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Feedng issues with new puppy...advice needed

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We have a 11 week old Boston Terrier, and have had her for about 2 weeks now. I am wondering if a change in our approach to feeding her is needed based on some behaviours we are seeing.

We set her food bowl down, and previously she just ate and wolfed it down just like that. On advice of some books we have read, we (kids and everyone in the family) would pet her, place more kibble in the bowl with our hand (3-4 times over the course of her feed, she would maybe get a third of her feeding total this way at the most), or another type of treat, to make her more comfortable with people around her bowl. She always sits just prior to getting the bowl, and does not get it until she shows signs of being calm/submissive (like not looking like she is raring to jump up again, trembling with excitement, etc)

We never used to have problems at all until about 4-5 days ago. She seems really distracted while eating, almost as if she expects us to be right there and feed her partly by hand, and if I go away to the kitchen (even if it is in eyesight of her) she follows us and is bouncing all over the place, same thing with placing her bowl in the kitchen where I am. I don't have time to just sit with her until she is finished eating! We have tried to feed her in the kennel with the door closed, but that is not successful either....she won't finish it and is "looking" for us. We have also tried setting timer for 10 min and taking the food to encourage her not to dwaddle, (I read it would get them to realize they need to eat and get it over with) but that isn't working either.

Another thing that concerns me is I think she is becoming a bit "aggressive" for lack of a better word, about her food. Not outright growling or baring teeth, but things like quickly turning and reaching her head back toward our hand if we pet her with mouth open but never any skin contact/growling so far (and that is not coming at her quickly in surprise, I have already sat there a bit and she knows I am there), or placing her paw up on my hand/arm, getting right into the bowl, and looking like she is trying to push me away, or like yesterday, when I just placed my hand on the floor curved around her bowl or held it in my hand for her....she jumped at me a bit, looking like she wanted my hand out of there. I have taken her food and stood up when this happens, asked her to sit, and when she is submissive looking again giving her her food back and praised her.

Any advice on this one? I am not sure if what I am doing (taking food away) is going to make her more possessive in the long run, but I don't want to "give in" to her either? Of if I overdid this well meaning advice of entering her bowl's space and now she expects me to hand feed her? And, I don't know if just shutting her in her kennel is the answer...I don't want her getting territorial about her food in there either.

As far as the rest of her behaviour, she sits when requested and takes a piece of kibble nicely, and generally is a calm dog, sits at the door before we let her in the house, when playing she is getting good at dropping a toy when requested even when a treat is not there to entice her to "trade", and we do things like getting her to sit before we get down to her level and play with her, and if she jumps up on us when we are down there we walk away until she calms. She is not possessive about toys that we can see, does not show fear/aggression at us reaching in her kennel, etc. Basically SIT is the command she understands the best right now and we use it to make her "earn" her food, interaction with us, etc. It's just I think I am noticing some "dominance" I think in the food area (plus the distractability, which is decreasing her intake) and I would like to nip it in the bud, pardon the pun LOL!

Any advice from you more seasoned puppy moms would be appreciated!
post #2 of 9
It sounds like she is now expecting stuff form your hands. I like that you are trying to help her be relaxed around her bowl. What I might do instead is drive by treating-walk by her, toss a treat in the bowl and immediately leave. See if that can break the response.

You don't need to do food bowl exercises all the time to get results. Have you checked out My Smart Puppy? It is an excellent book for new puppies and their owners. I highly recommend it.
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Originally Posted by betsyj View Post
It sounds like she is now expecting stuff form your hands. I like that you are trying to help her be relaxed around her bowl. What I might do instead is drive by treating-walk by her, toss a treat in the bowl and immediately leave. See if that can break the response.

You don't need to do food bowl exercises all the time to get results. Have you checked out My Smart Puppy? It is an excellent book for new puppies and their owners. I highly recommend it.
The immediately leaving is not working, she just follows me back into the kitchen (she's usually gated here with me when out of her kennel and I am cooking/cleaning up). She;ll eat if I return to her bowl, give her a bit out of my hand. Once she gets her face back into the bowl I then sneak away once she is going at it, then almost immediately (less than 30 sec) she comes back to find me.

Today, took her bowl in kitchen where I was...again was horribly distracted, I scattered some of her food on floor by her bowl, she ate some. We tried to feed her shut in kennel, within eyesight of us, allowing her 20min to eat, and she still ate little.

The "aggressive" signs I talked about earlier are settling a bit. However, it's the giving her stuff out of hand I am exasperated about now...uggh! I have created a monster just by following some well meaning advice. Damn that Ian Dunbar book! :

For the record, she doesn't seem to have too much separation anxiety otherwise. This behavior seems to center around food time only.

Any other words of wisdom?
post #4 of 9
Put the food bowl down and walk away. Eventually she will eat it, she is not going to starve herself to death. Don't keep returning to it, don't move the bowl closer to where you are.
post #5 of 9
Bostons are notorious for separation anxiety. They adore their people and want to follow you everywhere.

She won't starve. You can feed her in the crate? Put her food down in the crate and close the door and leave her there for 15 minutes. If the food isn't gone, it goes up, and she can wait till next time. Eventually, she'll eat.

I don't like free feeding because the dogs will do just what she is doing... the food is on the ground, it will be there later, and I would rather be with mom! If you make her understand that it will only be there for a little while, she'll eat! I like feeding in the crate because it helps with house training. Dogs don't like to eliminate where they eat.
post #6 of 9
You could try putting something really yummy over it like chicken broth or the like and then walking away. I bet she'll eat it all by herself very quickly then.
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Originally Posted by SevenVeils View Post
Put the food bowl down and walk away. Eventually she will eat it, she is not going to starve herself to death. Don't keep returning to it, don't move the bowl closer to where you are.
Yep, I would first do this - I promise she won't starve

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Originally Posted by betsyj View Post
What I might do instead is drive by treating-walk by her, toss a treat in the bowl and immediately leave. See if that can break the response.

You don't need to do food bowl exercises all the time to get results. Have you checked out My Smart Puppy? It is an excellent book for new puppies and their owners. I highly recommend it.
Then once she's eating I would do this extensively if you think she has any food aggression issues at all. We did the well-meaning "oh look, I'm in your food all the time" with one dog and he's the one dog that developed food guarding issues.

Once we started treating when we walked by he realized "Oh hey, people near my bowl means really good things happen - they're not going to harass me, there's nothing to worry about," and went back to his relaxed self.
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Originally Posted by DogMomforNow View Post
Yep, I would first do this - I promise she won't starve

Once we started treating when we walked by he realized "Oh hey, people near my bowl means really good things happen - they're not going to harass me, there's nothing to worry about," and went back to his relaxed self.

: and I posted this in another thread, but it breaks down how to accomplish this really easily.
help for object guarding

also, the most important thing is to be consistent. I think once the dog can assume but the feeding/eating drill is they will take to it much better. Find what works for your schedule and stick to it exactly. At least until some type of structure is formed. I do evening feedings and my husband does morning feedings. I made sure we did everything the same form the beginning and it really helped. Good luck!
post #9 of 9
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Thanks everyone. We have taken to putting her in her kennel for her feeds, sometimes like this morning she eats very little especially if she can't see me, but the next meal she will eat alot more, so slowly getting better.
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