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post #21 of 29
Sorry, wrong thread.
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I know someone who received a warning because of their messy house. They were given a certain period of time, a week I think, to clean it up. My boyfriend volunteered to help them clean and said they removed an entire dumpster of actual trash. Not clutter, trash. That made me feel a lot better about the level of mess in my house.
post #23 of 29
there are bad SWs but what i meant is that CPS in general is not out to get you but they do depend on the reliability of their SWs. if no one reports bad SWs they will never know about the problem and cannot address it. everyone always tells you to document and that includes the social workers behavior... if SWs like the ones some of you have mentioned are not reported and the behavior isnt dealt with it makes it that much harder for people to trust the good social workers.
post #24 of 29
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there are bad SWs but what i meant is that CPS in general is not out to get you but they do depend on the reliability of their SWs. if no one reports bad SWs they will never know about the problem and cannot address it. everyone always tells you to document and that includes the social workers behavior... if SWs like the ones some of you have mentioned are not reported and the behavior isnt dealt with it makes it that much harder for people to trust the good social workers.
I did report it to people WAY above my worker`s supervisior and also to her supervisior and NOTHING ever came of those complaints that I made. No one cared that I was being railroaded, NO ONE. ANd that is why I have such a shitty attitude about CPS and SW in general. Because my family was torn apart because of them. I`m ashamed to tell people my story because I fear they will judge me and call me a bad mom when I didn`t do anything wrong. And I am scared to death to get close to my youngest one because I`m scared they are just gonna continue to take him and give him back so that I may never get a good bond with him
post #25 of 29
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I did report it to people WAY above my worker`s supervisior and also to her supervisior and NOTHING ever came of those complaints that I made. No one cared that I was being railroaded, NO ONE. ANd that is why I have such a shitty attitude about CPS and SW in general. Because my family was torn apart because of them. I`m ashamed to tell people my story because I fear they will judge me and call me a bad mom when I didn`t do anything wrong. And I am scared to death to get close to my youngest one because I`m scared they are just gonna continue to take him and give him back so that I may never get a good bond with him
Your getting him back soon right? I cant wait for you, I pray everything works out!

Complaining makes everyone mad. When dealing with someone who can take away your kids for dishes in the sink, who is goign to complain? Honestly who? Not I.

The first time I was called on I fought. They came to our house and were not let in numerous times. Finally, we let them in, and video taped the visit. This is something I suggest. VIdeo tape it. The sw called his supervisor and she said we couldnt. WE CANT? Right, I did anyway. It is MY house, I can VIDEO TAPE ANYWHERE I WANT ! So I did, that way, there is NO exaggeration on what it looks like. There is proof!

Second time I let her in. I had so much stress the first time and I just wanted it to be done and over with. It was over with quickly and nearly painlessly, but it is still stressful to know you have this record.

I am a freak about my house now. It is always clean. Maybe 5 minutes of work to do. Toys mostly. I wash dishes as I use them by hand, no loading the dishwasher that just sits there unused. I sweep 4-6 times a day. I cant help it, I am scared.
post #26 of 29
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Your getting him back soon right? I cant wait for you, I pray everything works out!

Complaining makes everyone mad. When dealing with someone who can take away your kids for dishes in the sink, who is goign to complain? Honestly who? Not I.

The first time I was called on I fought. They came to our house and were not let in numerous times. Finally, we let them in, and video taped the visit. This is something I suggest. VIdeo tape it. The sw called his supervisor and she said we couldnt. WE CANT? Right, I did anyway. It is MY house, I can VIDEO TAPE ANYWHERE I WANT ! So I did, that way, there is NO exaggeration on what it looks like. There is proof!

Second time I let her in. I had so much stress the first time and I just wanted it to be done and over with. It was over with quickly and nearly painlessly, but it is still stressful to know you have this record.

I am a freak about my house now. It is always clean. Maybe 5 minutes of work to do. Toys mostly. I wash dishes as I use them by hand, no loading the dishwasher that just sits there unused. I sweep 4-6 times a day. I cant help it, I am scared.
Yup as of right now its 2:00 am my time almost and I have 4 days but that doesn't stop them from continuing to check on me numerous times for the next 3-6 months. And there is nothing I can do about it because they need to know he's safe and I have to comply or my baby will get taken again plain and simple. So yeah I'd say my feelings about everything is warrented and all because of a province that doesn't care if meds make you crazy they just want you on them... So what's not good for you is good in there books. BUNK if you ask me.
post #27 of 29
=][QUOTE=Lovemy3babies;13686701]Y The sw called his supervisor and she said we couldnt. WE CANT? Right, I did anyway. It is MY house, I can VIDEO TAPE ANYWHERE I WANT ! So I did, that way, there is NO exaggeration on what it looks like. There is proof!
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WTH? of course you can video tape!! they document things too! they shouldnt be s aying or doing anything they would not want a judge to see. aand it will also serve as proof for you if they lie or exagerate or are in any waY innapropriate. the sw should have nothing to hide.
post #28 of 29

As a CSP Social Worker are typical motto is " dirt doesn't hurt"   There is a difference between messy and unsanitary.  The standard should always be less about mess and about safety.  Things i look for when i am in homes, Are there clear fire exits and pathways to exits, smoke detectors and fire alarms? Are they working? Is there urine or feces on the floor? If children are crawling and mobile: are things out of reach, are there small objects that can be chocking hazards? Is there a hazard free area for tummy time?  Bags of trash, flies?, what does the cat box look like?  Does the home smell of urine? Mold int he home, exposed wiring, are sockets covered, other physical structural hazards? Thing like that.  If they do then what is the plan to create safety for the children?  

But every state is different

post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
WTH? of course you can video tape!! they document things too! they shouldnt be s aying or doing anything they would not want a judge to see. aand it will also serve as proof for you if they lie or exagerate or are in any waY innapropriate. the sw should have nothing to hide.

When my mother was a foster parent, social services repeatedly lied to her. It's not uncommon at all for people to tell lies to be able to get their way. If they can get people to turn off the camera, then they don't have that evidence against them.

 

I'd look up the laws on what counts as evidence (in some states, only one party has to know that you're being filmed) and consider setting up baby monitors and such around the house to film the visit.

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i know i have said this before and its not a popular opinion but CPS is not out to get you. they dont want to take kids from their parents. they have to many children as it is they arent looking for more. its not like they get a bonus for every child they remove from a home. a lot of the time they help families who need their help but dont want it. the hours are long, the pay sucks, and people treat them like crap. not to mention it is probably one of the most emotionally draining jobs you could have. i am not saying there are no bad social workers i just cant imagine how anyone who didnt genuinly want to help people would last a week as a social worker.

I don't know about social workers, but there are states that DO get extra federal money for each child in foster care. In at least one state, they're taking Native American children for no reason because the federal government gives  them extra money for each Native child in foster care. In the first article I read about it, a social worker showed up, claimed the mother was going to be arrested for something, and demanded the children. Police never showed up for the woman, and, at the time of the article, she was still fighting to get her children back. "But, state records show there's another powerful force at work — money. The federal government sends the state thousands of dollars for every child it takes.", "Department officials told her, "It's good, you are doing a good job for taking more kids""

 

If social workers are getting pressured by their bosses to take children from their homes, then either they do- or their boss finds a new social worker. The second that putting children in foster care became a way for states to make money, it was no longer about keeping families together or kids safe.

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