Aluminum and vaccines (additional ? about fevers)

[rileyscoutmom]

Posted earlier and was just reading the stickied Prevnar thread . . .

My dd has had the Hepb at birth (can you really consent to something after giving birth? I think not) and the prevnar vaccine . . .

I am interested in knowing specifically what you can do to decrease the amount of aluminum in a 6 month old baby.

Also, what can I do to build immunity naturally? What about this Th2 skewing thing - how do you know and can you fix it?

Also, sort of OT, but in reading a lot of past threads someone mentions often the importance of fevers. How high of a fever before you intervene? CAn't fevers be dangerous? Tell me more about this subject please . . .

Karen

[Marnica]

Welll you are asking for alot of info....Ill do my best!

I am interested in knowing specifically what you can do to decrease the amount of aluminum in a 6 month old baby.

This is something that can only be found out and addressed by a professional. You would have to get a heavy metal test and go from there. I would consult a ND who has experience in detoxing. Your DD is still quite young, I don't think anybody will detox an infant at this age. You may have to wait until she is a bit older.

Also, what can I do to build immunity naturally? What about this Th2 skewing thing - how do you know and can you fix it?

The skewing of the immune system occurs with repeated vaccination because the "disease" is introduced to the body in a way that is not found in nature and it does not go through the usual route of the immune system (ie the gastrointestional route). Read this to understand what happens when you vaccinate
http://www.compwellness.net/mp/How%2...ons%20Work.pdf

as for building immunity naturall, focus on developing a robust immune system
clean water, organic foods, low to no exposure to toxic chemicals, fresh air, sunshine, a few good supplements. The only way to have "natural" immunity to infectious diseases is to have had them.

Also, sort of OT, but in reading a lot of past threads someone mentions often the importance of fevers. How high of a fever before you intervene? CAn't fevers be dangerous? Tell me more about this subject please

Fevers are the body's way of addressing illness. It is a GOOD sign when a fever is present. It is a signal that the immune system is working hard to eliminate the pathogen. To interefere with this can have serious consequences. Fevers can be as high as 105 degrees in a small child without any issues. The risk of febrile seizure (which are usually harmless but scary) is when the tempurature itself rises too quickly. It is not about the number, but about how fast the tempurature changes. Children that are left alone and not given fever reducers tend to heal more quickly from illneses

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by rileyscoutmom

I am interested in knowing specifically what you can do to decrease the amount of aluminum in a 6 month old baby.

I would not do anything but avoid all further vaccines and contact with aluminum which I believe can be present in children's cough meds, in antibiotics and of course in all canned things.

Also, what can I do to build immunity naturally?

Building immunity naturally can only be done by the child by coming in contact with infections and being allowed to fight them off naturally. That is the only way we humans build immunity. You can support the effort by feeing the child healthy and giving a loving home life.

Also, sort of OT, but in reading a lot of past threads someone mentions often the importance of fevers. How high of a fever before you intervene? CAn't fevers be dangerous? Tell me more about this subject please . . .

Dr. Mendelsohn in his book How to Raise a healthy child in spite of your doctor says he has never seen a fever go above 105 and that is not worrisome in a child. My 3 yo. grandson runs high fevers- the highest we have seen was 104.6 and down to 101 for six consecutive days. We did not interfere. After that the fever waned and he recuperated quickly.

In the olden days people know when a child had a fever you let the child sleep and did not bother feeing the child unless the child asked for food. Most of the time a child will not want to eat since that takes a lot of energy and the body is working hard to rid itself of the infection. That process creates the fever.

The fever will go up and stay up there for a few hours. Most of the time the child will sleep thought that stage. Then the fever comes down, that's when the child wakes up and asks for something to drink. Within a few minutes the fever will go up again. And that it how it most often continues until the body has fought off the virus and built immunity.

A fevers is not a disease or a problem that needs to be treated. It is the body's assistance in times of sickness. Each infection requires it's own temperature to be cured and each child has the right mechanism to regulate his own fever. We should never interfere. It's the interference that is dangerous and causes other problems. Because if we artificially lower the fever, the infection will have free reign in the body until the child manages to rid itself of the fever reducing medicine and start to the healing process all over again, by creating a fever.

When my kids were growing up we didn't bother with a thermometer. We never worried about the fever.

I like this explanation - http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web6.html
http://www.vaccinationdebate.com/web6.html

[RhianaW14]

Once a fever gets too high, over I think 104, the body itself can begin to shut down.

If your baby is under 3 mos of age w/ a fever of almost 100.4, you want to call the Dr. because it can be a sign of an infection. Last thing that I'd want is brain damage in my infant for not reacting.

Same thing goes for an infant 6+ mos. If the fever is over 103, you call.

It all depends on how the baby is acting during the fever too. If he seems ok and is eating/drinking, etc.. then you are probably ok. If he's lethargic, not wanting to eat or drink, then he's not going to be strong enough to get better. You just need to play it by ear.

But yes, a fever is a way of telling the body that its time to make more white blood cells because something is up.

[Marnica]

Originally Posted by RhianaW14

Once a fever gets too high, over I think 104, the body itself can begin to shut down.

If your baby is under 3 mos of age w/ a fever of almost 100.4, you want to call the Dr. because it can be a sign of an infection. Last thing that I'd want is brain damage in my infant for not reacting.

Same thing goes for an infant 6+ mos. If the fever is over 103, you call.

It all depends on how the baby is acting during the fever too. If he seems ok and is eating/drinking, etc.. then you are probably ok. If he's lethargic, not wanting to eat or drink, then he's not going to be strong enough to get better. You just need to play it by ear.

But yes, a fever is a way of telling the body that its time to make more white blood cells because something is up.

Young children can get fevers up to 105 degrees without there being any harm done. The body will not produce a fever above 105 degress (unless it is from heatstroke or something like that) I agree that an infant's fever needs to be addressed immediately and that it is more about how the child is behaving than anything. My son had a high fever when he was 6 months old for 3 days. It got up to 104 at one point. I called the ped and since my son is unvaccinated hysteria ensued. I wished I had not called. I did not take him in and he was fine (He was cutting a tooth and I KNOW that's what it was even though I was told that this was cooincidental). I think if i had taken him in they would have run invasive tests merely because he is unvaccinated.