What was also funny was, that when they had a guest on asking Dr. Lisa how to have a better outcome having her second baby, i.e., what techniques to use for natural labor, etc., she really didn't have an answer besides talk to the anesthesiologist in case she changes her mind about another epi (she had a bad experience with her first).
However, Ricki and Abby gave her really good advice, such as hiring a doula, laboring at home, using water, not laying in bed, walking around or bouncing, etc. She seemed really responsive to it as well.
Also, they gave their audiences copies of Ricki's and Abby's new book!
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