THE Iodine Thread - Page 3

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by chlobo

Do Lyme patients do Salt & C flushes together? That sounds rather harsh to me. I always thought they just drank salt/c water throughout the day.

I don't know. I'm unclear on the specifics of salt & C flushes. I know that Lyme patients following the salt & C protocol take massive doses of both salt & C many times throughout the day.

Can you tell me (or link me) the specifics of salt/c flushes?

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by aris99

what's blue ice?

A brand of cod liver oil. *Fermented* Blue Ice is currently the only brand of CLO that doesn't use synthetic vitamins. (AFAIK)

[Theloose]

Dd is 2.5, but still nurses a lot. I'm hoping that this will be one of the last pieces of the puzzle, though, so hopefully that frequency will drop pretty soon.

Thanks for clearing up some of the nursing stuff. I was getting scared from reading the iodine list, but it sounds like that could have been largely just an issue of we don't know so don't do it.

So how important is the loading test? Or can we just assume we're deficient and start supping? Is it really useful to have that starting value to come back and compare?

[Metasequoia]

Originally Posted by whoMe

So how important is the loading test? Or can we just assume we're deficient and start supping? Is it really useful to have that starting value to come back and compare?

whoMe, you keep asking all of the same questions that I have!

[Theloose]

I'm reading about salt flushes for bromide here:
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html
and have to ask... Are there any extra issues with salt flushes while nursing that we know of?

[WuWei]

Jane, I would love to hear more info about why NOT to choose organic kelp or dulse which has been tested free of heavy metals, instead for the iodine. Those absorb/bind with heavy metals in the large intestine, from my understanding; and help to excrete it, in addition to the whole food benefits AND iodine. Seems to 'kill two birds with one stone' as it were: iodine and helps with the (released/circulating) mercury/heavy metal stores (bromides too?). I'm not completely clear on the physiology of it. But, I'm just a whole foods gal.

Pat

[FireWithin]

Pat - do you know if the natural sources have both iodine and iodide? That would be an important consideration.

[mom61508]

great questions!!!! I'm waiting on my liquid dulse now.

[Theloose]

Just ordered Dr Brownstein's book.

[MyLittleWonders]

Thanks for starting the thread Jane and all the information! Dh and I started Iodoral a few weeks back - 1/2 pill each. I am now up to 2 pills a day; he is stuck at 1 (apparently, I didn't tell him I was increasing each week ). We also do magnesium (and I've realized how deficient we are as we can both do 600 mg at bedtime with no bowel tolerance), CLO, fish oil (for extra omega 3), vitamin D, B-complex, and extra C. The one thing we don't have is extra selenium (only what we take in our multi, which, I think, is 125 mcg). So, I might add extra selenium.

I have a feeling my boys need iodine supplementation given my history. They are almost 8, 5 1/2, and almost 3. The youngest is still nursing 2x a day, so he is probably getting some through me. How should I start with them? Should I get the liquid Iosol because it is such a low dose, and start them slowly to see how they respond? They all get selenium through their multi (Brainchild Nutritional for the younger two and a smaller dose of the same multi dh and I take for my oldest). They also get CLO (when I remember ) and magnesium (again, when I remember), and take extra S.A. during the day.

For me, hypothyroidism (or, shall I say highly suspected as my tests always came back "normal") is "genetic" - both my mom and her mom have suffered from the symptoms most of our lives. I am working on getting my mom on iodine; her otherwise alternative minded MD prescribed her Synthroid recently.

Thank you again for the thread.

[Panserbjorne]

Have things changed? As far as I know the loading test is 25 mg, not 50. One pill of Iodoral is 12.5 mg. The loading test uses 2. At least it always did.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by aris99

Did anyone get pins and needles and twitching/spasms w/iodine? I woke up w/pins and needles in my hand, muscle twitching in my hand and a headache...the headache subsided w/mag...is this iodine/potassium related or something else? I'm taking 2 iodoral in the am and 2 in the pm. I wish we could all amass our experiences w/iodine supplementation....a spreadsheet w/how much we're taking, what else we're taking and our symptoms....I know I know who has the time...*sigh*

Are you just starting? that's a pretty high dose off the bat. generally people work up to that. If you are just starting unless you have been advised otherwise you might think about backing down and working your way up.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by MyLittleWonders

For me, hypothyroidism (or, shall I say highly suspected as my tests always came back "normal") is "genetic" - both my mom and her mom have suffered from the symptoms most of our lives.

So many things that people assume are genetic are simply inadequate stores being handed down. Seems like you may be able to break this "genetic" issue!

[MyLittleWonders]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

So many things that people assume are genetic are simply inadequate stores being handed down. Seems like you may be able to break this "genetic" issue!

Most definitely! That is why I like to use "genetic" in quotes; I don't think that most things are truly genetic.

[Jennemiah]

Just adding my 2 cents... I first started looking into iodine supp because of a fibroadenoma I'm trying to shrink before considering another pregnancy (my midwife advises me to "take care of it" but I am not wild about the idea of surgery, especially while still breastfeeding my 18mo DD). Also because I am originally from the midwest, where iodine deficiency is apparently even more common. So after reading a lot of the research, I ordered myself some Iodoral and worked my way up over the course of a few weeks to 50mg/day. Have been at that level for 2 months now. So far I haven't really had any detox symptoms, and I have been feeling great. One unexpected benefit was that DD's eczema (flare-ups are tied to food allergies, but she had a very mild baseline that I couldn't get to go away even with a careful diet) finally completely went away! (We have also been seeing a homeopath, so we've had a lot of improving in general lately, but I am pretty sure that the eczema clearing was solely due to the addition of iodine.)

I am thinking about doing the loading test soon to see how close I am to "sufficiency", since I'd like to go down to a maintenance dose before getting pregnant - I just don't see enough research on high doses during pregnancy, but I can convince myself that 12.5mg/day during pregnancy is ok based on that being the average amound consumed by Japanese women. I have an appointment (couldn't get in until July) to see a local ND who has experience with iodine supplementation, and I will probably ask him to ordering the loading test for me.

One question I do have - I thought full strength Lugol's solution was only available with a prescription. Is that true? My understanding is that it's much cheaper than Iodoral, but that it tastes awful. So I'm considering trying to get ahold of some just to see if I could stand it and save a few $$.

Not sure yet if it's helping with my fibroadenoma...might need to give it a little longer, apparently it can take awhile.

Jenn

[Theloose]

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

Have things changed? As far as I know the loading test is 25 mg, not 50. One pill of Iodoral is 12.5 mg. The loading test uses 2. At least it always did.

This site says 50mg
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/loading.html

But it looks like Doctor's Data has a test where your doctor can decide the appropriate loading dose.
http://iodine4health.com/ortho/iodin...st_sources.htm

[farmerjess]

This thread is so so timely and perfect, thank you Jane. I just got a hypoT diagnosis and waiting to see if I have hashis. I am currently on Armour, but I would love to support my body to make it's own thyroid hormone.

For anyone interested in Bromide Testing, Stephanie, the owner of the Iodine Yahoo group rec's this lab:

http://hakalalabs.com/

[Panserbjorne]

interesting!

[chlobo]

Originally Posted by whoMe

I'm reading about salt flushes for bromide here:
http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iprotocol.html
and have to ask... Are there any extra issues with salt flushes while nursing that we know of?

I'd love to know too

Originally Posted by Metasequoia

I don't know. I'm unclear on the specifics of salt & C flushes. I know that Lyme patients following the salt & C protocol take massive doses of both salt & C many times throughout the day.

Can you tell me (or link me) the specifics of salt/c flushes?

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/drshevin.html

http://www.perque.com/pdfs/Pt_Ascorbate_Slush_FIN.pdf

So one flushes fluid and the other flushes solids.

Originally Posted by Panserbjørne

Have things changed? As far as I know the loading test is 25 mg, not 50. One pill of Iodoral is 12.5 mg. The loading test uses 2. At least it always did.

Only for you, PB, would I look through the trash (and to satisfy myself that I did read correctly). The little envelope that had the pill in it says Iodoral 50mg. So the dose they sent was 50 mg but it was only one pill.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by chlobo

Only for you, PB, would I look through the trash (and to satisfy myself that I did read correctly). The little envelope that had the pill in it says Iodoral 50mg. So the dose they sent was 50 mg but it was only one pill.

: I appreciate it! Off to look now. I haven't seen it offered in 50 mg pills. That's good info to have!