P.S. Jane, what did you mean about different detox pathways?
Not as far as I can discern. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromide
|When bromine is added to a spa it's in the form of bromide ions|
|A bromide ion is a bromine atom with charge of −1.
Compounds with bromine in formal oxidation state −1 are called bromides, and each individual chemical in this class can be called a bromide, as well.
|The bromides of calcium, sodium, and zinc account for a sizable part of the bromine market.|
|BROMIDE IN PRODUCTS
Potassium bromate as an additive to most commercial bread and baked
goods probably provides the most egregious contribution to bromide
overload in Western cultures.
|Iodine belongs to a class of elements called "halogens".
In addition to Iodine, the common halogens are fluorine (F), chlorine (Cl), and bromine (Br). Halogens form a single column of the periodic chart and all require exactly one additional electron to fill their outer electron shells.
The halogens are diatomic molecules in their natural form; e.g., molecular iodine (I2), fluorine (F2), chlorine (Cl2), and bromine (Br2).
Halogens are often found in salts. A salt is a compound that forms positive and negative ions when dissolved in water. The halogens have a tendency to form single negative ions when dissolved. The negative ion is called a halide ion; e.g., iodide (I-), fluoride (Fl-), chloride (Cl-), and bromide (Br-).
|Seaweed also concentrates other halides such as bromide, which possess goitrogenic, carcinogenic and narcoleptic properties (1). Seawater is very poor in iodide and relatively rich in bromide with 0.05 PPM iodide and 70 PPM bromide. There is 1400 times more bromide than iodide in seawater.
|Concerning iodide goiter, Wolff stated: "The most common form of iodide goiter is that seen in Hokkaido." The Japanese authors investigating the Hokkaido goiter did not think iodide was the cause of the thyroid enlargement since Japanese subjects from Tokyo without goiter excreted similar levels of iodide in their urine.9,10 Excess goitrogens in the diet of those subjects could explain their normal thyroid function in the presence of goiter, and this problem has since been solved. In 1994, 27 years after the original publication by Suzuki, et al,9 Konno, et al11 stated: "Kelp-induced endemic goiter was reported to occur in the coastal regions of Hokkaido nearly 30 years ago. Such goiter has now disappeared." Please note that Konno, et al called it "kelp-induced goiter".
|Bromine is a member of the halide family of elements, which includes fluorine, chlorine, and iodine, and the reduced forms, bromide, chloride, fluoride, and iodide.
Iodine is necessary for the production of thyroid hormone. And chloride, a common ingredient of salt, is necessary to keep the fluid inside and outside of your cells in balance.
But the other two halides, fluoride and bromine, are both carcinogens and have no therapeutic value (the idea that fluoride prevents tooth decay is more marketing hype than science). I recommend avoiding both.
|Question: I went into a vitamin store to check out iodine supplements and was told it came only in the form of kelp. Could you tell me if this is true and how much kelp to take?
Dr. Brownstein's Answer:
Kelp can be a good source of iodine plus other phytonutrients. However, kelp also can present some problems. I analyzed a kelp supplement from a leading manufacturer and found it was contaminated with extremely high levels of arsenic. When I tried to contact the manufacturer about the issue, they were not interested in my findings. If you are going to use kelp or any sea vegetables in order to increase your iodine load, it is important to ingest a product that is grown in a pure area. That is hard to do, considering the level of pollution in our oceans. Also, iodine can sublimate, that is, change into a gaseous form and evaporate into the atmosphere. How much can evaporate from a kelp supplement? No one knows the answer, but I would guess that, the longer the product is away from the ocean, the more iodine has left the product.
Having said that, I feel that, if your goal is to increase your body’s iodine levels, it is best to take a reliable supplement. In my view, two forms of iodine meet that criteria: Iodoral and Lugol’s iodine. More information about iodine can be found in my July 2008 newsletter and online at www.drbrownstein.newsmax.com.
So, I should assume that it could be bromides that are coming out of my saliva glands and should probably not swallow it, right? Should I assume that the overactive saliva glands are a bad thing? It was really annoying and I had to repetitively hold cold water in my mouth to calm down my tongue and not feel like I was drowning in saliva. If that makes sense...
Does anyone have the link to the iodine related Yahoo group that I have seen mentioned here?
Also, can someone link me to the sea vegetables/bromines/bromides warning?
Thanks so very much ladies!
Has anyone tried nascent iodine? I have been taking it for a while with good results. My energy is much better. Overall, I feel much better, but I have also been taking dessicated porcine thyroid, too, so it's hard to tell how much is from the iodine vs. thyroid.
It can be bought from Nutrimedical.com
Iodine Yahoo group link here (and lots more info on this site as well)
I'm really not sure re: the saliva. I would post to the Yahoo group and see what kind of answers you get there, lots of very knowledgable people using iodine.
The chemistry of a negative charge changes its oxidative state in the body. Just as iodine is different than iodide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iodide
Heavy metal tested kelp is commonly available.
I have looked at that iodine but have yet to purchase iodine something keeps holding me back. I have hashis so maybe that 's why iodine scares me. I'm wondering If anyone has heard good things about nascent. I wonder what the difference is between nascent and iodoral or lugols
Yes, and both can displace iodine by attaching to the iodine/iodide receptors all over the body.
And therefore there is not bromide tested kelp, the issue is not just metals with seaweeds.
Something I'm SERIOUSLY excited about....!!!
Just found out our raw milk dairy uses the traditional practice of disinfecting their cow's udders with iodine.
Which means our milk/cream/butter/cheese all has high amounts! I swear I had thought that it did since I am so sensitive. I felt like I noticed how my body would respond to eating a lot of it on some days.
Honestly I could cry with happiness knowing how well DS does on it.
And maybe he will not have the thyroid issues it seems like both sides of the family are plagued with.