dairy allergy what take for calcium?

[ccm]

I'm about to cut out dairy products of my diet for a few weeks
anyone know of a good calcium supplement to use?
I also am trying to remineralize my teeth so calcium is important for me.

[Theloose]

We do bone broth and bone meal when the broth isn't happening. DEFINITELY keep up the minerals - they're important for your teeth and also for keeping your body functioning well and avoiding food reactions.

: for other calcium ideas

[Catt75]

Originally Posted by whoMe

We do bone broth and bone meal when the broth isn't happening. DEFINITELY keep up the minerals - they're important for your teeth and also for keeping your body functioning well and avoiding food reactions.

: for other calcium ideas

What is bone meal..I have not heard it mentioned before.

[babycarrier]

Is chicken or turkey bone broth good for this or does it need to be beef?

[Theloose]

Bone meal is basically just ground up bones, sold as a supplement. You have to be careful about what you buy though, to watch out for heavy metals and prions (as in mad cow).

I honestly don't know how different broths compare for calcium content, and I REALLY want to know. I'm hoping to get some to a lab for testing in the semi-near future.

[FairyRae]

Calcium content of chicken bone broth

Originally Posted by whoMe

I honestly don't know how different broths compare for calcium content, and I REALLY want to know. I'm hoping to get some to a lab for testing in the semi-near future.

This was JUST posted on my local WAPF group--I think it's relevant!

Forwarded message:

a woman on the WAP healthy babies group tested her broth for calcium.
below is her post.......

"Since my little baby has been drinking the broth formula in addition
to breast milk for a couple of weeks now, I was interested to find
out how much Calcium/Magnesium exists in it.

I tested my broth using an aquarium water kit. In parallel, my father
took the broth for testing to 2 different labs.

I live in the Netherlands and my father lives in Romania, so we
obviously used different types of chicken and different waters, but
as you will see, the results are strikingly similar.

Both me and my father prepared the broth in the same way: we used all
the bones from one single pasture chicken (aproximately 200g of bones
in total). We cut the bones in pieces as much as we could, covered
them with aprox 2 liters of water, then we added 2 TBS of vinegar
(ACV) and let the bones+water+vinegar stand for 1 hour. Then we
brought the mixture to boil and boiled it on low fire for 24 hours.
With my aquarium kit, I have tested 100mg of Calcium per liter and
150 mg Magnesium per liter.
My father took the broth sample to 2 labs: first, to an industrial
lab, and second, to a food safety lab. The test that came from the
industrial lab gave the same result 100 mg of Calcium per liter.
However, the food safety lab gave a slightly more amount of Calcium
-150 mg of Calcium per liter. The Food safety lab found that in the
broth exists two types of Calcium: the first was in the form of
calcium carbonate ( CaCo3); this calcium was 100mg per liter in the
broth. The second type of calcium was in an ionic form ( Ca++) and
this one was 50mg per liter. Thus, the Total Calcium was estimated to
150mg per liter.

So, my conclusion was that 1 liter of broth made using all the bones
of one pasture chicken( no feet, no head) will probably provide
between 100- 150mg of Calcium per liter."

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by whoMe

Bone meal is basically just ground up bones, sold as a supplement. You have to be careful about what you buy though, to watch out for heavy metals and prions (as in mad cow).

Do you have a specific brand you recommend, that you know does not have the metals and prions?

TIA!

[Theloose]

I use NOW brand, that claims it's tested for metals, but I have no idea about the prions (that's recent news to me) and that's part of why I'm pushing the bone broth instead of the bone meal at this point. I'm not big into checking out my supplements :

I saw that posted about the broth being tested, but I don't want to believe it. I tested some at home myself, and came up with a number closer to 400mg/L (with a ginormous margin of error) (wow, spell check didn't flag ginormous?). I'm hoping for even higher than that. I saw a reference in a google book once upon a time that seemed to imply it could be like hundreds of mg per spoonful. So I have hope. But nothing to back me up.

[mtn.mama]

We use nettles infusions for our calcium (and a whole lot of other nutrients).

[tinyblackdot]

We use calcium citrate

here is an artical on dairy free calcium

[Theloose]

Dh is amazing and just found the aquarium calcium test kit from under the dryer. I took the opportunity to test the broth we have in the fridge. The test isn't behaving like the instructions say, so my confidence is low. According to my best guess, there's either less than 20mg, or somewhere around 600-800mg+/liter. I like the second option better than the first I'm going to test again as soon as dd lets me.

My broth is beef bones, cooked in a pressure cooker with plain water (no acid) for a couple hours.

[JaneS]

Ugh, can I just saw that 100-150mg per liter really sucks!!

I would rec Dr. Ron's MCHC cal/mag cold processed from bone:
http://www.drrons.com/bone-calcium-f...and-cattle.htm

[tanyalynn]

From my experience, 100-150mg/L doesn't fit what what I've seen in myself. Last year sometime I was monitoring my urine pH fairly regularly, and I saw it change on days when I had a couple servings of soup (vs just in grains and other smaller amounts). I was using the pH strips to figure out how much of my mineral supp to take, and on days when I had lots of soup, I could've cut back on my mineral supp by 1-2 pills, which was I think about 200mg of a very absorbable mineral supp--I say very absorbable because I really wasn't needing as much as conventional wisdom would say I'd need given my health issues.

Part of the problem is going to be the bioavailability issue, I think, because I think it's absorbed at higher rate than many other foods. So whatever we come up with needs to be weighed in that light.

Either way--I use Perque Bone Guard Forte 20 as a mineral supp beyond what I try to get from foods, and I think a supp is especially appropriate when you're just starting a dietary change _and_ working on remineralizing.

Speaking of which--how are you on food/supp sources of A, D, and K2? And magnesium? Lots of things work together for this.

eta-actually I just noticed that my mineral supp has a reasonable amount of K2 (given that it's a supp) that may be at a helpful amount for most people.

[Theloose]

Okay, test number three, I'm convincing myself that 1500mg/L isn't an unreasonable guess. Now I *really* want to get my bone broth tested officially.

The reason for the huge range of answers is that the test solution is supposed to start pink and turn dark blue. Mine's starting light blue, then turning darker. There's an obvious change and that's what I'm tracking, but not nearly as obvious as pink->dark blue.

[tanyalynn]

So that's a bit under 400mg per cup, roughly, and I am going to assume that's very bioavailable. Good incentive to get some stock going.

[ASusan]

Yep. I'm headed to the freezer for some bones RIGHT NOW.

[Lissybug]

I made stock the other night and, Argh! We were in a rush filling the jars and over filled one that we stuck in the freezer- a quart of nice bone broth lost to a broken jar!

We try to get in a large amount of dark leafy greens and broccolli which are high in calcium, and I eat a fair amount of almonds which I understand have good calcium. Actually I've been meaning to take a little closer look at whther I'm getting enough calcium though...

Lisa- how much of the Nettle infusion are you drinking in a day?

[mtn.mama]

Originally Posted by Lissybug

I made stock the other night and, Argh! We were in a rush filling the jars and over filled one that we stuck in the freezer- a quart of nice bone broth lost to a broken jar!

We try to get in a large amount of dark leafy greens and broccolli which are high in calcium, and I eat a fair amount of almonds which I understand have good calcium. Actually I've been meaning to take a little closer look at whther I'm getting enough calcium though...

Lisa- how much of the Nettle infusion are you drinking in a day?

Alissa- I guess it works out to a little less than 3/8 cup of dried nettles daily.

[tanyalynn]

MtnMama, is there a place online to read about herbs and nutrients? And whether particular herbs would be contraindicated with some health conditions? Or a book, for that matter, I need something more complete to learn from.

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

MtnMama, is there a place online to read about herbs and nutrients? And whether particular herbs would be contraindicated with some health conditions? Or a book, for that matter, I need something more complete to learn from.

I have Nutritional Herbology (a book, can't remember the author) which goes into a nutritional analysis, common uses, and active components and more of lots of herbs. I definitely recommend it. Someday I'll actually go through and make a plan for myself