More Chat! May 17 - 22 - Page 19

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by menomena

hmm. i was attributing my DD's freakouts to high dopamine, because there is this suspicious/paranoid nature to them sometimes. but, the way you've described it here, it fits DD1 (& DH, actually) to a T. Lily & I are already doing B12, mag, folate & now Mo. We've been doing the water kefir thing for awhile and the girls and I drink a two quarts every two days. we put a pint in our smoothies each morning and then we sip some throughout the day. i usually drink half a pint or more in the evening, depending on how much is left. maybe i should chill out on the kefir for her?

this is hard to figure out.

But the way you were describing Lily earlier it really did sound like paranoia. Wasn't she basically telling you everyone was out to do her wrong? With dd I was originally thinking paranoia, but now I'm thinking she just is worried that the world is going to end, constantly. You didn't understand what I said? I'm going to lay down and cry because I NEVER get what I want. You pulled up the search feature of youtube instead of the video directly? I'm going to throw a tantrum because it didn't show up immediately and now there's no way in the world you'll be able to find it. It's not that she thinks there's anything malicious behind it, it's more the assumption that the world is ending because it wasn't exactly what she was expecting.

The fun part is how it's all the same nutrients anyway, so we might never know and it might not even matter.

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Oh, and limiting ammonia (protein and/or probiotics).

Are you dissing my probiotic fetish? :


Pat

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by WuWei

Are you dissing my probiotic fetish? :

oh right. ammonia comes from too much protein, or from the wrong gut bacteria. probiotics GOOD. probiotics to LOWER ammonia.

Dis probiotics in this forum? Do you think I've totally lost it?

[menomena]

phew!

[WuWei]

Originally Posted by menomena

phew!

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Pat

[lastrid]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Anxiety is a sign of low serotonin. Dd's freakouts definitely seem to fall in that category, since it's almost always in response to a possible misunderstanding or a possible negative reaction. Shyness (social anxiety) is also a sign of low serotonin, and that's DEFINITELY dd.

My way of addressing low serotonin is to look at all the things necessary to make it, and be sure we're good on them. The sleep thread has more details, but off the top of my head, tryptophan, magnesium, B12, folate and molybdenum are all key players. Oh, and limiting ammonia (protein and/or probiotics).

I definitely have an ammonia problem, but I'm not sure how to fix it. We're on GAPS and are low oxalate. It makes things pretty complicated. DS also will only eat meat and fruit and sauerkraut. He'll occasionally eat fresh beans or lettuce in small amounts. I'm looking forward to pickling baby vegetables to see if he'll eat those (he likes lactofermented cucumber pickles, so I'm hopeful).

I'm going to trial red clover blossoms next week. Is there any reason DS couldn't have that? And does anyone have a B12 supp that's GAPS/SCD legal?

[changingseasons]

Originally Posted by menomena

CS, house news?

also, ladies, i just got my first ppaf. : A will be 2 on wednesday. however, that means this cycle had a 5 day LP, I think. that's okay since I'm not looking to get PG just yet... i'm taking it to mean that my body is feeling less stressed. lily is down to about once a week nursing and a is waking maybe 1 or 2x max per night. :

i hope everyone is enjoying their holiday weekend!! the weather here is just gorgeous so we're spending every free second outdoors.

That's exciting news!!

We are definitely enjoying the lovely weather on this holiday weekend. We just got back from a walk around Greenlake, and tomorrow we'll be enjoying Folklife at Seattle Center.

No house news... and my agent hasn't even called me back from yesterday (which is weird for her), so I don't even know if we got our acceptance of the counter turned in yet. sigh... I guess we'll just have to wait for news on Tuesday.

Originally Posted by whoMe

We just went to the bike store to get a tire iron (is that what it's called?) to fix a flat on one of our bikes and I happened to ask about balance bikes. They went and searched the store and found the *one* in stock, and dd is cautiously ing it. She's also been having a much better day (to balance my worse day) and I have no idea what to attribute it to : I'm just feeling useless these days.

Yeah, those balance bikes are really cute. I want to get one for DD except that there's only one brand that I know of with anything less that a 12" bike (since she's so tiny!), AND they're so flippin expensive.

Originally Posted by menomena

shannon, yay for bikes!! we went garage sale-ing this morning and got Aev a little trike for 50 cents. I love a bargain!

That IS a deal!! That's what I need to go- start garage-sale-ing. We need to get DD some good outdoor toys for the yard that we're going to have soon.

[tanyalynn]

help

Can I pass the baton, just this week, on starting a new thread?

OR, is there any objection to making this week's thread a 2-week deal? I could change the title to reflect the new time period. But that really messes with the orderliness of the threads (though my not remembering to start first-thing Saturday morning has already messed with that somewhat).

Ups and downs here. Meant to be driving to ElP today, but couldn't get everything done in time, DH wasn't as helpful as I thought he should be. Well, today I _really_ looked at him, and he doesn't look good. He looks really worn down, really. Like I felt a couple years ago. The deep, neverending exhaustion. I knew the big deadline and stress at work weren't good for him, but looking at him this afternoon, it seemed like I could see the toll its taken. Now I feel bad for my bad thoughts and I'm really hoping that having the house to himself for a couple weeks will at least give him a bit of peace and quiet.

Yet again I am torn on how to address it, what changes or additions to how to approach it. The biggest is getting outta this town, but I think my mom getting here in June to help us organize the place should get us one step closer to that.

But, we're set for the drive tomorrow, just need to do a few things tonight, put stuff in the car in the morning and off we go.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by lastrid

I definitely have an ammonia problem, but I'm not sure how to fix it. We're on GAPS and are low oxalate. It makes things pretty complicated. DS also will only eat meat and fruit and sauerkraut. He'll occasionally eat fresh beans or lettuce in small amounts. I'm looking forward to pickling baby vegetables to see if he'll eat those (he likes lactofermented cucumber pickles, so I'm hopeful).

How do you know you have an ammonia problem? Because I was sure I did, then test results came back normal. I don't know if I need to be looking at a different range or if I really just don't have an ammonia issue.

Originally Posted by changingseasons

Yeah, those balance bikes are really cute. I want to get one for DD except that there's only one brand that I know of with anything less that a 12" bike (since she's so tiny!), AND they're so flippin expensive.

This one goes down to 11" is it the one you know about? (And that website is run by a local mama )

[ellasmama2007]

im so sorry for taking so long to reply to your helpful suggestions, girls. i typed out my whole reply once already and it was deleted somehow... thank you though!

Originally Posted by whoMe

Try starting REALLY slow. Cause you know my bets are on the B12 itself. I forget, have you tried betaine (TMG)? I think some people have more success starting slow on that when they don't tolerate the B12 at all.

whome, im sending you healing, happy vibes. you are so amazing and helpful on here and i feel so sad when i see things arent going smoothly for you!
i have not tried betaine and didnt even really understand about it until you mentioned it. i think i might give another b12 supp a shot and then possibly the betaine once i read more about it. im still holding on to hope that it was the cherry in the last b12 supp causing my issues.

Originally Posted by WuWei

Ellasmama, I believe you want magnesium citrate. Maybe Magnesium Malate, was best absorbed. But, I recall oxide to be poorly absorbed. What about this food supplement product someone posted about recently: http://www.ultimatelife.com/CatalogMealBenefits.htm

Pat

pat, i bookmarked this hoping that one day in the future we might be able to have it. right now, it'll have to be on hold because of the grains, but thank you for the info. we're still soakin away in the epsoms (with FEs in the water too) a lot as well.

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Ellasmom, magnesium needs seem highly variable. I'm giving my son 110mg per day, have been for ages, but DD is getting 3x that and I've considered going higher--if I drop to 50mg or less, within just 2 days she has trouble falling asleep, so I don't think I'm making up the deficiency, I think it's been used at this rate. And she's just 45 lbs.

But whoMe's comment on B12 is important too, maybe really, really slow.

I gave my son DMG (dimethylglycine, similar to trimethylglycine, the TMG whoMe mentioned) last year and it didn't seem to do anything, but my HCP mentioned glycine (didn't specify TMG or DMG, we didn't get that far) when I asked about what-next on the detox stuff for me. But it seems whether it promotes detox is dose-dependent because my multivit has 50mg of TMG (which is also called betaine HCl, why so many names??) per 2 tablets and I've mostly been taking 6 tablets/day. So I'm guessing dose is a big deal.

thank you for this info, tanya. im so sorry that you feel like your dh is looking exhausted. it's so painful to be able to SEE everything that your lo is going through written all over their face. im wishing restful vibes his way!
is it just me, or do all the names for everything make your head spin?! i will add the dmg to the list with tmg to check out if i fail another b12 trial (which i plan on starting slower this time!) i have to check out the supp thread for a cornless sublingual. the source naturals one that i took the last time had me covered in hives which, as whome mentioned, could have been a detox thing or a reaction thing.

Originally Posted by kjbrown92

My magnesium is magnesium glycinate (giprohealth) and seems to be absorbing pretty well since it's taken the place of my Travacor and I'm sleeping great (but not feeling tired during the day). I'm taking 600mg/day.

oh thank you, im glad to see your dosage because it gives me a better idea for myself. im sorry that potatoes failed and caused reaction issues for your ds. i always think that your family is so blessed to have you caring for them, kathy. you always seem to be working hard to figure out their food needs and health needs!
fwiw, my dds kp started on her face.


nessa, know something interesting? i just got af too (is it from hanging out together on here?). mine isnt my first pp though. i got one last june, july and august repectively and then nothing since then until now.
it might have been a coincidence too but i had just taken about 4gm of vit c that day for the first time (we didnt have a safe vit c, only quercetin with c and i didnt want to take tons of quercetin just to get the c) and 15 mins later i started a period. i felt like that must have been a sign of increasing health, right? i figure afs are kinda optional for the body.

[mtn.mama]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Can I pass the baton, just this week, on starting a new thread?

OR, is there any objection to making this week's thread a 2-week deal? I could change the title to reflect the new time period. But that really messes with the orderliness of the threads (though my not remembering to start first-thing Saturday morning has already messed with that somewhat).

I'll start working on this, since my newly returned husband is gone to town and my child is playing happily independently- unless someone else is already doing it?

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by ellasmama2007

im so sorry for taking so long to reply to your helpful suggestions, girls. i typed out my whole reply once already and it was deleted somehow... thank you though!

whome, im sending you healing, happy vibes. you are so amazing and helpful on here and i feel so sad when i see things arent going smoothly for you!
i have not tried betaine and didnt even really understand about it until you mentioned it. i think i might give another b12 supp a shot and then possibly the betaine once i read more about it. im still holding on to hope that it was the cherry in the last b12 supp causing my issues.

Thanks You really have a way of making people feel good. Wow. I'm visualizing the slow start of the new B12 being the key you've been looking for.

[mtn.mama]

New thread is up, right here...

[changingseasons]

Have at it Lisa!! eta: Wow, you're fast... by the time I posted, you were already done!

Originally Posted by whoMe

How do you know you have an ammonia problem? Because I was sure I did, then test results came back normal. I don't know if I need to be looking at a different range or if I really just don't have an ammonia issue.

This one goes down to 11" is it the one you know about? (And that website is run by a local mama )

Actually, no I hadn't seen that one. There's one that goes down to 10"... aah yes, it's the Haro bike (the one at the bottom of the page.) We tried DD on a regular 12" balance bike at a local store, and it was WAY too big. She barely made it over the bar, and the seat was another few inches on top of that. So even for the 10" bike we'll have to wait a while...

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by lastrid

Wow, I actually caught up before the new thread was posted.



DS freaks out ALL.THE.TIME. about weird things (like wanting to flush the toilet; he asks me to "flush it back" while in screamy tears). He'll get stuck in a loop, screaming the same thing over and over again. I don't deal with this very well either. If this is low serotonin, how do we address it?

DD is like this at times. It really weird. Freaks over things we just can't change. So low seratonin, huh?

Which flavor of Natural Calm are you using? The plain one isn't very sweet to me (and I like lemon water). I also sometimes just dissolve it in cold water and down it quickly. It's a bit more fizzy that way.

I use lemon raspberry or something like that. I don't like it. Too sweet. Maybe I'll try cold water.