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OK, what could be the cause of the eczema?! UPDATE!

post #1 of 13
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My 2.5 year old dtr has been dealing with eczema on her leg for months, and she also has spots on her arms, torso, and back.

Poor thing, the one spot on her upper leg is an open sore. I have used california baby lotion, candendula, etc... Nothing helps. It hurts her so bad. I have taken several pictures of her body to show these allerigists, professionals, and they feel bad about how bad her eczema can become, but no one can help me fix it.

I have done some allergy testing, scratch IgE testing, MSA, and autonomic response testing (ART). ART uses accupressure points and corroborated the findings from the MSA test, which were issues with wheat, gluten, and dairy. Soy came up with the ART.

The scratch test showed NOTHING! All was negative. What a bunch of whoey!

SOOOOO, my dtr has not been eating most of these things since she was a year old, and since the ART findings last month, we have cut out soy. SHE STILL HAS ECZEMA! It has been unchanged. What in the world is going on. My family practice doctor mentioned something about too much staph bacteria build-up on the skin. I don't know what that means.

The one thing that did come up on the ART was mold. Could mold cause rashes? What if the eczema isn't food related. How can I find out what it is if it's not food related? We have spent thousands of dollars to try and find answers. We also have an almost 10 month old with very similar issues. She barely eats any solids because she becomes so affected by the foods I EAT that I'm nervous for her to eat on her own. I have cut out all the foods mentioned above as well.

Thank you.



UPDATE*****
I wanted to update that my dtr is finally in the clear! Thank God. We did P-N testing and was SO informative. She came up positive for corn, rice, and yeast, in addition to wheat, gluten, soy, and cow milk.

She was negative in several others, which included eggs and nightshades. Whew!

Once we eliminated all the trigger foods and moved to 100% organic fruits and veggies, she is 100% clear. She went from almost not sleeping for one year due to the itching/bleeding and crying to a healthy body. Just short of a miracle!

Wanted to update with good news!
post #2 of 13
I'm sorry they are having so much trouble with the eczema DS's eczema turned out to be from wheat.
There could be some other food that is NOT in the top 8 that's causing the problem. Others will have suggestions, I would also suggest checking the book Digestive Wellness.
Perhaps also consult with a naturopath and/or homeopathic practitioner?

My understanding is that the skin prick/scratch RAST tests are for true allergy reactions. I believe eczema is a delayed reaction from a sensitivity or intolerance, not a true allergy (like anaphylictic allergy). so that may be why the scratch tests showed nothing.
Digestive Wellness talks a lot about these things.
post #3 of 13
egg and corn seem to be big eczema triggers (and eczema can be food intolerance or allergy so you wouldn't necessarily figure it out by a SPT).
post #4 of 13
Sounds like an IgG intolerance. You could do testing (ALCAT or ELISA), but nothing is 100% accurate. I would probably do an elimination diet of the top 8 allergens plus corn and sesame, which are numbers 9 and 10. (That includes wheat, eggs, dairy, soy, nuts, treenuts, fish, shellfish.) My dd's big eczema triggers are dairy and corn. My ds's big eczema triggers are dairy and wheat. They also have lesser reactions to other foods, including fruits with high salicylates, which you may want to explore if you don't get anywhere with the ED.
post #5 of 13
i agree, corn is a big eczema trigger. my son has a corn allergy and eczema is his biggest symptom. i know for certain california baby uses corn and most lotions i am aware of have corn or a possible derivative.
corn=evil!
post #6 of 13
From your post it isn't clear, are you sure you have removed every.last.drop of the suspected allergens from the diet?

I'd remove all wheat and all gluten, soy, dairy and corn from her diet, and give it a good 3 weeks, and see if at that point you start to see an improvement. There are many, many hidden sources of wheat/gluten and corn.

I've been there. My dd didn't clear up until 2 weeks before her 1st bday. Now we are off:
all source of gluten
dairy
soy
corn
eggs
nightshade: potato, tomato, peppers, paprika, eggplant
peas

Good luck!

Tracy
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by Chinese Pistache View Post
Sounds like an IgG intolerance. You could do testing (ALCAT or ELISA), but nothing is 100% accurate. I would probably do an elimination diet of the top 8 allergens plus corn and sesame, which are numbers 9 and 10. (That includes wheat, eggs, dairy, soy, nuts, treenuts, fish, shellfish.) My dd's big eczema triggers are dairy and corn. My ds's big eczema triggers are dairy and wheat. They also have lesser reactions to other foods, including fruits with high salicylates, which you may want to explore if you don't get anywhere with the ED.
Sorry for quoting myself, but it occured to me that you may not have had IgE testing for corn. If not, it could still be an IgE reaction. Though, as you know, eczema can be either IgG or IgE.
post #8 of 13
My daughter has eczema and I eliminated all allergens I could think of and nothing seemed to help and we finally figured out she has lots of environmental allergies, mold, grasses, trees. We added a couple of HEPA filters to her sleeping room and main play area and that has helped, as well as washing her after being outside playing. We are also doing sublingual immunotherapy and I really think it is working.

Good luck. Eczema is so tricky.
post #9 of 13
Everyone has posted really good info. Allergy tests can be inconclusive at best, and conventional care providers (Pediatricians and allergists) generally aren't any more helpful than the tests. Many of them fail to even recognize skin issues and behavioral changes as symptoms of a larger underlying picture.

Eczema is a systemic problem and it seems to take a long time to diagnose triggers. Flare-ups typically aren't as immediate as "true" allergic reactions are, and they take a while to clear up so it can be a long, mysterious process trying to sort it all out. It has been for my family.

One thing I have learned is that re-establishing beneficial intestinal flora is very important, as is supporting the body's ability to process the triggers in other ways. For us, probiotics and Omega 3s have been key, in addition to a few other supplements tailored to my chid. I strongly recommend the book Healing the New Childhood Epidemics http://www.amazon.com/Healing-New-Ch.../dp/0345494504

Another thing I have learned is that you can remove every single trigger, show great improvement, but still not get back to completely eczema-free skin because until you strengthen the body's ability to process triggers and toxins, it will continue to "react" to things. The original symptoms may almost entirely clear, but new ones may surface as the underlying weaknesses are still there.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by riomidwife View Post
it can be a long, mysterious process trying to sort it all out. It has been for my family.

One thing I have learned is that re-establishing beneficial intestinal flora is very important, as is supporting the body's ability to process the triggers in other ways. For us, probiotics and Omega 3s have been key, in addition to a few other supplements tailored to my chid. I strongly recommend the book Healing the New Childhood Epidemics http://www.amazon.com/Healing-New-Ch.../dp/0345494504

We found we were having eczema reactions to nightshades and laundry soap.

I wanted to reply to suggest the book mentioned above...fantastic
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 
UPDATE*****
I wanted to update that my dtr is finally in the clear! Thank God. We did P-N testing and was SO informative. She came up positive for corn, rice, and yeast, in addition to wheat, gluten, soy, and cow milk.

She was negative in several others, which included eggs and nightshades. Whew!

Once we eliminated all the trigger foods and moved to 100% organic fruits and veggies, she is 100% clear. She went from almost not sleeping for one year due to the itching/bleeding and crying to a healthy body. Just short of a miracle!

Wanted to update with good news!
post #12 of 13
That's great!!
post #13 of 13
This is fabulous! Thank you so much for the update!!

Pat
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