Jenny McCarthy on The Doctors

[Turquesa]

Apologies if this has already been posted. I didn't catch the recent episode of The Doctors. But here's some snippets:

http://www.thedoctorstv.com/main/show_page/198

I thought it was cheap the way the ER doc (his name escapes me--the cute one ) played the card of "Hey man, you're hurting my feelings!" That was a cop-out to avoid addressing the valid concerns about how under-studied vaccines truly are.

Did anyone catch the whole show? Impressions?

[WaitingForKiddos]

I can't stand that show so I didn't see it. It's too bad there's a Sears on it.

[avendesora]

I got as far as "you're hurting my feelings" too. The dr. started yelling at Hadley for attacking him as an individual, when he totally hadn't. Ugh, turned it off.

[xmasbaby7]

Originally Posted by avendesora

I got as far as "you're hurting my feelings" too. The dr. started yelling at Hadley for attacking him as an individual, when he totally hadn't. Ugh, turned it off.

He was much more suited to the Bachelor. That guy is NOT very bright.

[Jadzia]

Handley OWNED that whiny immature doctor, who obviously hadn't read any of the studies he was claiming "proved" that "vaccines" don't cause autism. When Handley pointed out that only MMR and thimerosol had been studied, his only response was to have a temper tantrum. He sounded like a child. I would never go to him for medical treatment.

If I didn't know otherwise, I would have thought that Handley was the reasonable medical expert expert and the doctor was the so-called crazy lunatic.

It is ironic how the so-called pro-science people sound less informed than the parents who have actually researched the issue.

[Funny Face]

Originally Posted by Jadzia

It is ironic how the so-called pro-science people sound less informed than the parents who have actually researched the issue.

I didn't see this because that show is so lame but ITA with the above statement.

[Funny Face]

Also, how did Dr. Sears respond? I'd be most interested to hear that.

[brendaziz]

OH the doc was SO whiny and annoying I wanted to punch him!

BUT i thought the episode was actually GREAT. My grandma called my mom and said "they're talking about vaccines on the doctors- and it seems like lots of them on OUR side" :-)

The AAP refused to be there- but sent a statement saying among ohter things "there have been many studies that show that vaccines do NOT cause autism"

So the guy said "well that's flat out not true- there have been no such studies that look at all vaccines, or the current schedule, or various components in them...."

and the DOCTOR on the doctors said "well I think that the only thing we can be sure that we know is that we don't know what causes or doesn't cause autism" or something to that affect. I can't remember the exact wording.

But i thought that was an AWESOME thing to admit! DUH we DON'T have any 100% this is what causes autism or doesn't. If anyone did there would BE no discussion on the matter.

But i was VERY impressed w/ that acknowledgment.

[sunnymw]

Actually, it was Jenny McCarthy and the GR guy that refused to have the AAP there because the show is edited, not live, meaning they'd get edited out. They said they would debate with the AAP anytime as long as it was an uncut, live interview. (I DVRd it because DH wanted to watch).

I'll just say the same thing I told DH when giving him the run-down.
Generation rescue guy: "facts facts facts, study study study"
ER guy: "Woe is me, you're making me mad"

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The Doctors did end up calming down and it ended on a good note. I was very impressed. What sticks with me most is when the co-author was talking about "When it's YOUR kid". Because that's the thing. I have a friend whose 7yo son is autistic due to the MMR, period. It doesn't matter what any study says, it doesn't matter that vaccines only damage "a small percentage"--to her, that percentage is 100%.

[star*mora]

am glad there were valid points actually "allowed" to air. and yeah the er doctor comes across as incredibly uneducated.

but like many pp, i stopped watching that show completely - for me it was when dr. lisa was advocating that male babies should be circumcised. yuck!

[aydensmama]

Had to hit the fast forward on DVR for the dramatic whiney doctor. I could of predicted what was being said.

I let DH watch it later, and I went and cleaned up in the other room...Dh said when it was over "that doctor looks stupid"...interesting observation. With us, DH is as informed as he needs to be. I do research and he trusts me, so I was happy to share that show with him.

I was bummed at Jenny when she cursed about the AAP, while I totally agree with her, I wish the emotions had beem left out so she didn't possibly appear to mainstream mothers as crazy. Just a thought...not my thoughts but trying to see it from what the other side would of thought.

And my heart ached for the kiddos and families that asked questions with the adorable children with them!!!!

[amnesiac]

Moving to tv.

[BRmama]

I saw the whole thing and I thought that ER doctor even though cute , was so annoying as well. I mean c'mon it's a debate and he didn't know how to defend his argument so he resorted to doing a tantrum like a two year old. But yeah it did end on a good note.

Originally Posted by Funny Face

Also, how did Dr. Sears respond? I'd be most interested to hear that.

I don't remember the words to be exact, but when the ER doctor was throwing his tantrum he put dr. Sears in the middle of it by basically saying that Handley was being rude to both of them. Dr. Sears didn't do anything, he just sat there and agreed . Funny thing, my dh saw it as well and also pointed out that the ER doctor was being stupid lol.

[Mrs-Mama]

I was disappointed that Dr Sears seemed as pro-vax as he did. When Jenny McCarthy pointed out that the number of shots has tripled in the last twenty years, he said that the number of hospitalizations due to VPDs has dramatically increased and he loves that he doesn't have to watch children die of VPDs anymore. I have Sears' The Vaccine Book, and in it he seems much more skeptical of vaccines.

[lyno]

The sears book was written by William Sears, not Jim sears, though

[2bluefish]

The Vaccine Book was written by Robert Sears. I guess there are 2 sons that are doctors. I've been confused on that too - I thought Jim was the guy that wrote the book, but I just checked and no he's not.

I didn't get to see the episode, but it sounds like the preview told the story pretty well.

The doctors are silly sometimes, but I generally like it better than Oprah (we have rabbit ears so I don't have much selection). Travis can be somewhat open minded about stuff which surprises me really. Maybe not on this issue, but I've heard him say stuff that surprised me in it's common sense.

[Mrs-Mama]

Oh, thanks for setting me straight! I've been confused all along!

[clutterbug]

Re: the Sears brothers...did anyone else catch the Jenny McCarthy's co-author (a doctor, I forget his name) say to Dr. Sears "I see these kids, just like your brother does" or something like that? I was like, "SCORE!"

I generally like Dr. Jim Sears - I generaly find him pretty open minded. He certainly isn't anti-vax but he's not totally mainstream either. Which I guess agrees with my own take on it, so that might be why I like him. As an OT aside, I am still on a high from the other day, when he made it very clear that moms with/concerned about swine flu (or any flu) can and absolutely should breastfeed their babies cause it's the best thing they can do for them (after Dr. Lisa kid of avoided the question and talked about pregnant women and how risky it was). So maybe he can do no wrong in my mind right now

I did think it was dumb that Sears didn't step in when Stork had his temper tantrum, but it was an uncomfortable moment for everyone - you could see on Jenny's face that she was biting her tongue big time. I think everyone just wanted it to be over

I actually loved all of Jenny's co-author's points so much, I think I am going to look into getting the book.

[medusaatemydog]

GO JENNY!!!:

[CHoney]

I haven't watched that show before, but I saw someone mention what it would be about on MDC so I taped it, and boy was it good! I was shocked that Jenny McCarthy and the guest Doctors were able to present the facts on tv without being censored. I thought their points and arguments came across so clear and concise they were hard to ignore.

It's too bad that ER Doctor had a hissy fit, but you could tell he didn't have any information to back up his argument.

I really liked their response to the quote the AAP said where vaccines have been studied and they don't cause autism...something like "they've studied only one ingredient in 2 shots!"

I wish they could do another show and talk about environmental toxins and how to get rid of them.