Acute Homeopathy Study Group thread - Page 11

[FireWithin]

ThanksTanya

My first exposure to energy testing was through an ND. She got quite a bit wrong, but some things right.
Max max max max max maxwell James (mom can you write my name so I can feel happier?)

After that experience I felt a little distrustful. It was a process to finally try it. I wouldn't have done it without mtn mama. It is worth trying it and just having fun with it.

Sam, right before bed started complaining of a her bad headache. I gave him cal carb. He then complained of an extreme stomach ache. I went to get my book, kit and pendulum. When I came back he was asleep. He tested for colocnthis. Since he was asleep I put it in his ear.
He woke upnthis morning a little warm and week. He just developed some rash like marks on his face. Very intriguing.
I woke up last night feeling weak and dizzy and am enjoying lying down right now.
Let's see what the day brings.

[dancebaraka]

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[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

I expected you to say "he!! no, don't do this!" so now I'm intrigued. And I'm not asking for a binding, official-type answer, so yeah, just as a friend.

There are all different schools of thought out there. I am of the, "this is a perfect medicine for families and nothing to be afraid of. If it isnt' the right remedy it's not going to hurt anything." Yes, there are times when things can go wrong in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are doing, but it's generally not going to happen with a few doses of a 30C remedy. If you are hyper-reactive then you will notice, but it's not like any long term damage will be done.

You learn most things by doing, yes? This is no exception. You aren't going to be likely to make any major shifts as you'll be dealing

Muscle testing or pendulum testing would be a great place for you to start. No money out of your pocket, nothing invested but some time and you don't need to listen until you feel confident. It really allows you to tap in to your own intuition and I highly recommend it.

There are many different ways to ask about things and that's more where the skill lies. But again, you learn as you go.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

I keep thinking I should learn to muscle test, I just haven't done it. I definitely believe it can be accurate, I haven't looked into the specifics of what to do to actually try it for myself, and I'm not sure I'll get it right. Our old chiropractor (old city) got things _mostly_ right for me and the kids, but I think he missed one type of reaction, and I'm assuming he wasn't thinking broadly enough about all the ways a food can mess with a person. And actually, the chiro who took over his practice after he moved missed the same food (gluten) and I know it's bad for me. So I guess the reason I haven't pursued this is because I don't know how to figure out if I'm asking well (except trial-and-error, of course).

The person who taught us how to muscle test is a ... what is she... biorhythms, smudging, her mother reads palms and cards... not sure what all that is called. Anyway, she said you have to ask the question right. Simon stands there with his feet together. He holds the food or supplement in his hands at the height of the solar plexus. He closes his eyes and says "Will I react badly if I eat this food?" Forward is yes. Backward is no. He wasn't with me when my friend told me. So I came home and started taking stuff out of the fridge and handing it to him and making him do them over and over again. He said "What are you doing?" I told him after we'd already done about 30 foods and they'd all come out exactly the same as his intolerance testing (except for potato, which was wrong on the intolerance testing, but right on his muscle testing). So his "react badly" is encompassing of all his bad reactions. It seems like it would work with homeopathy as well, no? The osteo uses it to determine appropriate supplements and whether DS will react to them, so it seems like it should work the same way with homeopathy. Am I right in thinking that or doesn't it work the same way?

[Panserbjorne]

kathy, that's what I call dowsing which is different, but the same principle. You can absolutely do it that way.

[kjbrown92]

then what is the difference between dowsing, kinesiology and muscle testing? I thought it was all the same thing.

[Panserbjorne]

they are all accessing the same energy. Dowsing can be done with a tool, or with your body. It's exactly what you described. It's the same idea as those people that use the dowsing rods looking for water. The energy (or answer) pulls you in a specific direction.

Kinesiology *can* describe dowsing (it doesn't for me but I doubt there's a right or wrong here) but generally it refers in my training to engaging muscles against resistance. I frequently use the deltoid because it's strong and locks readily. For this I have someone hold out an arm and apply gentle pressure against which their degree of resistance speaks volumes. There are more "degrees" that can be measured in this way, at least in my opinion. And, frequently the person can tell before the pressure is applied which is interesting for them. The idea here is that your strength is increased by things that are beneficial for you. And you can absolutely feel the difference in strength which has nothing to do with "fitness."

I also pendulum test, which I find to be very reliable. That again, uses a tool, but the energy is all the same.

There are a number of other ways you can test, through sutures in the skull, spinal fluid etc. It's just a matter of what you are comfortable with and what you find that you read better.

[tanyalynn]

Originally Posted by kjbrown92

then what is the difference between dowsing, kinesiology and muscle testing? I thought it was all the same thing.

And is using a crystal or pendulum of some sort different? Is the difference in names due to the physical accoutrements, or something else?

Kathy, that was a nice, detailed, helpful description. I think I'm going to look up MtnMama's video at naptime today and finally watch it.

ETA: cross-posted with the answer to the question.

[kjbrown92]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

Kinesiology *can* describe dowsing (it doesn't for me but I doubt there's a right or wrong here) but generally it refers in my training to engaging muscles against resistance. I frequently use the deltoid because it's strong and locks readily. For this I have someone hold out an arm and apply gentle pressure against which their degree of resistance speaks volumes. There are more "degrees" that can be measured in this way, at least in my opinion. And, frequently the person can tell before the pressure is applied which is interesting for them. The idea here is that your strength is increased by things that are beneficial for you. And you can absolutely feel the difference in strength which has nothing to do with "fitness."

That's how my naturopath did it while waving her hand in front of the different homeopathy remedies. When she found the one she wanted, she looked and was really surprised. Then read the description and was still really surprised. And said to try it. Nothing happened at all. She did the same thing a second time. And it didn't work. She also told me I had no problem with gluten. Yet when I test me (pendulum or muscle test), I find lots of answers. So is it all in the practitioner?

Now I need to go to a place that sells remedies and hold every bottle to see what will work! Though I don't want to use it for acute care I guess. Just regular remedy, but I'm assuming you can test the same way, right?

[Panserbjorne]

I'm confused....your naturopath did what? Dowsing?

And yes, different people *can* have different abilities in this area for sure. I think though a lot of it though is how you ask the questions.

[FireWithin]

My brand new baby niece is having colic issues. Her lower gi seems to be "ok" still mustardy seedy poop. Her problem is upper gi.
I just spoke to my sil about ideas. She knows I'm the go-to person for allergies. We talked about food removal, which she is going to try. She found gripe water today. The baby has gained well the past two weeks but the doc thinks too well. He is asking her not to nurse more than once every two hours. I didn't negate that but suggested if the baby still wanted to nurse, to nurse her on her dry side. Mom doesn't seem to have an oversupply problem.

The doc is suggesting zantac for her pain. We spoke about it and I tried to be neutral. I spoke about why I chose not to three years ago and other things that I would have used for my son if I knew about them. I really stressed that it was an individual family decision.

So I am thinking of sending her some remedies to try. I am working really hard on being neutral, but supportive. Last time I saw her I talked about how homeopathy is really helping my family. I just spoke about how it is helping my mom, whom I believe has a hiatal hernia.
So I thought I would send some to her with a little info, as an option. I was thinking of sending the following: cham, coloc, mag phos, bry, lyco (this is what my mom is using with huge success), carbo v, nux v any that won't be necessary? Any other suggestions? how about RR? any other flowers?

[sunnysandiegan]

Wow! I read the whole thread!

I have used homeopathy a little bit and flower essences quite a bit more. I have seen various practitioners who use muscle testing and pendulums. I have always been very curious about this sort of thing and would love to hang out and learn more.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo

My brand new baby niece is having colic issues. Her lower gi seems to be "ok" still mustardy seedy poop. Her problem is upper gi.
I just spoke to my sil about ideas. She knows I'm the go-to person for allergies. We talked about food removal, which she is going to try. She found gripe water today. The baby has gained well the past two weeks but the doc thinks too well. He is asking her not to nurse more than once every two hours. I didn't negate that but suggested if the baby still wanted to nurse, to nurse her on her dry side. Mom doesn't seem to have an oversupply problem.

The doc is suggesting zantac for her pain. We spoke about it and I tried to be neutral. I spoke about why I chose not to three years ago and other things that I would have used for my son if I knew about them. I really stressed that it was an individual family decision.

So I am thinking of sending her some remedies to try. I am working really hard on being neutral, but supportive. Last time I saw her I talked about how homeopathy is really helping my family. I just spoke about how it is helping my mom, whom I believe has a hiatal hernia.
So I thought I would send some to her with a little info, as an option. I was thinking of sending the following: cham, coloc, mag phos, bry, lyco (this is what my mom is using with huge success), carbo v, nux v any that won't be necessary? Any other suggestions? how about RR? any other flowers?

Yikes....so much to say here....
How is the milk transfer? Is she actually nursing or benefiting from an the letdown and growing on sugar? You wouldn't necessarily see green stool if that's the case. And clicking noises while nursing? How often is she stooling? What's his theory on restricting feeding?

Anyway, the remedies you selected are a great place to start. Cham generally has greenish and shreddy stool, but it can still work. Nux more often than not is constipated, but again....could still work. It does have a rubric for the pain due to overindulgence. Lyco is a great choice as is colocynthis and carbo veg *especially* if the stool looks normal and it's more gas pain, or griping in the belly.

Look for the timing of the pain as well as what she wants during an "attack." Does she feel better if she's carried? lying down? Does she want to nurse? Is it usually after a feed, during a feed or on an empty belly? Does she make any sounds? Is she sweating as she's crying? These are all helpful things to know.

I would also do a castor oil pack-no question. She can put RR in it too. For babies (if you have to buy something anyway) I prefer Emergency Essence to Rescue Remedy and see wonderful things....but both work. To target the digestive issues I love paw paw, spinifex and crowea for that kind of belly pain...and bottlebrush is good too. For the Bach flowers impatiens, beech, agrimony, crab apple and cherry plum can be good choices as well.

The nice thing about all of these is that even if she went the meds route they are still safe. I would though, if you have hte option focus a bit on mom too....the babies issues (whatever they may be) are likely an extension of hers.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by dancebaraka

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Hey mama! Sorry I didn't reply to you yesterday....I thought about you last night though! (Often things I read will pop back up as I'm trying to go to sleep) and had some thoughts. I thought I had posted some of them earlier, but apparently I never actually sent the post I was writing. I hope you didn't feel ignored! Anyway...if you are still around I had some ideas of things to look at!

[dancebaraka]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

Hey mama! Sorry I didn't reply to you yesterday....I thought about you last night though! (Often things I read will pop back up as I'm trying to go to sleep) and had some thoughts. I thought I had posted some of them earlier, but apparently I never actually sent the post I was writing. I hope you didn't feel ignored! Anyway...if you are still around I had some ideas of things to look at!

oh goodness thank you !

i actually cut&paste my post into the other homeopathy thread- i thought however "acute" this experience is feeling for me right now it really isn't acute homeopathy, so i thought maybe it fit better over there.

i would welcome gratefully any thoughts/impressions you are having !

[tanyalynn]

I'm hoping for some help figuring out the best way to approach my problem. Still DD, coughing til she vomits. I thought this would be done by now. Basically once a day, varying times of day, though the past two days it's been after she's in bed. Occasional headaches lately. Ipecac seemed to help a couple days, then by yesterday it clearly wasn't, I'm not giving her any more.

How do I figure out if this is something I should mostly approach with homeopathy (and what do I try next?), vs a more tangible approach? This is my big question, between the rambling/whining.

I'm really feeling out of my depth. I wish I had a local, broad-approach HCP. I've got specialists locally, but the HCP who knows the most about us is 4 states away, we do phone consults, which is probably my next bet. But that'll be a few days, and if it's herbs, that will be a few more days.

[Plaid Leopard]

hi-

I haven't read the whole thread but am popping in with a question.

Two of my dc sometimes get sudden onset headaches with low-grade fever, which last anywhere from a couple of hours to a day or so. Usually they end up vomiting once, and then the fever and headache go away. I treat the headaches with massage, ice packs, lavender oil etc

What would be the appropriate homeopathic remedy for this type of situation?

Also, tonight my dd was complaining of stomach pains, and then headache and dizziness. She was slightly feverish, but wanted to be under lots of covers. She didn't want me to touch her belly, but did want me to rub her head. After about an hour I gave her aconitum and within 10 minutes she had a rather violent vomiting session, then was all better, and fell asleep.

Did the remedy bring on the vomiting, or was that coincidence?

TIA

[momofmine]

Originally Posted by TanyaLopez

I'm hoping for some help figuring out the best way to approach my problem. Still DD, coughing til she vomits. I thought this would be done by now. Basically once a day, varying times of day, though the past two days it's been after she's in bed. Occasional headaches lately. Ipecac seemed to help a couple days, then by yesterday it clearly wasn't, I'm not giving her any more.

How do I figure out if this is something I should mostly approach with homeopathy (and what do I try next?), vs a more tangible approach? This is my big question, between the rambling/whining.

I'm really feeling out of my depth. I wish I had a local, broad-approach HCP. I've got specialists locally, but the HCP who knows the most about us is 4 states away, we do phone consults, which is probably my next bet. But that'll be a few days, and if it's herbs, that will be a few more days.

Call PB!!! I will PM you right now. Absolutely, I think you need someone with experience to prescribe for a cough that lingers. She is awesome and does phone consults. We have had so much success with acute remedies with her knowledge. In my experience, it can change immediately with the right remedy AND the right dosage/frequency. But you really need the combination of those things.

I seriously have used homeopathy for the last ten years, but in the back of my mind I always doubted it. I WANTED to believe it worked, but in my experience I just had not seen results. I really wondered if it actually worked or not. In the past year or so, that has completely changed. I have seen the most amazing results, things that could not possibly be attributed to "placebo effect". Things that changed instantly within an hour of taking a remedy. And things that even got WORSE from being aggravated by a remedy (but then cleared up after calling my practitioner back and changing the dose). Both PB and another homeopath MD I have seen locally have had this effect on my experience. I am truly amazed. I thought homeopathy "sounded" wonderful before, and always wanted it to work, but now I know it does. It is amazing. However, I really do think it takes more than the right remedy at times. For acute, straightforward stuff, maybe it's not as important. But for some things, it is very important. Like giving the remedy often enough in the beginning. I had better results when I started giving the remedy every 15-30 minutes for the first 3-4 doses when I was self-prescribing for something acute, using 30C.

Good luck, keep us posted. Call PB!

[momofmine]

Originally Posted by Plaid Leopard

hi-

I haven't read the whole thread but am popping in with a question.

Two of my dc sometimes get sudden onset headaches with low-grade fever, which last anywhere from a couple of hours to a day or so. Usually they end up vomiting once, and then the fever and headache go away. I treat the headaches with massage, ice packs, lavender oil etc

What would be the appropriate homeopathic remedy for this type of situation?

Also, tonight my dd was complaining of stomach pains, and then headache and dizziness. She was slightly feverish, but wanted to be under lots of covers. She didn't want me to touch her belly, but did want me to rub her head. After about an hour I gave her aconitum and within 10 minutes she had a rather violent vomiting session, then was all better, and fell asleep.

Did the remedy bring on the vomiting, or was that coincidence?

TIA

Wow, that's interesting. I don't know. Sometimes I think things do get a bit worse and then get better, like the body was needing to purge something. I have to say again that for something chronic that tends to recur, I think you sometimes need someone with experience to prescribe. With the most recent episode you described though, I would have probably done the same thing, looked in my books and tried to find the remedy that matched the best, and given that. Did she continue to get better after that?

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by Plaid Leopard

hi-

I haven't read the whole thread but am popping in with a question.

Two of my dc sometimes get sudden onset headaches with low-grade fever, which last anywhere from a couple of hours to a day or so. Usually they end up vomiting once, and then the fever and headache go away. I treat the headaches with massage, ice packs, lavender oil etc

What would be the appropriate homeopathic remedy for this type of situation?

Also, tonight my dd was complaining of stomach pains, and then headache and dizziness. She was slightly feverish, but wanted to be under lots of covers. She didn't want me to touch her belly, but did want me to rub her head. After about an hour I gave her aconitum and within 10 minutes she had a rather violent vomiting session, then was all better, and fell asleep.

Did the remedy bring on the vomiting, or was that coincidence?

TIA

I'd say you did pretty darned well. That's exactly what I would expect to have happen. What normally takes several hours to several days was resolved rapidly following it's normal path. The remedy you gave provided relief far sooner than had you not given it.

The remedy didn't bring on the vomiting so much as it kicked the body into gear to resolve it in a timely fashion. Aconite was a good remedy for this situation and it was a great call.

Since it's recurring I would tend to suggest getting to the root of the problem (is it hormonal? exacerbated by certain foods? etc.) but now you have a handy little tool until you can.