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post #1 of 6
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I never realized how I had surrounded myself with friends that use gentle discipline with their children. I went to visit my brother and his wife, who are actually raising their friends 3 children. But, they are raising them very hard and tough. Where they actually have one room where the kids are supposed to play with the tv on Cartoon Network 24/7. They aren't allowed to talk or bring any toys out of that room. And when they get in trouble chastise the poor kids. My brother actually tried to do that with my son.
While we were there, I saw in my kids a deflation. If my parent's weren't going to be there the next day, we would have left. I cried every night. It was the most stressful vacation that I had ever been on.
Anyway, I just had to write this to let people who gentle discipline a hug because what we are doing with our kids will certainly make them stronger and more secure. Those poor kids that are being raised by my brother have no self esteem. They look down with they walk. They don't talk or smile. They don't tell jokes and have any fun. So, I saw first hand that what I am doing is the right way for my kids.
Ok, so, I'm rambling. Thanks for listening!
post #2 of 6
That must of been very hard to see. I find the more you read on why GD is so great, the harder it is to see less GD approaches.

My SIL is a spanker, a yeller and just over all not very nice to her kids. Last time we saw her she was trying to get us all to tell her 14 year old that her new hair colour wasn't nice. It made me feel so sad. Also her DD of 3 had an accident and she got so angry - there wasn't any mess on the floor and they had a change of clothes. You never see her give them any genuine love and attention. I have gotten teary many times thinking about her children.
post #3 of 6
My brother and his wife are like this too. The kids have a dead look in their eyes, it's horrifying. There were 3 in their care, now there are 2. The middle child, a boy, was placed in a foster home and adopted out. Best thing in the world that could happen to him, it saddens me to say that. The youngest one is on the way out too from what I gather. I hope she and the oldest both manage to get out and find loving homes.
post #4 of 6
That is really sad. Do you think that since they are not their "real" children that they never bonded with them?
I do think gentle parenting is the way to go but I also do not believe that normal mainstream parenting causes children to become like you described. I know children who are spanked and have had to CIO who are full of life and fun. When children get a chronic dead look in their eyes and the spirit and love for life is gone then something is horribly wrong. It takes a lot to get a child to a place like that and it is very sad and tragic when it happens.
post #5 of 6
What's sad is they probably think there is something wrong with you.

My children are the oldest grandchildren. Their father's mother slapped and spanked her children often and as the other grandchildren came along she hit them. She didn't hit my children. When their father and I divorced I told her that if she ever hit my kids she would never see them again.

She didn't believe in childproofing and thought kids needed to learn to stay out of stuff and fit in the family by hitting. There was a TV in every room, even the bathroom. TV was the babysitter. There were my two sons and she had 2 daughters that each had 2 children.

At my son's Eagle Scout award celebration she came up to me and told me that she hadn't agreed with my parenting but she changed her mind and thought I was a very good mother. The other grandchildren all had multiple discipline and other problems.

I know it must have been hard for her to say that. Her rejection of me was the main reason my children's father left us.
post #6 of 6
My brother and his wife seem to be the same way (not sure exactly as I decided to not have him in my life anymore after years of severe passive aggressive behavior that he wouldn't own up to). I occasionally go and look at her blog, though, out of some sick fascination that I have. Their son is almost 4 and they have a 6-month-old girl. His eyes are definitely dead-looking...not much light in them at all. Him and his wife are both Type A, ego-driven people...I wish I could scoop their children up and "save" them, so to speak, but I can't It makes me sad just thinking about it...
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