going for win for 3...

[hipumpkins]

In fighting the fight against circ I did save twin boys (with MUCH help from this board) and I lost one one..
I am going in again...
Firing up the emails...copying links and quotes and bible verses (Thanks always to Yoshua)
Wish me luck folks. Mom is 22 weeks along and she does not want to circ but the DH very much does. Mom asked me for info. she is a nurse who has seen it firsthand and is horrified. she has also seen mistakes take place so I am not sure what I have in bookmarks that will work for her but I am giving all I've got!

[fruitful womb]

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[Night_Nurse]

Originally Posted by hipumpkins

... Mom is 22 weeks along and she does not want to circ but the DH very much does. Mom asked me for info. she is a nurse who has seen it firsthand and is horrified. she has also seen mistakes take place so I am not sure what I have in bookmarks that will work for her but I am giving all I've got!

Interesting! Most of the nurses on this board and the ones I know IRL don't circumcise.
It sounds like the issue is with the dad. Maybe she could have him watch an infant circ video or the Penn and Teller episode.
Remind mom about the risk of MRSA with circs (it might not have been as prevalent then when she was in nursing school) and how sometimes breastfeeding doesn't go as well after the circ.
Plus, I don't think any medical organizations world wide recommend routine circs. At least they didn't last time I checked.
And mom can always just say no to the procedure.
As for links, I'll pm you one.

[Nandi]

Did you give her the intact care info, and to not retract? How about that link on how to understand the issue from a Dad's emotional perspective?

[perspective]

Originally Posted by Nandi

Did you give her the intact care info, and to not retract? How about that link on how to understand the issue from a Dad's emotional perspective?

I think she is doing a great job, and that Circed Dad's "perspective" article is not even written by a circed man, so its not really a "perspective piece" at all. Although it hold some truths, its a sloppy attempt at trying to understand the complexities men when they come upon this issue. And in the end may cause more problems then good since it simplifies the emotions, thoughts, and cultural beliefs of a circed man, all coming from an outsiders perspective.


But OP, you should try and focus on the Dad, and if you can find out his concerns, and post them here we can help you out!

[jessjgh1]

she is a nurse who has seen it firsthand and is horrified. she has also seen mistakes take place

Is THAT not enough???!!!!!
I honestly cannot say more w/o going off.
Jessica

[fruitful womb]

Originally Posted by perspective

I think she is doing a great job, and that Circed Dad's "perspective" article is not even written by a circed man, so its not really a "piece at all. Although it hold some truths, its a sloppy attempt at trying to understand the complexities men when they come upon this issue. And in the end may cause more problems then good since it simplifies the emotions, thoughts, and cultural beliefs of a circed man, all coming from an outsiders perspective.


But OP, you should try and focus on the Dad, and if you can find out his concerns, and post them here we can help you out!

You make a good point perspective. I've seen you mention this about that article many times.

This article is the only resource that gives women dealing with adamant husbands who want so badly to cut their ds's penis, an outlet for relief. More than likely, she can get back into their dispute and successfully solve it. I've seen it done.

Since you're circ'd and you're so talented when it comes to writing and your logic has always been respected, why don't you write an article about this very issue. ???

It could then become another resource for us.

[hipumpkins]

Originally Posted by jessjgh1

Is THAT not enough???!!!!!
I honestly cannot say more w/o going off.
Jessica

That is exactly why I am worried that all the links and quotes wont do the trick. I am not sure but I think they have the type of marriage where the husband is considered head of the household and gets to make the final decisions.
she did say, "I'll have to come up with a way for him to *think* it was his idea"
they are very strict Catholics so i did send her the Catholic pages.

[Nandi]

Originally Posted by perspective

I think she is doing a great job, and that Circed Dad's "perspective" article is not even written by a circed man, so its not really a "piece at all. Although it hold some truths, its a sloppy attempt at trying to understand the complexities men when they come upon this issue. And in the end may cause more problems then good since it simplifies the emotions, thoughts, and cultural beliefs of a circed man, all coming from an outsiders perspective.


But OP, you should try and focus on the Dad, and if you can find out his concerns, and post them here we can help you out!

I know you don't like the article, but I think it is a way for women to TRY to understand the complicated emotions he is going through, and perhaps from one of the ideas find a jumping off strategy to be able to talk to hubby about, without hurting his feelings. I definitely think you should write one from a guy's perspective, it would be really helpful.
Here are the articles in question.

http://www.udonet.com/circumcision/v...ty_of_men.html

http://www.noharmm.org/feminist.htm

Personally I find them helpful to see how some men may feel. I know if it were me I would just be extremely pissed, so it's hard for me to understand why more guys aren't really angry about it.