Poll on vaccinations for the parenting forum - Page 7

[ChristSavesAll]

Originally Posted by mammal_mama

Oops! I just accidentally clicked on the first option -- "We fully vaccinate" -- but we actually stopped vaxing after our oldest received her 4 month shots, because of things we'd begun learning about the potential harmfulness of vaccines, and we started to believe the potential harm outweighed the potential benefits. So I think the real answer is that we don't vaccinate at all, even though we had started out vaxing, because we quit after that point, and our youngest has not had any at all.

Okay, now I'm off to read the thread -- just wanted to let you know I flubbed up and skewed the results -- I'm not sure if there's a way to fix it, either. I'm sorry!

Me too, I hit other cause I didn't see the option to not vax until the poll results popped up... sorry about that.

We don't vax, my son got shots at two months : and I never returned because I saw something on a tv show about it causing autism 5 years ago, I'm so glad that I followed my instinct, I didn't start researching it til my nephew had a bad adverse reaction (he had partial facial paralysis as well as ADD, OCD and severe aggression). Then I was horrified at the information I uncovered.

[Snuzzmom]

Originally Posted by Super Glue Mommy

For those of us who don't vaccinate we have to worry about the diseases changing and becoming more dangerous as they evolve to resist these vaccines. What do we do when this happens and we are faced with a new, scarier, unknown disease?

Hey there... I started a new thread about this in the main vax section. I'm looking for documentation about this but I'm not finding much. Could you please share what you've found (or just direct me to the source)?

Thank you!

[GoBecGo]

Surely if the diseases some of us have vaccinated against mutate EVERYONE hs to worry about it, not just those who didn't vax, because the vaccines won't be effective then either. So if there is one day a MegaMeasles, potentially everyone would get it, whether vaccinated against normal measles or not.

And if there was a variety of measles (or any other disease) which couldn't be vaccinated against ten we would all have to risk our kid getting it, just as eveyone did before there was any vaccine and those who choose not to vax do now. There are new diseases all the time. Look at swine flu - that didn't come about because of vaccines, it came about because diseases, like all life on this planet, do whatever it takes to survive, compete, succeed.

[Marnica]

My ds is 1. He has not recieved any vaxes. I plan on delaying indefinitly (until at least 2) and then I will reassess his risks at that time. The only vax I will consider really is HIB but only after 15 months (since he would only need 1 dose) and only after I stop BF. Also Polio IF I ever travel to a country where it is endemic, If not then I wouldn't do it.

[MissRubyandKen]

Originally Posted by GoBecGo

Surely if the diseases some of us have vaccinated against mutate EVERYONE hs to worry about it, not just those who didn't vax, because the vaccines won't be effective then either. So if there is one day a MegaMeasles, potentially everyone would get it, whether vaccinated against normal measles or not.

And if there was a variety of measles (or any other disease) which couldn't be vaccinated against ten we would all have to risk our kid getting it, just as eveyone did before there was any vaccine and those who choose not to vax do now. There are new diseases all the time. Look at swine flu - that didn't come about because of vaccines, it came about because diseases, like all life on this planet, do whatever it takes to survive, compete, succeed.

The vaccines swine and birds are being given sometimes do effect the disease evolution. And yes it is possible that a measles mutation could be a risk to the vaccinated as well as the not, that isn't really the point so much as if it will be the vaccinating that will cause it.

[ChristSavesAll]

Originally Posted by GoBecGo

Look at swine flu - that didn't come about because of vaccines, it came about because diseases, like all life on this planet, do whatever it takes to survive, compete, succeed.

Actually I believe the "swine flu" was created in a lab and released just to scare more people into vaxing so they can rake in more money... http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...Swine-Flu.aspx
I also feel they released the measles that broke out about 9 months ago to give the pro-vax side ammunition, since they kept blaming the non vax'd kids for the outbreak...

[PaigeC]

I didn't read all the replies but I scanned a bunch! I voted no vax.

I think there is a misconception that non-vaxers all make their decision based on risk of vaccine available disease vs. vaccine reaction. I know some people who decide this way. I do not. Fear of vaxs is not what makes me not vax. I think the whole concept of artificial immunity is a fallacy with huge negative consequences for the whole of humanity. Kind of a "if it ain't broken don't fix it" type thing. I'm not injecting my healthy kid with *their* experiment.

That being said - my most vehement cry is for freedom of choice. The day that we start forcing medical treatment on innocent people then how can we say we live in a free society?

[mommy2jonah]

We do not vaccinate.
I feel the body was made to withstand these diseases and I don't want to inject my child with something that could alter him.
I feel the vaccine industry is all about money and not the safety of the vaccines. I was thinking about this earlier and came to the conclusion if cigarette companies said cigarettes are good for you, I would not believe them, but we let the vaccine companies do this exact thing. hhhmmmm

[MissRubyandKen]

Originally Posted by GoBecGo

REALLY!? In the UK (or my experience here anyway) they definitely won't do that and in fact i have had DD vaxed a week or 2 off schedule on 2 occasions because she'd been ill 4-7 days BEFORE the original vaccine was due (they ask "has she been ill in the last 7 days?").

Yes, for sure most peds do in the US. Most doctors look up the vaccine record and ask are they up to date no matter what the visit is for. The CDC urges doctors to not miss any chance to vaccinate and says vaccines are not contraindicated for an ill child.