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post #221 of 864
Tanya,
has it changed at all? Or is it the same and now ipecac at that potency isn't touching it?
post #222 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Tanya,
has it changed at all? Or is it the same and now ipecac at that potency isn't touching it?
Maybe there's a bit less lower level coughing spread out throughout the day, but the coughing fits are still as intense as they were. The last couple days, the fits are only happening after she's in bed in the evening, but since this is basically a 1x/day problem (though last night it was a few times in a short time period), I don't know if the timing is significant. I don't remember her mentioning headaches the first few days of this.

When I cross-referenced coughing fits and vomiting in my book, I only saw 2 remedies, so I didn't consider anything other than bry and ip, and I'm not sure if one would help a tad, when really a third (that I didn't consider) would've truly been best back then.

She seems normal and happy/healthy otherwise.
post #223 of 864
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Maybe there's a bit less lower level coughing spread out throughout the day, but the coughing fits are still as intense as they were. The last couple days, the fits are only happening after she's in bed in the evening, but since this is basically a 1x/day problem (though last night it was a few times in a short time period), I don't know if the timing is significant. I don't remember her mentioning headaches the first few days of this.

When I cross-referenced coughing fits and vomiting in my book, I only saw 2 remedies, so I didn't consider anything other than bry and ip, and I'm not sure if one would help a tad, when really a third (that I didn't consider) would've truly been best back then.

She seems normal and happy/healthy otherwise.
Could it possibly be pertussis? That is how I have read pertussis is after the initial stages. Coughing fits that end in vomiting, sometimes, as little as once per day. Child appears happy otherwise, no fever.

Not that it necessarily matters, I mean at this point there's probably not much different you'd do with that information. It just occurred to me that it sounded a lot like that type of cough.
post #224 of 864
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
When I cross-referenced coughing fits and vomiting in my book, I only saw 2 remedies, so I didn't consider anything other than bry and ip, and I'm not sure if one would help a tad, when really a third (that I didn't consider) would've truly been best back then.
The thing about the books is that there is sometimes a remedy that is specific for your exact situation, but not specific for coughs, but winds up being the right remedy. I have had the homeopath prescribe a remedy that, when I went and looked it up, said NOTHING about what I was calling in about. That is because what you can read in basic books and online is really like a fraction of the information on that remedy.
post #225 of 864
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Could it possibly be pertussis? That is how I have read pertussis is after the initial stages. Coughing fits that end in vomiting, sometimes, as little as once per day. Child appears happy otherwise, no fever.

Not that it necessarily matters, I mean at this point there's probably not much different you'd do with that information. It just occurred to me that it sounded a lot like that type of cough.
I wish it were, I could make a plan for that. WC's gonna happen sometime and knowing I'm dealing with it now would just be like checking it off my pre-existing checklist. But the things that make me think it's not: undervaccinated 5yo DD coughing like this, and unvaccinated 3yo DS not having significant coughing issues (and he's not the picture of amazing unvaccinated health ), I'm not coughing as much as I expect I will when I get WC either.

It's an appealing option, that WC would be so mild for us, but I just don't see that happening, not when I'm realistic. I expect us all (at least the three of us, no bets on how DH does) to be fairly miserable. I'm not counting on a classic whoop, but I'm thinking more general misery spread around a bit more.
post #226 of 864
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The thing about the books is that there is sometimes a remedy that is specific for your exact situation, but not specific for coughs, but winds up being the right remedy. I have had the homeopath prescribe a remedy that, when I went and looked it up, said NOTHING about what I was calling in about. That is because what you can read in basic books and online is really like a fraction of the information on that remedy.
Yeah, that's why I mentioned it (not that I read up on a huge list of cough-related things, even, and eliminated everything but bry and ip). I may need to look into finding someone locally who knows acute dosing (or try to set up a phone consult, considering that, good idea, just need to settle a few hours before I make decisions, I'm feeling off-balance by this).
post #227 of 864
I know, it's hard.

It really throws me too at times. I really do think you would feel better if you had someone with experience to help you devise a plan, so hopefully that works out.

I wouldn't discount that it's not whooping cough. From what I've read, it seems like plenty of people who eat SAD and are not the picture of health have mild cases of it and never know they have it. So

Hope things are looking up for you guys today.
post #228 of 864
Our cough after the flu reminded me of my asthmatic cough. Years ago I thought I had bronchitis. I went to the doctor and he told me I was having an asthma attack. An inhaler took care of it. My son and I developed this cough after the flu. I approached our remedy with that in mind. I think I looked up wheezing (even though that really was the top issue), and looked up a couple of other things. For us, the remedy was spongia. Maybe thinking outside the box a little. Plus, as mentioned elsewhere,, this might be a good place to pendulum test. Do you have to go to the store and buy the remedies? You don't have a kit yet? That makes it a little harder. good luck.

eta: the think outside the box comment sounded too much like a chide. that's not what I meant. Thinking of using homeopathy is totally thinking outside the box.

is the cough productive?
post #229 of 864
Tanya- how did the day go? Things looking any better?


Ok... now I need some help for myself. This past weekend, while traveling, I had an allergic reaction to something environmental. It started with really itchy eyes, little bit of sneezing, stuffy nose at night, slight tightness in chest. I've been home now for 5 days, and this reaction just won't let go. My eyes are fine now except for a little itch here and there. My major complaint right now is that my throat/roof of mouth is SO ITCHY. It's driving my insane. I have actually reached my hand in a couple times tonight and scratched it with my fingernails it is so bad. (I know... ew.) I'm having a little nasal congestion, worst in evening, but nothing I can't live with. The itchy throat is about to drive me insane though.

Hot liquids help the itch go away. Other than that, I haven't noticed anything that makes it better/worse. I am feeling generally blah today, and can't seem to get warm.

Oh- and I've also had 2 canker sores pop up over the last 3 days, and they are really painful today- to the point I couldn't eat dinner without wincing with each bite (I gave up after a few bites.) No idea if these are related to the reaction or not.

TIA!!
post #230 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Yikes....so much to say here....
How is the milk transfer? Is she actually nursing or benefiting from an the letdown and growing on sugar? You wouldn't necessarily see green stool if that's the case. And clicking noises while nursing? How often is she stooling? What's his theory on restricting feeding?

Anyway, the remedies you selected are a great place to start. Cham generally has greenish and shreddy stool, but it can still work. Nux more often than not is constipated, but again....could still work. It does have a rubric for the pain due to overindulgence. Lyco is a great choice as is colocynthis and carbo veg *especially* if the stool looks normal and it's more gas pain, or griping in the belly.

Look for the timing of the pain as well as what she wants during an "attack." Does she feel better if she's carried? lying down? Does she want to nurse? Is it usually after a feed, during a feed or on an empty belly? Does she make any sounds? Is she sweating as she's crying? These are all helpful things to know.

I would also do a castor oil pack-no question. She can put RR in it too. For babies (if you have to buy something anyway) I prefer Emergency Essence to Rescue Remedy and see wonderful things....but both work. To target the digestive issues I love paw paw, spinifex and crowea for that kind of belly pain...and bottlebrush is good too. For the Bach flowers impatiens, beech, agrimony, crab apple and cherry plum can be good choices as well.

The nice thing about all of these is that even if she went the meds route they are still safe. I would though, if you have hte option focus a bit on mom too....the babies issues (whatever they may be) are likely an extension of hers.
thanks for the response. I am going to order the things, and use your response for part of the info.
Many things are going on with the mom. She has severe fibroids which were removed to allow conception. Her uterus looks like gravel now. Facial hair, difficult time loosing weight, known for lots of gas, lactose issues in the past, I think I am forgetting something.
the baby has a posterier tongue tie, that even I could see. The lc in the hospital suggested she do tongue exercises with her. The baby also clicks while nursing. Could the tongue tie cause colic? I introduced the idea of clipping, and mentioned if the doctor thought she wasn't gaining weight well to consider clipping. Weight gain isn't an issue anymore.

I will try to ask mom these questions and look for the answers. Is there anyplace on the web that will guide me specifically for baby homeopathy?

I really want to help, but I am trying to use this situation as a lesson to me that this isn't my help journey. It is my sil's journey and I don't want to be too pushy.
post #231 of 864
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eta: the think outside the box comment sounded too much like a chide. that's not what I meant. Thinking of using homeopathy is totally thinking outside the box.
You harpie you! You're so mean to me! Sorry, that struck my funny bone, I totally didn't interpret it in a bad way.

I have very few remedies in the house, none except the ipecac that would be useful. Washington Homeopathics told me end of November for their kits, so hopefully they'll really get them ready by then. I need to figure out the crystal, but I also think I need to get better at linking things in a different way. I always loved science classes, but I still remember 8th grade science, geology, where I was totally clueless at matching the rocks with the written descriptions. I think it's because it's not a simple checklist--most rocks are pretty hard, so it's only occasionally that some are soft or some are super hard and that matters. Mostly hardness doesn't matter. And mostly color doesn't matter--gray, lots of gray, but sometimes color _does_ matter. Homeopathy seems a lot like this to me right now, except I've got more motivation to figure it out than I do about geology.

And I think it would be easier if I were the one coughing. Anyway, I PM'd for some advice, so we'll see how this goes. I'm slightly less off-balance than I felt yesterday.
post #232 of 864
CS So sorry for the reaction, no ideas from me. And ah, no, today was worse, I'm confused but less panicky than last night.
post #233 of 864
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
I wish it were, I could make a plan for that. WC's gonna happen sometime and knowing I'm dealing with it now would just be like checking it off my pre-existing checklist. But the things that make me think it's not: undervaccinated 5yo DD coughing like this, and unvaccinated 3yo DS not having significant coughing issues (and he's not the picture of amazing unvaccinated health ), I'm not coughing as much as I expect I will when I get WC either.

It's an appealing option, that WC would be so mild for us, but I just don't see that happening, not when I'm realistic. I expect us all (at least the three of us, no bets on how DH does) to be fairly miserable. I'm not counting on a classic whoop, but I'm thinking more general misery spread around a bit more.

Late to the game here...sorry! I had a crazy day yesterday. Anyway, I wanted to respond to this. Dh and I were both vaxxed as kids and we did get WC last year. None of our dc's (totaly unvaxxed) had anything more than a mild cough that lasted a month or so. I had to stay WAY on top of dh and I and if I slacked we were in misery...not able to talk without coughing fits, vomiting as a result etc. Anyway I kept saying no WAY was it pertussis because my kids didn't get it. Apparently that's not the case. Who knows if they have immunity at this point, but regardless, don't discount it.

Ipecac was my remedy, drosera was dh's. I also took arnica, ruta and bryonia concurrently because of the discomfort. Ipecac was a high potency regularly and the ARB was high potency as well, just twice a day. It was like magic.

I also did nutritional intervention which was a great help with the wheezing. Vitamin A and vitamin C were both huge helps at that time.
post #234 of 864
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Originally Posted by TanyaLopez View Post
I also think I need to get better at linking things in a different way.
so my advice, if you want to do this on your own is to obtain a materia medica with repertory. This allows you for a very small price ($15ish) to cross reference and get the feeling of the remedy. That way you can look up the symptom in the rep and then flip back and read all the remedy descriptions to see what fits. For instance, above CS talks about an itchy throat made better by drinking hot things, as well as canker sores. If cross reference both in the repertory you get a list of remedies. Two big ones are apis and causticum both of which we can throw away because in the remedy picture the modalities both say WORSE for heat in all forms. Spongia, however is better for warm drinks, has the itchy throat and the sores on mouth and tongue. That's a better choice...it may not be THE choice, but it's higher up than the other two.

You can usually find Boericke on amazing used, but you can also go to www.minimum.com and find it there. I recommend the Indian edition. You'll get lots of cook info in there. It's called Pocket Manual of Homeopathic Materia Medica and Repertory. It's in the top sellers list. That you should definitely be able to get for under $20 including shipping.

ETA: I just looked and it's $9.43 plus shipping.
post #235 of 864
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Originally Posted by Mammo2Sammo View Post
The baby also clicks while nursing. Could the tongue tie cause colic?
Abso-freakin-lutely. That click is the seal between the tongue and breast tissue being broken which allows the baby to swallow air. Number one cause of colic right there. A remedy may help deal with the results, but really it's a mechanical issue.
post #236 of 864
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Originally Posted by changingseasons View Post
Ok... now I need some help for myself. This past weekend, while traveling, I had an allergic reaction to something environmental. It started with really itchy eyes, little bit of sneezing, stuffy nose at night, slight tightness in chest. I've been home now for 5 days, and this reaction just won't let go. My eyes are fine now except for a little itch here and there. My major complaint right now is that my throat/roof of mouth is SO ITCHY. It's driving my insane. I have actually reached my hand in a couple times tonight and scratched it with my fingernails it is so bad. (I know... ew.) I'm having a little nasal congestion, worst in evening, but nothing I can't live with. The itchy throat is about to drive me insane though.

Hot liquids help the itch go away. Other than that, I haven't noticed anything that makes it better/worse. I am feeling generally blah today, and can't seem to get warm.

Oh- and I've also had 2 canker sores pop up over the last 3 days, and they are really painful today- to the point I couldn't eat dinner without wincing with each bite (I gave up after a few bites.) No idea if these are related to the reaction or not.

TIA!!
Okee dokee....is it a cold that was brought on by increased susceptibility due to allergies? Was that the exciting cause? If it's STILL allergies then you could try histaminum. However, didn't I read somewhere that the sores came on after another remedy? Nat mur maybe? Off to find out....
post #237 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Late to the game here...sorry! I had a crazy day yesterday. Anyway, I wanted to respond to this. Dh and I were both vaxxed as kids and we did get WC last year. None of our dc's (totaly unvaxxed) had anything more than a mild cough that lasted a month or so. I had to stay WAY on top of dh and I and if I slacked we were in misery...not able to talk without coughing fits, vomiting as a result etc. Anyway I kept saying no WAY was it pertussis because my kids didn't get it. Apparently that's not the case. Who knows if they have immunity at this point, but regardless, don't discount it.

Ipecac was my remedy, drosera was dh's. I also took arnica, ruta and bryonia concurrently because of the discomfort. Ipecac was a high potency regularly and the ARB was high potency as well, just twice a day. It was like magic.

I also did nutritional intervention which was a great help with the wheezing. Vitamin A and vitamin C were both huge helps at that time.
So you just completely overturned my expectations. I've figured DH and I may get the cough that's not obviously WC (though I wasn't counting on it, better to be prepared for misery and then it's better than that) but I was sure the kids would be miserable. That has implications for Thanksgiving travel that I need to figure out, darn. But it is a more appealing explanation than any I've come up with on my own.

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so my advice, if you want to do this on your own is to obtain a materia medica with repertory. This allows you for a very small price ($15ish) to cross reference and get the feeling of the remedy.
I'm not aiming quite this high yet. I don't even think I can do a great job describing the issue to someone else (hint hint--check your email). But I'll keep this in mind for some day when I think I have gotten some competence. Right now, the homeopathy book I have lists stuff like that (in the back, it lists cough, and then: at night or intense fits, or sporadic, stuff like that with lots of remedies which I then go to the main part of the book to read a section on) and even with what's probably an easier-to-use version, I'm still having trouble.
post #238 of 864
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Right now, the homeopathy book I have lists stuff like that (in the back, it lists cough, and then: at night or intense fits, or sporadic, stuff like that with lots of remedies which I then go to the main part of the book to read a section on) and even with what's probably an easier-to-use version, I'm still having trouble.
Nothing in my email at this point, but I'll watch out.

A MM is going to be more technical, but it will also give you a broader picture. Definitely something to keep in mind!
post #239 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjørne View Post
Nothing in my email at this point, but I'll watch out.

A MM is going to be more technical, but it will also give you a broader picture. Definitely something to keep in mind!
Ack! Resending, I sent yesterday afternoon!
post #240 of 864
Hello everyone,

Working my way through this thread and the other one. Homeopathy was something I thought I probably should get a kit and a book to have on hand, just in case Well just in case has arrived and I have neither

DD is 6 months old and has her first cold - my 20 mo. niece was visiting last weekend and had the sniffles and barky/rattly cough. There was much passing of toys around and spit. By Sunday night, dd was a teeny bit congested. Monday during the day I could hear the congestion, but nothing major. Monday night things went down hill - very congested, glassy eyes, rectal temp of 100.4 (normal 100.2 or lower) in the morning, could feel her head get hot and then cool down, cold hands and ears though, watery eyes, sneezing, cranky, very congested, difficult time nursing and settling down to sleep because of it, etc. She's also drooling a lot from teething, altho not as much today.

I can tell she's feeling better personality wise yesterday and especially today, she's smiley and pretty content today, her eyes look much better, not watery or glassy the past couple days, she was actually able to sleep in bed with me last night and breathe pretty clearly for the majority of the night until I rolled her on her other side to nurse (since Tuesday night she's been sleeping primarily in her cradle swing which keeps her at a slight angle and the rocking motion helps soothe her). But yesterday evening she had the occasional rattly cough and I'm hearing it occasionally today. For whatever reason, the cough freaks me out.

Her biggest frustration/distress is from the congestion still (although it is improving) - if she's sleeping and going through a stuffy bout she'll rub her eyes/nose, turn her head side to side, and cry out a little, very well soothed by the hum of the electric toothbrush during this - settles her right down back to sleep 99% of the time.

Right now I'm noticing her right cheek is red and her left is pale - thought at first it was from nursing with her right cheek on my arm, but she's been sitting for several minutes and it's still red. She's still sounding pretty congested off and on, like the snot shifts and then she can breathe again and then it shifts and she has to snort a bit to find clear breathing.

The mucous was occasionally pale yellow, but predominantly clear and thick. A steamy shower doesn't seem to do a whole lot to open things up and get it moving, we have better luck actually getting her in the tub to splash - seems to loosen things up enough that I can use the snot sucker to get some out. She's been nursing well today. I have been doing breastmilk up the nose and she's overdue for that at the moment, that seems to help.

I guess my question is, is there something I should/could do homeopathy wise? Or are things progressing just fine and I shouldn't mess?

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