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post #821 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post

  Did you also test 6 or 8x?



I think you mean 6 or 8 times, right?

I've tested a couple times, 4 or 5, will test few more times. Each time I get very strong positive response.

 

eta: I just checked Helios online store, do they ship from England? Are Helios remedies available in US?

post #822 of 864

no, sorry.  I mean the potency.  If you test 50M and 6x what comes up?

post #823 of 864

6x and 8x tested negative

 

I keep testing in lots of different ways and I'm getting strong response to giving 50M without doing the gradual increase of potencies although slowly increasing the potencies will be fine too. I think 50M is important for DS's gut healing. I'm not sure what to do.

post #824 of 864

PB, I've made a mistake earlier, I forgot to check what my yes looks like(for some reason it keeps changing all the time), calc carb 6X tested positive now. Why would I need to give DS 6X and 50M? 

post #825 of 864

The reason I was asking is that I kept coming up for 6x as being better.

 

So, this is more foundational.  This is going to affect the physiology directly.  What I would do is spend a month or so doing 6x 3 times a day and then see what things looked like.  50M is really high, and can cause quite an aggravation if you aren't careful. 

 

The problem with testing this way is you are limited to what you know.  All of us are.  So if you're asking if 50M is going to be helpful, or even necessary, and you get yes, I'm not disputing that it would be.  However there could be steps that need to be taken before then and that's harder to test.

 

Also it could be that it would be very helpful right now, but that it would ALSO cause a massive aggravation.  The two aren't mutually exclusive, so you have to be careful there.  We are looking for the minimum dose, the totality of symptoms and the gentlest path possible.  Not everyone actually adheres to that and many homeopaths like seeing aggravations.  I don't.  But that doesn't mean someone won't test well for something that's going to aggravate-does that make sense?

 

Also you have to be pretty dead on if you're using potencies that high.  You may well be, but I'd want a stronger foundation in place, just in case.  If a practitioner gave a 50M they'd know what they were looking for and how to stop a reaction if necessary.  They'd also have a good idea of what needed to be stopped vs. what is a good response.  I'm not trying to be fear based, I don't believe that's generally necessary with homeopathy.  However when you're talking 50M's I get a bit more cautious.  Pendulum testing is wonderful...but as I said the issue is that you are limited by the questions you are asking.

post #826 of 864

I'm having a bit of trouble over here.  On Friday DD developed a high fever.  Lethargic.  Lasted most of the day.  I gave her ferrum phos cell salts and then some belladona 30c at night.  Woke up the next day without a fever & seemed to feel much better.  Continued the cell salts.  Later in the day the fever came back.  Kept on with cell salts & the belladona.

 

Woke up this morning.  No fever.  But very grouchy & disagreeable.  Very sensitive.  Even moreso than usual.  She sounds like she has swollen glands in her throat although she says her throat only hurts a little.

 

Where do I go from here to get this poor girl back on track.  She's miserable.

post #827 of 864


 

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Originally Posted by chlobo View Post

I'm having a bit of trouble over here.  On Friday DD developed a high fever.  Lethargic.  Lasted most of the day.  I gave her ferrum phos cell salts and then some belladona 30c at night.  Woke up the next day without a fever & seemed to feel much better.  Continued the cell salts.  Later in the day the fever came back.  Kept on with cell salts & the belladona.

 

Woke up this morning.  No fever.  But very grouchy & disagreeable.  Very sensitive.  Even moreso than usual.  She sounds like she has swollen glands in her throat although she says her throat only hurts a little.

 

Where do I go from here to get this poor girl back on track.  She's miserable.

I'd stay with ferrum phos as a cell salt, but I'm wondering about pulsatilla instead of belladonna.  can you talk more about how she's acting, how she's feeling and what she wants?  (cold water, cold food, hot water, hot food, cool air, blankets etc.)
 

post #828 of 864
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Originally Posted by Panserbjorne View Post

The reason I was asking is that I kept coming up for 6x as being better.

 

So, this is more foundational.  This is going to affect the physiology directly.  What I would do is spend a month or so doing 6x 3 times a day and then see what things looked like.  50M is really high, and can cause quite an aggravation if you aren't careful. 

 

The problem with testing this way is you are limited to what you know.  All of us are.  So if you're asking if 50M is going to be helpful, or even necessary, and you get yes, I'm not disputing that it would be.  However there could be steps that need to be taken before then and that's harder to test.

 

Also it could be that it would be very helpful right now, but that it would ALSO cause a massive aggravation.  The two aren't mutually exclusive, so you have to be careful there.  We are looking for the minimum dose, the totality of symptoms and the gentlest path possible.  Not everyone actually adheres to that and many homeopaths like seeing aggravations.  I don't.  But that doesn't mean someone won't test well for something that's going to aggravate-does that make sense?

 

Also you have to be pretty dead on if you're using potencies that high.  You may well be, but I'd want a stronger foundation in place, just in case.  If a practitioner gave a 50M they'd know what they were looking for and how to stop a reaction if necessary.  They'd also have a good idea of what needed to be stopped vs. what is a good response.  I'm not trying to be fear based, I don't believe that's generally necessary with homeopathy.  However when you're talking 50M's I get a bit more cautious.  Pendulum testing is wonderful...but as I said the issue is that you are limited by the questions you are asking.


PB, thank you so much for the advice   love.gif  

 

I'm also afraid of massive aggraviations with 50M, especially when giving it on my own, doing 6X 3 times a day for a month to build a strong foundation sounds a lot better. Is calc carb 6X like a cell salt or should I dissolve it in the water? Will any brand be OK?

post #829 of 864

you'd be using it as though it were a cell salt.  there's a physiological affinity there.  So yes, I'd just dissolve it in water.  Pretty much any brand would be fine.

post #830 of 864

Well when she's not feverish she seems to be a little on the colder side.  Not freezing or anything.  And she is very undecided.  Like she'll ask for something to eat or drink.  Take a bit and then say its tastes funny & won't eat it.  Now a couple of things I think *did* taste funny (we used some different ingredient to make it) so I don't know if "tasting funny" is really a characteristic.  This morning she said there was something gurgling in her throat after she swallowed.  Yeah, real specific.  ON Friday night she had a night terror (hasn't had one in months) and this time she walked in her sleep.  Even more unnerving that usual.

 

About the fever.  It seems to get worse late in the day and then break sometime overnight.  Last night she came to sleep with me and she had no fever when she did so.  She also couldn't get back to sleep.  She's had a nice long epsom salt bath each day and she definitely seem to feel better after taking the bath.  In fact, I went out to the store and when I came back she'd finished her bath and actually asked for "pizza" (GFCF, of course) and now she's eating it with no complaints of "tasting funny."

 

Oh, the behavior.  At first it was really weird.  She was very placid.  Now I know people are lethargic when they get fevers but this was a little different from just lethargy.  She was very agreeable and sort of sweet.  Like out of character agreeable and sweet.  That person seems to have left the building and now we're left with an extreme version of her usual self.  So, how do I term this nicely, challenging.  Her brother looks at her and she screams "don't look at me".  Whereas usually it take a little prodding before she screams at him.  It's almost like she's hungry kind of behavior (which is the extreme version of her normal behavior).  And she hasn't eaten much so that could be it.

 

But this morning was interesting.  She's been watching a lot of TV since she's so tired.  Normally, the kids get to watch a half hour on weekend mornings so DS wanted to watch his show.  Well DD didn't want him to watch because she didn't want to watch TV and hearing him watch would make her want to watch.  She didn't want to watch b/c watching TV makes her more tired.  She actually wanted to do something.  So although something hasn't materialized, she's generally just laying around, although not watching TV.

 

Is that enough information?
 

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I'm having a bit of trouble over here.  On Friday DD developed a high fever.  Lethargic.  Lasted most of the day.  I gave her ferrum phos cell salts and then some belladona 30c at night.  Woke up the next day without a fever & seemed to feel much better.  Continued the cell salts.  Later in the day the fever came back.  Kept on with cell salts & the belladona.

 

Woke up this morning.  No fever.  But very grouchy & disagreeable.  Very sensitive.  Even moreso than usual.  She sounds like she has swollen glands in her throat although she says her throat only hurts a little.

 

Where do I go from here to get this poor girl back on track.  She's miserable.

I'd stay with ferrum phos as a cell salt, but I'm wondering about pulsatilla instead of belladonna.  can you talk more about how she's acting, how she's feeling and what she wants?  (cold water, cold food, hot water, hot food, cool air, blankets etc.)
 

post #831 of 864

chlobo - Your daughter sounds like my daughter did last month when she was ill! The "very agreeable and sweet" comments cracked me up because I know just what you mean!!!! lol.gif  My DD is quite healthy ordinarily, so bioplasma alone helped her tremendously. That might not work for others, though.

post #832 of 864

I might just do ferrum phos at 30c with those indications.  She's definitely more pulsatilla than belladonna...but she's not squarely pulsatilla either.   I'd just do ferrum in 6x and 30c for now.

post #833 of 864

6x being the cell salt?  30c being the homeopathic prep?

 

I'll try that in the morning.  She wanted to go to bed early tonight.  Yesterday, she napped and then had trouble sleeping so I think going to bed earlier is better.  Still pretty listless overall.

 

When I told her that she should go to sleep and feel better in the morning she said "we'll see.  We won't know until then."  Very pragmatic child.

post #834 of 864
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Originally Posted by chlobo View Post

6x being the cell salt?  30c being the homeopathic prep?

 

I'll try that in the morning.  She wanted to go to bed early tonight.  Yesterday, she napped and then had trouble sleeping so I think going to bed earlier is better.  Still pretty listless overall.

 

When I told her that she should go to sleep and feel better in the morning she said "we'll see.  We won't know until then."  Very pragmatic child.

proof that apples don't fall far from the tree!

 

Yes, the 6x is the salt.  30c is the homeopathic.
 

post #835 of 864
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Originally Posted by mellowjello View Post

I am new to this thread but currently using homeopathy and understand you need to match physicals, mentals, totality of symptoms, but wondering if there is a remedy that might be appropriate for the dominant feeling of frustration, rage, panic, and despair, or feeling trapped/powerless because others in power have an incorrect perception that there is nothing wrong when actually there is and they won't listen to you (not a delusion). This is specifically related to my daughter's health and trying to get help for her. It relates to the Cassandra Effect sometimes experienced by neurotypical partners of a person with Aspergers Syndrome.



I bought some Red Chestnut Bach flower drops. "Remedy for people who feel fear for the well-being of others " I haven't noticed anything yet.

 

I tried Rhus Tox and it is amazing for me. Started 6C. "He feels persecuted by something and he doesn’t know why" "she has the feeling to be locked up in her own house, her own street, feeling a enormous anger and hate. She has a strong tendency to take her belongings and to leave everything behind her" Feeling trapped, wanting escape. "She has the impression to be locked up, that she is shouting, but nobody can hear her and there is no escape." Unseen/unheard. "In some cases we have to start with this remedy when there is a severe trauma as incest, sexual abuse, torture, imprisonment or any threatening situation." Relates to PTSD.  http://www.tinussmits.com/3873/rhus-toxicodendron.aspx

 

It is also helping with my inflammation and toothache.

 

WOW!!!!! Homeopathy rocks, is all I have to say.

post #836 of 864

Wow.  So she woke up in the middle of the night and the fever was gone (at least for the moment).  Problem was, she couldn't go back to sleep so was up for the next two hours.  She started to complain b/c she was snoring (= congestion) and didn't like it.  Finally went back to sleep.  Woke up this morning a TOTAL bear.

 

She's been crying that she can't breath b/c her nose is block even when she blows it and she hates snoring.  She's just "off".  Again, like she needs to eat.  Clearly irrational.  Guess I better go look up "congestion" remedies, although I"m concerned she might have something bacterial so we're going to the doctor to check her lungs.

 

Anything that will thin mucus and help clear congestion?  Maybe an herbal?

post #837 of 864

now we look at pulsatilla.

post #838 of 864


 

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Originally Posted by mellowjello View Post



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Originally Posted by mellowjello View Post

I am new to this thread but currently using homeopathy and understand you need to match physicals, mentals, totality of symptoms, but wondering if there is a remedy that might be appropriate for the dominant feeling of frustration, rage, panic, and despair, or feeling trapped/powerless because others in power have an incorrect perception that there is nothing wrong when actually there is and they won't listen to you (not a delusion). This is specifically related to my daughter's health and trying to get help for her. It relates to the Cassandra Effect sometimes experienced by neurotypical partners of a person with Aspergers Syndrome.



I bought some Red Chestnut Bach flower drops. "Remedy for people who feel fear for the well-being of others " I haven't noticed anything yet.

 

I tried Rhus Tox and it is amazing for me. Started 6C. "He feels persecuted by something and he doesn’t know why" "she has the feeling to be locked up in her own house, her own street, feeling a enormous anger and hate. She has a strong tendency to take her belongings and to leave everything behind her" Feeling trapped, wanting escape. "She has the impression to be locked up, that she is shouting, but nobody can hear her and there is no escape." Unseen/unheard. "In some cases we have to start with this remedy when there is a severe trauma as incest, sexual abuse, torture, imprisonment or any threatening situation." Relates to PTSD.  http://www.tinussmits.com/3873/rhus-toxicodendron.aspx

 

It is also helping with my inflammation and toothache.

 

WOW!!!!! Homeopathy rocks, is all I have to say.

I'm sorry.  I was on the run and should have been more thorough in my recommendation.  Red chestnut is for people for whom their worry about others gets in the way of their lives.  Like people when their husband is 10 minutes late home they start freaking out that they've been in an accident, or if their child falls out of bed they spend days obsessing that they have a concussion even when practitioners say they're fine.  They just can't focus on anything but their concern for others.  It's still a good choice, but the thing is that you HAVE something to worry about and your problem isn't the worry, it's that no one is listening or helping.

 

I'd be looking more at impatiens, cherry plum, willow and holly.

 

Rhus tox is also a good choice-you just need to be more judicious with it's administration.  Also pay attention to new symptoms that are cropping up as you are using it.  See the thing with homeopathy is that a large number of remedies have those mentals, and while rhus tox may be helpful in alleviating them, unless the physicals match too it wouldn't be a great choice to stay on it for a long period of time.  However you chose a perfect potency so you more likely than not have plenty of time.

 

Flowers only have to match mentals to work and you can stay on them.

 

You did a great job though and please keep us updated!
 

post #839 of 864

Uh oh.  Doctor thinks it might be strep throat.  Sigh....

 

Will do some puls until I hear about abx or not.

post #840 of 864

Thanks PB! I do have a lot of the physicals of Rhus Tox but just curious of others that come to your mind with the same mentals. Thanks again!

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