Acute Homeopathy Study Group thread - Page 9

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

I also wish I had a super small emergency kit. One that I can throw in my pocket or a small bag.

I just saw one that is the size of a credit card....

http://www.homeocard.com/

[FireWithin]

That is the coolest, cutest homeopathy kit - but holey shmoley the cost! hmm. mmm.

[Panserbjorne]

You always pay for convenience! Frankly the washington kits are overpriced, but they are VERY convenient in terms of being indestructible. I love that I can have them in my bag wherever I go. In fact I have a very stylish handbag that the top 100 fits nicely in. It's always there. I paid for the convenience and I've certainly got my money's worth!

[lil_miss_understood]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

I just saw one that is the size of a credit card....

http://www.homeocard.com/

that is so cool!!

[FireWithin]

Yes I do love how indestructible the washington homeopathic kits are and I didn't fully appreciate the size until someone watched me pick out one of my remedies and use my pendulum at the park. She said she has to haul around a shoebox full of remedies whenever they travel. So I totally appreciate that. Interesting about them being overpriced. They are cheaper than what I can buy at the store, and better quality.

Have you found the 100 remedy kit to be more useful than the 50?

[Panserbjorne]

certainly for my purposes, yes. I have the 50 remedy kits in other potencies because they don't offer 100 in any others. I really, really wish they did.

And I should also recant. It's a very well priced kit for home use. I go through so much that I tend to go for other kits that while very inexpensive would be overkill for the average person. They would also be impractical for traveling...so again WHP win out. So I take back what I said. It's an excellent value for what it is. And given that a regular oil boiron tube is $7 or so clearly either one is a huge savings and value to that at home prescriber.

[FireWithin]

ok well that makes sense.

Have you ever had homeopathy not work for you? when you thought it should? You being a skilled user, not me a newbie getting a whole lot of experience this past month.

[Panserbjorne]

I'm not sure I understand the question...so bear with me!

I have had remedies that I thought should work, not. But then I generally go back to the drawing board find the right one, or a right *enough* one and it does. Sometimes the first or even second remedy isn't the right one.

I have had it not work nearly fast enough for my comfort. Again, probably there was a better remedy or potency and I wasn't getting it.

I have had people who are hypo sensitive to homeopathy and need way higher potencies than they "should" have.

I have had people who antidote all the time so it appears it's not working until I change how it's being taken. I have also had people that burn through remedies faster than it seemed they should have, but in both cases it was still clear it was working...just not for long enough.

I have had times where the picture changed so rapidly it seemed it wasn't working, but if you look at the case notes it's clear it was just a progression.

I had a situation myself where unconventional prescribing was necessary, so it seemed as though it wasn't working but when I went with my gut it did. I would get slapped upside the head by any classical homeopath for what I did though.

I have also personally experienced that I respond better to flowers than to homeopathy in some cases. My migraines are relieved 80% by homeopathy, while the are completely eradicated with flowers. I am a hyposensitive person though. I can take absurdly high doses frequently without aggravation. However I did take a 10M twice a day for weeks on end at one point (as was prescribed) and that didn't end well. But I was fine (great, actually!) for a few weeks. Generally 10M's are used as a single dose.

Anyway...I don't know if any of that was helpful!

[FireWithin]

Thanks Panser, yes it does help.
The question was pretty loaded with emotion.

I asked this question after DH, with so much compassion after seeing me in so much pain all day yesterday without any apparent homeopathic relief, told me that nothing works all the time (or something to that affect). I appreciated the love in his message, but I think a remedy not working is so much more complicated than that statement. I think I needed to have the different reasons for issues spelled out for me, as you did. so thank you. I had been mulling around in my head last night some of your reasonings. The thing is, as I understand it, it is not the remedy that is doing the healing, it is the person's body. So it is just finding the magic match (both remedy and amount) that is needed. Interesting about the picture changing so rapidly that it looked like it wasn't working, but really was. I believe that has happened to me. I find that it is not unusual for my remedies to change and on occasion that can make me feel uncomfortable.

I think partially for me is I am working off of two approaches and I don't have full confidence in either. My intellectual knowledge of homeopathy is still new, (although I do think I am over the very new newbie hump), so I sometimes have a hard time trusting myself. And then, I haven't always had success with my pendulum, so when my responses aren't clear I tend to self-doubt. Yet, so often my pendulum is so crystal clear. Intellectually it totally made sense that my body needed colocynthis yesterday and today and I received a pendulum yes and then a no soon after, and then I didn't seem to respond and hours and much thinking and tries later sepia seemed to be the answer but then not clear and just no relief. (plus there were so many other trials inbetween.)
It just seems to be so much harder to find a remedy when you are really sick. I remember sitting up in bed with H1N1, and little vials scattered around me, holding my necklace and just crying. I couldn't figure it out. But this is why I need to figure it out now, so I have more tools when times are bad.

ok I have two (or maybe three) off the wall somewhat disjointed questions/comments.

We've been going through so many illnesses recently. It has been so bizarre. This experience seems to be going into a spiritual journey for me. I don't mean religious, nor it is having me question my beliefs in general. Yet, there seems to be a reason for this. I feel the need to embrace this journey and not just slog or grumble through it. hmmm are those FEs speaking? I've started pondering things beyond my regular boundaries, including EFT. I feel like this is the time for my introspective learning. Also, maybe it is just needed for me to get deeper into this energy medium. Recently I asked about muscle pain due to illness. (I had been really uncomfortable and not able to find a solution). When I finally found the response on this thread, I was beyond the illness, so I didn't feel the need to go beyond surface knowledge -just info to tuck away until needed later. So now what is happening? I am experiencing muscle pain in my neck and shoulder so intense that I can't talk above a whisper and I am so thirsty and hungry but I can't swallow well. (ok I took an aspirin an hour ago because I needed to eat and relax my muscles - so I am not currently hungry or thirsty.) So I feel like I am having this challenge and I keep on hitting an energy brick wall. Sometimes it is challenging in a fun and exciting way - like a puzzle. I just feel desperate now, and that desperation must be clouding things. Talking this through, and having some currently physical relief, is helping me find my peace.

I just started tapping Thursday night. Could that being stirring things up? Is it a coincidence that soon after I tapped for a mild asthma reaction, I started experiencing pain?

I just tested positive for sepia. I am going to commit to it for a while and see what happens.

eta: interesting about sepia. I have a sore throat due to my muscle stuff, but am also currently ending a cold (kali bi -like). Sepia description seems to be combining my muscle pain with my cold. - well I will see what happens.

[tanyalynn]

I'm going to bump part 2 of my own question. DD threw up again during a coughing fit, double bummer because we were in the car about 2 hours from home, but she dealt with it well and we figured makeshift clothing to get home in.

Using the book I've got, coughing fits and vomiting with coughing seem to overlap with both bryonia alba and ipecac. I'd tend to say the bry is better, but I may buy both tomorrow at the HFS. Thoughts, other ideas?

PB, thank you for the book rec, I'll get it and then have a clue.

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

2. The reason, I need more tools for dealing with stuff. I don't think DD is sick in the sense that I usually think of being sick, she's got this lingering cough from us being sick a while ago, and sometimes it's getting irritated and I don't know why. And poor kid threw up twice this morning from the coughing--I really don't think she has a gastro bug, I think it was just the irritation from coughing fits, and I don't know enough to do to help her. The coughing has subsided a bit and she's looking at a book relatively patiently waiting for me to finish this, but this cough has lingered (sounds dry, not productive, um, happens periodically during the day, sometimes correlates to high activity levels but not always).

Thank you.

[lil_miss_understood]

ds3's teething hard again
was desperately looking for my remedies, holding a screaming babe... found coffea cruda... gave it to him (cuz i was desperate) didn't work... not surprising since re-reading the desc of the different remedies, it didn't fit
glad i didn't find my pulsatilla bc that's not the one i wanted either
got dh to dig in my supp/remedy basket and he found my chamomila... seems to be doing the trick... his cheek, which was bright red, puffy and so bad it was making his ear hurt, isn't quite "normal" but much improved... wondering if 30c wouldn't have been a better dose but only have 6c anyway

[Panserbjorne]

screaming with one red cheek is always a dead giveaway! Yes, I'd go with higher, but you do what you can with what you have. If you can get 30c I probably would. I also love rubbing castor oil along the jawline and up around the ears with chamomile or clove EO.

Tanya, the key with bryonia is that motion makes it worse. The biggest identifier (for being at home) is just that. And don't limit it to physical motion either. Bryonia headaches can't move their eyes often times, they can't talk and they can't move their heads. When I broke a rib I used bryonia because breathing hurt.

If she's fine until she starts coughing (motion) fine until she sits up/gets up (motion) or fine until she talks (motion) then I'd go with bryonia first. However I'd have ipecac on hand too. There are many remedies that have spasmodic coughing until they vomit...but that's a big one.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

The thing is, as I understand it, it is not the remedy that is doing the healing, it is the person's body.
This is correct.

So it is just finding the magic match (both remedy and amount) that is needed.
yes, and no. You need a similar enough remedy. In acute prescribing there are often more than one that can fit the bill. It's not as needley-in the haystack as finding the one *perfect* match.

Interesting about the picture changing so rapidly that it looked like it wasn't working, but really was. I believe that has happened to me. I find that it is not unusual for my remedies to change and on occasion that can make me feel uncomfortable.
Why? That's what acute illnesses often do! The remedies are a catalyst, really that's it. They stimulate your body to move. Often acute illnesses have different stages (remedies are even written this way...hepar sulph is a "final stage" remedy.) don't feel skittish about following the illness. However if things keep shifting and feel very changeable it's always good to keep pulsatilla in the back of your mind!

I think partially for me is I am working off of two approaches and I don't have full confidence in either. My intellectual knowledge of homeopathy is still new, (although I do think I am over the very new newbie hump), so I sometimes have a hard time trusting myself. And then, I haven't always had success with my pendulum, so when my responses aren't clear I tend to self-doubt. Yet, so often my pendulum is so crystal clear. Intellectually it totally made sense that my body needed colocynthis yesterday and today and I received a pendulum yes and then a no soon after, and then I didn't seem to respond and hours and much thinking and tries later sepia seemed to be the answer but then not clear and just no relief. (plus there were so many other trials inbetween.)
Remember too it's all about how you ask. I can ask about a remedy and get a yes, ask about two more and then get no on the first. Is my testing method inaccurate, is my question inaccurate, or was that remedy a good fit, but then I tried something better? There is no "gold standard" for muscle testing...but the right remedy generally gets tested more than once to make sure that it's still the best choice. And, again...I just don't have fear around this. It doesn't need to be so stressful. Try the remedy and if you need to change it, it's okay.

It just seems to be so much harder to find a remedy when you are really sick.
Ummm, yes. For anyone!
I remember sitting up in bed with H1N1, and little vials scattered around me, holding my necklace and just crying. I couldn't figure it out. But this is why I need to figure it out now, so I have more tools when times are bad.

We've been going through so many illnesses recently. It has been so bizarre. This experience seems to be going into a spiritual journey for me. I don't mean religious, nor it is having me question my beliefs in general. Yet, there seems to be a reason for this. I feel the need to embrace this journey and not just slog or grumble through it. hmmm are those FEs speaking? I've started pondering things beyond my regular boundaries, including EFT. I feel like this is the time for my introspective learning. Also, maybe it is just needed for me to get deeper into this energy medium.
it opens new doors in the consciousness...I think for everyone who does experience anything that works that logically shouldn't. It is about discovering that spiritual side and experiencing that we are more than just matter. It's a total shift.
Recently I asked about muscle pain due to illness. (I had been really uncomfortable and not able to find a solution). When I finally found the response on this thread, I was beyond the illness, so I didn't feel the need to go beyond surface knowledge -just info to tuck away until needed later. So now what is happening? I am experiencing muscle pain in my neck and shoulder so intense that I can't talk above a whisper and I am so thirsty and hungry but I can't swallow well.
speaking of bryonia....
(ok I took an aspirin an hour ago because I needed to eat and relax my muscles - so I am not currently hungry or thirsty.) So I feel like I am having this challenge and I keep on hitting an energy brick wall. Sometimes it is challenging in a fun and exciting way - like a puzzle. I just feel desperate now, and that desperation must be clouding things. Talking this through, and having some currently physical relief, is helping me find my peace.

I just started tapping Thursday night. Could that being stirring things up? Is it a coincidence that soon after I tapped for a mild asthma reaction, I started experiencing pain?
nope. but keep tapping. You can tap on what comes up, too.

I just tested positive for sepia. I am going to commit to it for a while and see what happens.

eta: interesting about sepia. I have a sore throat due to my muscle stuff, but am also currently ending a cold (kali bi -like). Sepia description seems to be combining my muscle pain with my cold. - well I will see what happens.

Let us know!

[mombh]

I'd love to join this discussion

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[tanyalynn]

I think the ipecac is working! Panserbjorne, your description of bryonia really helped, the motion part didn't fit well, so I decided to just get and try the ipecac, and it seems to be working. This would be so cool.

Oh, and on a different topic... DD used to get canker sores relatively frequently (too frequently given how much they hurt). Natrum muriacticum was my first homeopathic success, and I was thrilled, and I made sure to get extra so we'd always have it on-hand for when they came back. But it surely seems like the time between episodes is lengthening, it's been quite a while now. I've been trying to work on the underlying issue, but it seems like the improvement started before that.

Would successful use of an acute homeopathic remedy help prevent recurrence? Or is this likely unrelated (maybe just addressing the underlying physical reason, and hopefully overall her improving health)?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

Would successful use of an acute homeopathic remedy help prevent recurrence?

absolutely it can! homeopathy is really never just a band-aid. IF it helps in the instance but it always comes back and with little improvement, then you need a deeper remedy. However if it addresses the issue well then you'll see just what you are seeing...fewer episodes further apart and with less severity. It was a good remedy. I've no doubt that everything else you have been doing helped it along though.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

absolutely it can! homeopathy is really never just a band-aid. IF it helps in the instance but it always comes back and with little improvement, then you need a deeper remedy. However if it addresses the issue well then you'll see just what you are seeing...fewer episodes further apart and with less severity. It was a good remedy. I've no doubt that everything else you have been doing helped it along though.

Yay! I'd be okay if it weren't at all related to the other stuff (nice that it may be), but that's a really nice argument for me figuring this stuff out and expanding my toolbox.

[Panserbjorne]

I hear ya! But its still likely it is. Homeopathy to work at it's fullest potential requires a solid terrain. It can catalyze healing, but that healing can only go so far if the proper building blocks (nutrition) aren't present. The body needs the correct tools to repair itself...homeopathy just gives it a nudge in the right direction.

I have an acute story from today. My youngest started coughing last night. Really icky sounding cough that was clearly uncomfortable for him. I gave him pulsatilla at 30c which shifted things slightly. Enough to let him sleep. He awoke this morning rested, but still coughing. Now his nose was running and the discharge was yellow. He had some irritability, crankiness and was very chilly, so I gave him the pulsatilla at 200C. Things got much better for awhile but then his mood declined and he started coughing and pouring snot again. I could have done the 200C again and it would have worked, but he's been in a very pulsatilla place recently and I thought (for a variety of reasons) that he'd be better served by going up. I used a 1M and his cough disappeared, his nose isn't running at all and he's been an absolute darling to be around. His demeanor is greatly improved. He's sleeping soundly now.

So that's an example of the correct remedy having a better action in a different potency. My boys, like me (unlike dd who is 100% her father's child) do much better at high potencies. I posted a while back about an ear infection ds2 had. chamomilla 30C didn't do much and he just screamed uncontrollably, 200C was better and let him rest-though not for long and he was still weepy, and 1M allowed him to sleep. An adjustment the next morning cleared it completely. Had I changed the remedy because the potency wasn't correct I probably wouldn't have gotten any relief for him.

Now, you don't necessarily NEED to have really high potencies on hand. I find that if I have a lower potency when I need a higher one, I can get by with frequent dosing. So in both instances I could have used 30C successfully if I had been aggressive about it. I know my kids and had the ability to just go up, so I did.

[lil_miss_understood]

DS3's red cheek showed up and I had to dose about 3 hours apart with chamomila 6c. Both times, his puffiness and redness has subsided and he's subsequently nursed to sleep nicely.
Is it okay to dose him that frequently, assuming the red cheek returns? I can probably call my ND tomorrow for a higher dose and/or pick one up at the local herb store (but they were sold out of it last time, which is why I got the lower dose).

[Panserbjorne]

If you are asking me, heck yeah. Acute dosing can be very frequent. The key, in my opinion is watching the kiddo. Dose when needed. If he was uncomfortable and there were indications to dose, you dose. I wouldn't do it just because-but neither did you. The redness went away with the first dose and he fell asleep. then the situation cropped back up again and you dosed-once again the redness dissipated and he felt more content. Perfect way to handle it IMO.

The way you get in to trouble with remedies is giving it often when it's NOT needed. As long as it's needed the body will use it. That's how I see it, anyway.

The red cheek returning is a warning. I wouldn't dose (personally) until he seemed uncomfortable. A red cheek is nothing more than a red cheek without any complaining.