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post #201 of 356
Ah, I love MDC! I came here just now to search the archives for info on going without shampoo, and found this wonderful thread! I'm late to the party, but I'm soooo excited to be here...Now I'm excited to not-wash my hair the next time I get a chance to shower...
post #202 of 356

body hair

i found this thread while looking for discussions on body hair. i read one i think that made a reference to not shaving. i was wondering if anyone has any stories related to their armpit hair and their breastfeeding child. i did not until recently make a connection between the two and what they mean to the child. some background...i have shaved on and off since college...the last time i did it sort of as a bribe to get my boyfriend to stop eating chicken. so anyway, my husband and i have this ongoing joke whenever we want the other to do something they don't want to do...usually it goes like this..."i will if you shave". well sadie (she's 3) overheard this one day and started crying and shrieking about mommy not shaving because then i wouldn't be mommy anymore. i got her calmed down finally by explaining that we were just joking around...our kids are used to that usually. this made me remember how my first son reacted after i had shaved when he was still nursing...he reached up to hold the hair and it was gone...he was so surprised he just said..."you shaved it!" more background...i have severe "morning sickness" and after about 3 months of not bathing (the smell of water made me puke...everything made me puke...24/7 for months on end). anyway, so i would just finally get a shower and shave and also cut most of my hair off...it was just something i did. anyway, i was curious if there were any other moms who didn't shave and if their kids were somehow connected to that hair in any intimate way. thanks if you made it this long
post #203 of 356

ghassoul

I visited my local health food store and found something called ghassoul- some sort of soapy clay. Has anyone had experience with it? The package says it can be used as a shampoo.
post #204 of 356
my dd is only 13 mo, so it doesn't matter to her, but i don't shave anywhere, any time, for any one. :LOL



ETA- i think it is very liberating not to shave, and will be liberating for dd too as she experiences first hand that you don't have to get rid of body hair bc of some one else's expectations/dislike. No judgement here on anyone, just the way i think about it for me and mine.
post #205 of 356
ghassoul - I know what it is. DH likes to shave with it. I banned shaving cream many years ago and a substitute for him was a tough one. I'm only occasionally shave a few spots on my legs, so it was easy for me. Which gets me thinking that I'm kind of unfair. I gave up on the no poo but wouldn't buy shaving cream for him. And it took years to find something that he was really happy with.

Don't give up ja mama! You'll never get out of the carcinogenic detergent trap unless you suffer through this withdrawal period. I gave up before and I'm hoping you all will help me when I'm feeling discouraged this time. If the ACV rinse is what's getting to you, stop using it. If your hair is oily, why not try a soap like the Burt's bees bar to try to get it clean? When I tried this before, I discovered that my hair felt cleaner if I soaked it in the tub with clean water and sea salt after bathing. I was childless then but I worked a lot and having the time to do this was a problem. I think this greatly contributed to my giving up. How would your children handle a long bath with mommy? Or could someone else watch them while you soak in the tub? I think the sea salt in the tub softens the water to help get residue off of the hair. And just by being in it so much longer and having the hair spread out helps the sea salt to work. At least that's what I decided then. The purpose of the vinegar is really just to soften. Sea salt softens without the smell. Keep coming back here. If you don't like the sea salt, I'll pull out a bunch of books and we'll come up with other things for you to try.
post #206 of 356

nak

yes i have some of that-mines' called rhassoul- ready rhassoul. It works good but I need a vinegar rinse after because it seemed to make my hair real fly away. It is nice though. I love clay, clay packs and the like.
post #207 of 356
So today was my first no-poo day! (well i only wash every other day anyway...) So i put the honey on the dry dandruffy parts (just my hair line) and then near the end of my shower, I "washed" my hair with the BS mixture. I didn't do any conditioning, but when I got out of the shower, my hair was really tangled, so I sprayed it with a leave on conditioner. I will try the ACV later.
Akirasmama, should I put the rosemary in water and spritz it on, or should I apply directly to my scalp in the dry spots?
TIA!
post #208 of 356
Okay so last night I read through all ten pages here again, in one sitting. I've been following along but it was a good refresher. This morning when I got up my hair was so greasy, but I was prepared. I had the cornstarch up in our bathroom. I had so little faith (and time) that I had the shower started as I tried rubbing the corn starch on my greasy mess and then brushed it out over the tub. I was so astonished that it looked better (still feels greasy/stringy, but looks smooth) I clipped it off my face, so I won't have to touch it, and it can remain in it's looking good position all day. Hopefully. I did look like the boys when they got into the babypowder, white powdery hair. But it brushed out. So here we are at one more day. I am hoping I can make it to the store this weekend and find at least a backup shampoo that I won't feel bad about using. And a boar's bristle brush.
I need to have an alternative to sell dh on before i tell him I'm hoping to get rid of the shampoo. This will be a hard sell, I know in advance. He doesn't even have a crunchy spot on his skin, much less a crunchy bone in his body.

I'll get some sea salt also. It would be a good excuse for dh to watch the boys while I take a long bath. I love baths but haven't taken one in a long time. I'm in the deliberately slow process of weaning ds2 so I don't want him to see me bathing for a while.
post #209 of 356

Re: body hair

mine is more of a smell than hair thing. When my dd smells my armpit (I don't shave, or wear deoderant)she says, mmmm...mommy milk. LOL I try to tell her that is my armpit, but she doesn't believe me(she is almost 5).

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Originally posted by sssmommy
i found this thread while looking for discussions on body hair. i read one i think that made a reference to not shaving. i was wondering if anyone has any stories related to their armpit hair and their breastfeeding child. i did not until recently make a connection between the two and what they mean to the child. some background...i have shaved on and off since college...the last time i did it sort of as a bribe to get my boyfriend to stop eating chicken. so anyway, my husband and i have this ongoing joke whenever we want the other to do something they don't want to do...usually it goes like this..."i will if you shave". well sadie (she's 3) overheard this one day and started crying and shrieking about mommy not shaving because then i wouldn't be mommy anymore. i got her calmed down finally by explaining that we were just joking around...our kids are used to that usually. this made me remember how my first son reacted after i had shaved when he was still nursing...he reached up to hold the hair and it was gone...he was so surprised he just said..."you shaved it!" more background...i have severe "morning sickness" and after about 3 months of not bathing (the smell of water made me puke...everything made me puke...24/7 for months on end). anyway, so i would just finally get a shower and shave and also cut most of my hair off...it was just something i did. anyway, i was curious if there were any other moms who didn't shave and if their kids were somehow connected to that hair in any intimate way. thanks if you made it this long
post #210 of 356
Just done my 3rd wash without poo which makes it heading into week 4 I think. My dandruff has gone & my hair looks great.

We really need to start another thread or a no poo role call so we can see how everyone is doing where they are without having to wade thru 9 pages. What about a no poo sticky so it doesn't get lost I wish I'd discovered this truth years ago! :LOL
post #211 of 356

Re: Re: body hair

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Originally posted by mamamoo
mine is more of a smell than hair thing. When my dd smells my armpit (I don't shave, or wear deoderant)she says, mmmm...mommy milk. LOL I try to tell her that is my armpit, but she doesn't believe me(she is almost 5).
no no she is totally right. haven't you ever noticed that your sweat has a distinctively sweeter smell when you are lactating. my husband says he loves the smell too. i only use a deodorant when i know i'm going to be really nervous (like in a group setting) because i know i will be sweating more. but i quit using deodorant so long ago, i like a stone and sometimes tom's of maine. i love hearing the word "crunchy" on here. i'm so used to not knowing anyone as crunchy as i am....i am not alone! i only know two other moms who are intact, one moved to california and the other i only see once a month...(that's my personal joke, referring to "not shaving" in the same way we refer to our son being "intact" i.e. "not circumcised"...you know for all the same reasons) i'm so glad i finally logged onto the mothering website...i am really enjoying this.
post #212 of 356
I've been following this thread for awhile, but thought I couldn't live without my shampoo. But now I've decided to ditch it if I can find a good alternative. So forgive me if this has been asked before, I may have missed it. The problem is I have really oily hair. Like if I wash it in the morning it is greasy by nightfall. I have to wash it every day or it looks like an oil slick. However it is also really fine and prone to flyaways and static when I do wash it everyday. I also have to use conditioner to help get the tangles out. I tried the Burt's Bees shampoo bar and my regular conditioner. My hair is not oily, but it is lifeless and seems to have buildup on it. Any advice?

Thanks!
post #213 of 356

more on body hair

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Originally posted by Mona
i think it is very liberating not to shave, and will be liberating for dd too as she experiences first hand that you don't have to get rid of body hair bc of some one else's expectations/dislike. No judgement here on anyone, just the way i think about it for me and mine. [/B]
this is one of the main reasons i came back to not shaving...when i had sadie, after having 2 boys, i had more to think about. i want her to know that she doesn't have to, and so she will feel totally comfortable with it...unlike me...it took me awhile to get used to it, but now i'm getting used to even wearing a bathing suit and feeling more and more like i just don't care if the tourists stare (we live in a campground). speaking of which, we go to the pool in the summer...what can we do to decontaminate afterwards. does a shower really get rid of the chlorine...and with not shampooing anymore (yeah we've jumped on the bandwagon too...silas, my six year old, has dreads and i'm hoping this will help...anyway) so please don't say "just don't go to the pool"...this is not an option...my kids really look forward to it and so do i...it is the one thing that helps get me through my winter depression just thinking about our summertime rituals. well, i think i've gone on enough
post #214 of 356
OMG...I just started reading this thread. If you only knew the troubles we have with our son and shampoo, this could be a solution for him...
post #215 of 356

Re: more on body hair

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Originally posted by sssmommy
speaking of which, we go to the pool in the summer...what can we do to decontaminate afterwards. does a shower really get rid of the chlorine...and with not shampooing anymore (yeah we've jumped on the bandwagon too...silas, my six year old, has dreads and i'm hoping this will help...anyway) so please don't say "just don't go to the pool"...this is not an option...my kids really look forward to it and so do i...
Great question... I'm wondering the same myself, we spent a lot of time in a swimming pool (especially my son) during a week in Hawaii and I was nervous about all the toxins he was getting in his tiny body (and my pg body). Anybody???

BTW, I just got a Shampoo Bar in the mail today, I'm eager to try it!
post #216 of 356
Kind of along the same lines I was wondering what those of you who swim in the ocean are going to do to get the saltwater out??
post #217 of 356
I don't think a shower only would get rid of chlorine. It absorbs into the body through the skin. Assuming that you already have a shower filter filtering chlorine out of the shower water, this would help get rid of a lot of the daily chlorine. This would maybe allow you to justify the occasional pool visit, and maybe the pool wouldn't have as great of an impact. What about a large mega dose of vit c after swimming for an inside cleanse? Maybe try scrubbing the skin with a washcloth in the shower, or brushing the dry skin with a vegetable brush. I have been exposed to chemicals before where it took three washings/scrubbings with soap/washcloth to get the smell off, and I have even resorted to using bon ami on my skin to get perfume, etc. off of it. This is because my family members are highly sensitive to perfumes.

This no shampoo/deoderant concept is neat. I think I will try it myself and with the kids. My family is allergic to ACV so I may just use the BS & rosemary rinse or lemonjuice.

But PEE-EWW-to quit using deoderant Do you have to have a super pure diet for that to work?
post #218 of 356
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Originally posted by Bestbirths
But PEE-EWW-to quit using deoderant Do you have to have a super pure diet for that to work? [/B]
you know it really does make a difference when your diet is super clean. like when we are totally vegan, body odor just isn't a problem. and really even now that i don't have that super sweet smell like i did when i had newborn milk, i still don't find that i hate the way i smell. i think it all depends on how you look at what is natural. like hair is natural and body odor is natural. i mean it's really about pheremones (how is that spelled?). we all give off scents that are distinct and our very own. like i can't imagine anyone using that FDS product but tons of women do because of their natural body odor. we are so obsessed with what we smell like all over our bodies. like odor absorbing tampons and scented pads. my daughter at 3 discovered that she has a smell to her vagina, she sometimes tells me if she thinks it stinks, then i know it's time for a bath or just freshen her up but i always make sure to tell her that most of the time the smell is just fine and that is just the way her body smells and it is a good thing. one time she was on her potty, i guess she wasn't even two yet and she just came out and said "i love my 'gina" i doubled over laughing and congratulated her on achieving something most women never do. i could just go on and on, but i guess i already did...
post #219 of 356
I love MDC . I was skeptical but I did the BS rinse last night and wow!! I even skipped the ACV but I may try that next time since my hair has a bit more static to it after the BS than it did when I used 'poo. My hair wasn't dry right after washing it (dry as in dry and damaged looking) my scalp wasn't itchy and my hair was only damp for a short time instead of the 2-3 hours it used to take to dry, I wonder why that is?? My only guess is some shampoos are surfactants which is what they use to keep preemie baby lungs moist so that must keep the hair wet longer??

Wohoo for no poo!!! My kids hair looks gorgeous also, very shiny, no funky smell from crappy kids scented poos and not as many tangles! I am trying to convince dh to switch, he has dry scalp and almost like pimples or sores on his scalp, I think he is allergic to SLS, the shaving cream that broke out his face had SLS in it also hmm

to you all for helping us convert!!
post #220 of 356
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Originally posted by Oceansummer
Kind of along the same lines I was wondering what those of you who swim in the ocean are going to do to get the saltwater out??
Saltwater is actually good for your skin. That's the reason there are so many spas by the ocean and why they have pools filled with sea water. Also why they bottle and sell that foam that is created when the waves break on the rocks. It's the other stuff in the sea water that isn't always good for your skin. Gets filtered out so it isn't in the spas pools. I use a scrub that I make of corn meal and cross cut oatmeal to get sludge off when we have gotten in it.

merrick - I have oily hair. I've thought for many years now that the reason it is oily is from the constant shampooing, starting out when I was just a baby. That perhaps the detergent actually causes the reaction of the overactive oil glands. I've asked lots of older people what women with oily hair would do back when they only had their hair washed at the beauty parlor once a week. And I've never found someone who seemed to recall someone with oily hair. And then I then I also think of my grandmother. I know that the oily hair has to come from her because of the descendents who have oily hair. But her hair never looked oily. And her hair was only touched once a week and she slept with a cap on her head at night to keep it from getting messed up. I think if I can just manage to get through this horrid period, the greasiness will work itself out.
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