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post #21 of 54
I am so thrilled with this! I've always fried but have noticed lately that the redness goes away very quickly (within hours or the day). I never got the CO connection, but now I'll be sure to up both mine and my girls' intake.
post #22 of 54
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Originally Posted by AJP View Post
I also definitely don't burn as easily after switching to good fats and getting rid of refined, high-PUFA veg. oils (about 7 years ago). I used to burn relatively easily, I'm rather fair skinned, but now I don't burn easily at all, and tan well. It takes over an hour in mid-day sun on skin with no base tan before I get burned, and even then it heals quickly (I try not to let it happen, but tend to lose track of time when I'm gardening or something, in the spring before I have much tan). It's not just CO, I don't eat much of that anymore, I think it's all kinds of saturated fats from quality sources (not sure about monounsaturated) and fat-soluble vitamins that can help skin be more resilient.
Making a big leap here... so maybe this is the way we are *supposed* to be, and eating all the industrial oils and taking good fats out of our diet has triggered the problems that we have and increased the likliehood of skin cancer? Does anyone know the stats of skin cancer 30, 50, 75, 100 years ago, etc?

My dh & I were talking last night, and he was asking me why when he was a younger kid he could spend so much time at the pool without sunscreen and not burn... he's a red-head. But as he got older, he started burning more. He ate a really junky diet as a teen (but was always super skinny until his early 20s) that included chips, Mt. Dew and Twix bars... the latter two would be the first thing he ate around 2:30 when he was in high school (no breakfast, no lunch, just Mt. Dew and Twix bars after school during his after school activity.) I have to think that maybe what he ate earlier wasn't as loaded with industrial oils or was better, but as he got older his food choices caught up with him?
post #23 of 54
I saw the less-burning change just in the past couple months, but for me it's taken almost 2 years since I changed my diet. There's an interesting blog on health matters and a few entries are on polyunsaturated fats in general, and omega-3/omega-6 imbalance in particular. Apparently fats in our bodies have about a 2-year half life, so it can take a while to swap out enough to see an improvement, and I wonder if some of it is dependent on current diet and omega-3 intake. Since I don't eat any seafood and haven't taken CLO myself, just give it to the kids, I'm probably on the slower end of the spectrum.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/search?q=sunburn

Betsy, he has some citations from older research and other studies on animals.
post #24 of 54
I am noticing this as well! I didn't even think about it until I read this post but then I thought about it, and I am tanning really nicely this summer and haven't had a burn yet. Which is unheard of for me. I also noticed at least two times when I was out at my moms and others were getting eaten up by bugs and I wasn't which is VERY unheard of for me.

Granted I just now got bit by a mosquito but still... Progress...

Subbing to this thread.
post #25 of 54
I have heard many times that sunburns are directly related to the sun reacting with the oils in your body and have always hoped to come across some articles on the topic. It makes sense- if you are consuming oils that have a lower heat tolerance and become dangerously altered when you cook with them, then they would also react negatively when you are "cooking" in the sun. I have heard of many fair skin folks that no longer burn once they upped the clo, co, and butter.
post #26 of 54
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Originally Posted by BetsyPage View Post
Making a big leap here... so maybe this is the way we are *supposed* to be, and eating all the industrial oils and taking good fats out of our diet has triggered the problems that we have and increased the likliehood of skin cancer? Does anyone know the stats of skin cancer 30, 50, 75, 100 years ago, etc?

My dh & I were talking last night, and he was asking me why when he was a younger kid he could spend so much time at the pool without sunscreen and not burn... he's a red-head. But as he got older, he started burning more. He ate a really junky diet as a teen (but was always super skinny until his early 20s) that included chips, Mt. Dew and Twix bars... the latter two would be the first thing he ate around 2:30 when he was in high school (no breakfast, no lunch, just Mt. Dew and Twix bars after school during his after school activity.) I have to think that maybe what he ate earlier wasn't as loaded with industrial oils or was better, but as he got older his food choices caught up with him?
This is exactly what I try to teach others!
I think I am formulating an article for our co-op newsletter now!!!
post #27 of 54
Some ladies on here had mentioned this and I experimented these past couple weeks with VCO.
I'm happy to say that both of my children and I are nicely tanned with no burning I used the VCO topically, and I have been using it in my cooking for awhile. Not quite 2 years yet, but we're getting there :
post #28 of 54
Add me to this list! I use to burn really easily. Since switching to really good coconut oil on a daily basis, I tan well, and when I do burn, it doesn't get bad, doesn't peel, and goes away quickly. I have had one minor burn this season, and it was gone the next day. I am out mowing alot, gardening alot, and am not using a ton of sunscreen, so it's GOT to be the CO! :

I buy mine from Mountain Rose Herbs, and it's around $40 for a gallon. A gallon does last quite a while, though!

Oh, I've also been buying the Oskri coconut bars, too. We eat those (about a half a bar a day or every other day or so), and I know there's TONS of CO in them since my fingers are very oily after touching them, lol.
post #29 of 54
Thread Starter 
Well, I have been using coconut oil for 3 years, on/off, with more off than on... and in increasing amounts over the past 6 months... I've been using butter for years, though... but it's really only been in the past 3 months that I've been serious about reducing/eliminating industrial oils. I have also taken CLO in the past. So I guess I'm quicker to see some improvement... it would be nicer if there would be even more protection over time!

PaulaJo- I'd love to see your article once you write it.
post #30 of 54
Thread Starter 
Oh! and i tried the coconut fudge recipe... soooo yummy! My 3 yo likes it, but not my 5 yo though. But that's OK, I'm keeping it in the freezer, in small pieces, will be a nice treat for me and the youngest. You really can't eat large pieces though, it will make you feel sick (well, me anyway...)
post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by MrsTittlemouse View Post
I have heard many times that sunburns are directly related to the sun reacting with the oils in your body and have always hoped to come across some articles on the topic. It makes sense- if you are consuming oils that have a lower heat tolerance and become dangerously altered when you cook with them, then they would also react negatively when you are "cooking" in the sun. I have heard of many fair skin folks that no longer burn once they upped the clo, co, and butter.
ooh, I love how you put that, it makes complete sense!
post #32 of 54
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Originally Posted by BetsyPage View Post
Making a big leap here... so maybe this is the way we are *supposed* to be, and eating all the industrial oils and taking good fats out of our diet has triggered the problems that we have and increased the likliehood of skin cancer? Does anyone know the stats of skin cancer 30, 50, 75, 100 years ago, etc?
This is what I believe. It makes no sense to me at all that humans, regardless of skin color, would be unable to tolerate sun exposure. I think if we're eating a natural, nutrient-dense diet we have innate protection. I don't have stats, but I think the rising rates of skin cancer are because of a growing distance from the kind of foods we need to keep our bodies in good repair. Industrial foods do not provide the nutrients we need and include all kinds of toxins, leaving us vulnerable to so many diseases. I put skin cancer on the same list as all the other modern diseases, a symptom of the utterly unnatural food systems most people have become dependent upon (as well as the toxic load of the modern world).

I believe we need sun exposure, not only for vit. D synthesis but for many other bodily functions also related to hormones and metabolism.
post #33 of 54

article draft

Ok Ladies, help me flesh it out! It can't be to much longer then this, but please take it and "fix" what you feel needs fixing.
I am not a good writer, but I do my best.
I know I may not have finished out a few points as well.
I have to have it ready by Thursday.
And, I may enter it for consideration in Wise Traditions as well.......

ETA: What I need, after thinking about it, is a short version for the newsletter, and long and more technical version for WT.

Quote:
Are Sunburn and Skin Cancer a Modern Day Phenomenon?

In today’s society, we are accustomed to the warnings about sun exposure and the threat of skin cancer. We worry about getting burned, and do everything we can to make sure we cover all exposed skin with sunscreen.
We are convinced that the sun causes great harm.
I used to worry about it myself. I would find myself in front of the mirror, checking for any possible changes.
If I did spend time in the sun, without sunscreen, I would turn bright red. I remember burning so bad after a morning at the beach, that I was unable to lay down to sleep.

About a year ago, we began our journey into Traditional Foods.
We got ourselves a copy of Nourishing Traditions, and began changing how we viewed food.
We changed how we shopped for it, and how we prepared and ate it.
Processed foods no longer found there way into our shopping cart and cupboards.

If you were to open our cupboards and refrigerator up, you would find the following foods in them.
Raw milk, raw butter, high vitamin cod liver oil, whole grains, extra virgin olive oil, expeller pressed coconut oil, palm oil, celtic sea salt, organic dent corn, bottles of Kombucha, raw honey, wild game, good vegetables, etc.

No longer will you find things like vegetable oils and processed sugars and flours.
Those things do not belong in a body that was designed to eat real food.
Vegetable oils are a product of industrialization.
One of the most common oils found on supermarket shelves is Canola oil.
Canola comes from the Rape Seed, which is considered to be the most toxic seed known to man. Even birds will not eat it. They know better.
Yet, these very seeds are taken to large plants, where they go through detoxification, deodorization, bleaching and coloring. It is then bottled and labeled as being healthy and good for you. A label that does not mention the free radicals that are contained within.

When you cook with this oil, an interesting thing happens.
How many of you have had to clean out the vent system of your stove?
Its very hard work, and usually requires toxic degreasers, lots of elbow grease and a good dose of patience.
Have you ever wondered what that oil is doing to your body?
If you have not, please stop and ponder these things for a few moments.
That oil is gumming up your body the same way it is gumming up the filter in your vents.
It is clogging your arteries and your inner pipes.
It is clogging up your skin. When you go out in the sun, that oil that has already been processed beyond belief, begins to “cook and burn” again.

As you ponder these things, start cleaning your stove and vents.
When you are done, throw out the toxic cleaners you used. You will never need them again.
The next time you cook, use real butter, coconut oil, or palm oil.
Take a good dose of high vitamin cod liver oil as well.
Cleanup now only needs a soft cloth, water and a bit of soap.
Never again will that build up haunt you.
And you will be on your way to a healthy body.
A body that no longer gets burned when exposed to the sun.

I speak from personal experience and research. I am not a doctor, nor a scientist.
I prefer to look at historical records and follow the wisdom of the ancients who knew that real food meant life.
For a modern day look at real oils, particularly Coconut oil, look at the Philippines.
Skin cancer is almost unheard of in this country. Coconut plays a big role in their diet.
The same can be said of the Southern Islands.

I urge you to do your own research. Don’t take my word for it.
I also urge you to take a look at the ingredients of any sunscreens you may have in your possession. Jot down how many known carcinogens are in them.
Determine if these are things you want on your skin and on the skin of your loved ones.
post #34 of 54
Thread Starter 
Well, I now have a mild sunburn! I was in the pool from 10-12 yesterday, with a bit of sunscreen applied by my 5 yo... I got pretty pink. But it does seem to be fading. I still think it is less severe than it would normally be... so sunscreen applied well is still necessary for me, but I am a bit less stressed about getting unexpected burns, which is what got me in the past.
post #35 of 54
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Originally Posted by nicole.schwartz View Post
I'm looking as well. I just bought some at KWF's on sale for $7.00 for 24 oz....but I'd like to do a buying club or coop for a much larger quantity. Let me know if you find some place.
I just got online to shop around! I definitely need another 5 gallon bucket. I'll let you know what I find... Miss you guys!
post #36 of 54
PaulaJoAnne -- I thought the article was fantastic, very well-written and readable. My only suggestion would be that you state the part about the oil "cooking" on our skin in the sun as if it were a fact, when really it's just your own theory ... I think?
post #37 of 54
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Originally Posted by wagamama View Post
PaulaJoAnne -- I thought the article was fantastic, very well-written and readable. My only suggestion would be that you state the part about the oil "cooking" on our skin in the sun as if it were a fact, when really it's just your own theory ... I think?
Thank you for noticing that. Certainlyu not my intention.
Would it not be cool if that could be proven though?
post #38 of 54
I've been cooking/baking with CO for a couple of months now and love it. I just started to take Cod Liver Oil after hearing about the skin benefits. I am also very fair and freckled. If I can prevent just one more freckle, that would be wonderful!

I get my CO and CLO from www.iherb.com
They have Nutiva Extra Virgin CO 54 oz. for $22 and it is always really fresh. Use coupon code TIN857 for $5 off your first order.
post #39 of 54
Cool info! My kids and I are blonde and blue eyed and we seem to tan well. People are already remarking on how tan they are. I was actually suprised how long they have been in the sun without turing red. My 15 month old dd with white hair and blue eyes just gets browner...she has had traditional fats since conception and seemed to have a little darker skin tone when she was born. (We have been eating traditonal fats for a little over 3 years.)

I started intentional sun exposure last year and even though I am fair I can tan quite well and hardly ever sunburn after my base tan. (I use to use sunscreen often) We are doing very dangerous things here people--getting lots of sun and eating lots of fats and now we are tan, happy, and healthy. Life is great!

About melanoma--Our family friend who lived in Oregon (little sun) just died from it and someone in my church had it in her nasal cavity---Something else has to cause this. It will probably take another 40 years for mainsteam medicine to start promoting sun and telling us to limit suncreen use.

I also read that if you cannot tan it can mean low zinc which I have corrected so maybe that is helping as well.
post #40 of 54
Thread Starter 
Well, within 1-2 days of burning a bit earlier this week, my redness faded considerably, and now I just have a very light tan. I never get *very* dark, but I have tan lines, woo-hoo!

The weird thing... my skin LOOKED red, and felt maybe a bit itchy, but didn't actually HURT.
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