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[bright_eyes]

Thinking about his more, I think one of the challenging things is not having a big food budget. I would put way more coconut oil in my smoothies, but even with a tbsp (if it's even that) of coconut oil, we go through it fast and I'm the only one eating it. It feels so expensive to buy and I'm buying the least expensive one I can find. Coconut milk feels so expensive to buy on a regular basis. I can't afford grass fed beef/pastered chickens and am not a big meat eater as a whole, so I don't eat much meat. Usually 2-4 times a week at the most and only once a day. We've been eating a lot of beans/lentils instead, although I don't know how well my digestion is handling them. I've been trying to do bone broths on a regular basis, as I can afford the bones from the good quality chicken/beef as they are pretty cheap. Avacados too add up, so I eat a little, but save most of the avacado for ds as he'll eat 1/2 one every day. I haven't ordered cod liver oil yet because of the expense.

I thought I was doing good job of getting lots of nutrient dense foods because I don't eat refined grains, refined sugar, or junk food. I figured that since everything I eat is healthy, that I was getting enough of everything I need. And I thought I was doing a good thing by trying to eat lots of fruits/veggies, and I don't even eat tons of them, for the most part.

[bright_eyes]

Originally Posted by hummingmom

Vegetables and most fruits are pretty low in calories. I've been grain-free (SCD) for the last five months of this pregnancy, and if it weren't for eating large amounts of good quality fats -- well over 150 g/day -- and a pretty significant amount of bananas, I would have starved.

How did you manage to eat that much fat each day????

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by bright_eyes

Wow, thanks Carley! It's interesting seeing how many calories I'm actually getting. I didn't even have that bedtime snack yesterday (milk, apple, banana) and I didn't have a salad at supper (I did eat 3 bowls of soup, though), so I ate even less calories. I felt really naseous in the evening (which I haven't experienced at all this pregnancy) so I couldn't eat anything else.

Part of the problem is that I always feel so uncomfortable. The symptom I had that lead me to discovering my gluten intolerance is chronic stomach/abdominal pain/discomfort. Lately I've been feeling it again even though I've been cutting out gluten and I haven't been cheating on eating gluten every now and then. All day today, I've felt discomfort (somewhere in my belly- I can't tell what's what with my big preggo belly), which makes it hard to want to eat.

I just feel like my digestion is all out of whack and I'm not sure what all to do to fix it. I can't wait until this pregnancy is over so that I can figure out if what I am feeling is pregnancy related or not.

I recently went to a lady who does muscle testing and she told me that I need to cut out dairy. She said butter and yogurt were fine and small amounts of raw milk were fine, but I shouldn't drink it every day. She said cheese was definately out, even the raw cheese I've beeng getting. She told me to add in colustrum, fish oil from small fishes (she said no to cod liver oil, which I was wanting to get), calcium, millet, and a probiotic to my diet. I've only added in calcium supplements when I remember to. Does anyone know how accurate that muscle testing thing is for food intolerances, and such???

So I've been drinking less milk and eating no cheese, but I have been trying to put plain yogurt on as much as possible. I put butter on as much as possible. I feel bad that I'm not getting enough calories. This gluten thing has been harder than I thought it would ever be!!!

I would not cut out cod liver oil, especially if its the real unprocessed stuff from Blue Ice.
Its a total myth that its bad for you. It has a much better balance then fish oil, thats for sure.

I was checking, and 150 grams of fat comes out to 2/3 of a cup. A little over a stick of butter.

[bright_eyes]

I haven't been taking cod liver oil at all, I have just been meaning to order some and went to that muscle testing lady, who said to stick to small fish oil for right now. I don't so much think that she thought it is bad, but that she was sensing (from what my body was telling her) that I needed fish oil from small fish and not cod liver oil. I don't know how accurate muscles testing is, but I have a friend who recommended this lady to me and told me that she has helped her a ton with her own health. I'm still slightly skeptical because I don't know how you could not need cod liver oil, from how much good I've read about it.

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by bright_eyes

I haven't been taking cod liver oil at all, I have just been meaning to order some and went to that muscle testing lady, who said to stick to small fish oil for right now. I don't so much think that she thought it is bad, but that she was sensing (from what my body was telling her) that I needed fish oil from small fish and not cod liver oil. I don't know how accurate muscles testing is, but I have a friend who recommended this lady to me and told me that she has helped her a ton with her own health. I'm still slightly skeptical because I don't know how you could not need cod liver oil, from how much good I've read about it.

So, have you ever looked at the nutrition label on fish oil? No A, no D, etc.
The oil in the flesh, should be consumed with the flesh.

[bright_eyes]

So it would be best just to ignore her recommendation and get it anyway? I'm struggling with all the recomendations that she made. She told me to avoid gluten, but I had already mentioned that I had been cutting it out with positive results. I don't mind adding millet, but colustrum costs $30, so I haven't wanted to spend the money on it. And then I haven't really felt inclined to get regular fish oil when I've read so much good stuff about cod liver oil, especially with the point you just made about the vit. a and d.

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by bright_eyes

So it would be best just to ignore her recommendation and get it anyway? I'm struggling with all the recomendations that she made. She told me to avoid gluten, but I had already mentioned that I had been cutting it out with positive results. I don't mind adding millet, but colustrum costs $30, so I haven't wanted to spend the money on it. And then I haven't really felt inclined to get regular fish oil when I've read so much good stuff about cod liver oil, especially with the point you just made about the vit. a and d.

Hmm, did she ask you all kinds of leading questions before testing you?

And yes, go for the good clo. Its a proven traditional super food, and if you are not allergic to fish, then you should have no problem with it.

[Millie Ivy]

Am I the only one here who gets squicked out and annoyed when people prescribe colostrum? hm?

Bright eyes, I went gluten free (along with my kids, mother and sister, and now brother, too!) and it is an adjustment, to be sure. There are lots of grains you can eat, though, and you will find your way. I can honestly say that I don't feel deprived at all. I eat pretty much whatever I want, I just sometimes have to figure out a way to make it from scratch, lol. I can eat out if I want at lots of places nearby, and I feel good.

Where do you buy Coconut Oil? I get mine from Tropical Traditions by the gallon and it ends up being really reasonable for how much I get. (I get the non organic- from a very pure island, so I feel very comfy buying the non organic.)

Have you ever looked at kerry ann's menu mailer? www.cookingtf.com it's fantastic!
More tomorrow, I am sure. Very tired now...

[Metasequoia]

I'd say more fat - raw milk yogurt or raw cream to top you off. It's really hard to eat a ton of fat & not feel full. I was finding that I was always craving dairy after dinner, something really fatty & I think it had to do with tryptophan (which is high in full fat dairy.)

A bit of brown rice cooked in bone broth topped with raw butter might also be satiating.

[Ruthla]

I think you need more fat and more animal protein, especially if you can't eat a lot of dairy products. You may not need to purchase fish oil as a supplement if you eat a lot of oily fish. The small fish that this HCP recomended are also the ones that are lower in mercury (as mercury tends to accumulate as big fish eat medium fish that ate small fish etc etc.) Canned sardines are pretty cheap.

You also may do better with some refined grains right now- whole grains are high in fiber and can make you feel full before you've had enough calories. You also may want to include other, less expensive oils, in addition to the coconut oil. Olive oil is usually cheaper than coconut oil. Nut oils are fairly healthy- check the prices in your local stores to see if it pays to get some of those.

[bright_eyes]

Originally Posted by PaulaJoAnne

Hmm, did she ask you all kinds of leading questions before testing you?

No, she just asked why I was there and so I told her some of the issues I was having and how I had cut out gluten and have been feeling better since. I think I will order some cod liver oil. I keep hearing how great it is and want to see if it would make any noticeable difference for me if I took it as well.

Originally Posted by Bella Babe

Where do you buy Coconut Oil? I get mine from Tropical Traditions by the gallon and it ends up being really reasonable for how much I get. (I get the non organic- from a very pure island, so I feel very comfy buying the non organic.)

Have you ever looked at kerry ann's menu mailer? www.cookingtf.com it's fantastic!

I get my coconut oil from the hfs. Since I'm in Canada, I haven't ventured into ordering anything online since most of the stores are US and would probably cost a ton to get them here. I would love to find a cheaper source. I pay $13 for a small jar that lasts a month with only me eating about a tbsp/day, and I really want dh to start taking some, especially since he works outside every day.

I do get her mailer but get really overwhelmed by so many new recipes and new tastes. So I make some of the meals occasionally. I grew up eating processed junk and am slowly learning how to cook. I use more and more of her meals as I get better at cooking, though, and do like them when they turn out (they don't always turn out for me, which I'm pretty sure is do to my lack of skill with cooking.

Originally Posted by Ruthla

I think you need more fat and more animal protein, especially if you can't eat a lot of dairy products. You may not need to purchase fish oil as a supplement if you eat a lot of oily fish. The small fish that this HCP recomended are also the ones that are lower in mercury (as mercury tends to accumulate as big fish eat medium fish that ate small fish etc etc.) Canned sardines are pretty cheap.

You also may do better with some refined grains right now- whole grains are high in fiber and can make you feel full before you've had enough calories. You also may want to include other, less expensive oils, in addition to the coconut oil. Olive oil is usually cheaper than coconut oil. Nut oils are fairly healthy- check the prices in your local stores to see if it pays to get some of those.

I have olive oil but have a hard time eating it. I don't like the taste of olive oil and apart from sauteeing with it, I don't eat it much. And I'm not even sure if I should ever be sauteeing with it since I've heard that it shouldn't be heated. I occasionally experiement with making a salad dressing with it but I have yet to find a recipe that I like since I can always taste the olive oil and don't like it. The only other way to get it into my diet that I can think of would be to put it on steamed veggies after they're cooked but then I wouldn't be getting any butter in my diet (apart from sauteeing things with butter). Any suggestions on how to get more olive oil in my diet? Any good salad dressing recipes? I haven't looked at other oils since I don't really know how to include oils in my diet other than salad dressings and sauteeing things with them. Again, any suggestions on how to include nut oils in my diet?

Animal products are really hard for me. I'm not a vegetarian by any stretch but I have such a hard time including much meat in my diet. I am not much of a cook, so I don't know many ways to cook meat and I've just never been a big meat eater. So I only have it once a day, every few days. I could add bacon/sausage to my diet, but I don't have a source for pastured pork and struggle with the thought of using the stuff from the grocery store. I've been trying to add bone broth to our diet to make up for the lack of meat. Do you not get a lot of the same benefits with bone broth as you do with actually eating meat?

We don't eat a lot of fish. My brother was super allergic to fish and we couldn't even cook it as the smell bothered him, so I did not grow up eating it and I don't know how to cook it. Salmon isn't too hard to cook so I occasionally buy some, but usually I just get canned salmon. I've been trying to eat more of it on a regular diet. I'm not a big fan of sea food since I've had so little of it in my life, and I don't think I could stomach eating sardines. I tried osters once and that didn't go over well so I'm pretty nervous to try sardines...

I'm starting to think that a lot of my problem is that I just don't have the best digestion. I've been getting heart burn a lot lately and I feel so uncomfortable after I eat. Yesterday I ate romain lettuce topped with avacado and canned salmon and hurt quite a bit after. My gut ached really bad for awhile after I ate. Today, I felt really off, and uncomfortable for most of the day as well. Lots of heart burn and just a general aching/tight feeling in my espohagus/stomach/intestines. It's a weird feeling, it's hard to really explain how I've been feeling. I bought some digestive enzymes today and I'll see if they help. I'm going out of town for a week tomorrow but when I get back, I am planning on attempting to make kefir and fermented veggies to see if they'll also help. I keep wondering if I should do some sort of diet like the GAPS diet to heal but am scared to death of trying to make such radical changes to my diet.

[Zenzero]

Sounds like the enzymes could definitely be a good idea for you...have you read the 'stomach acid' thread?

An idea to use oils would be to make your own mayo, if you don't already...it's really easy and would get some more fat in. You could use it on salads or as a dip or whatever.

HTH!

[bright_eyes]

Mayo is a great idea! Although I am scared to death of trying to make my own! I seriously am not much of a cook, so it's hard for me to learn to do so many things from scratch. Do you have a good recipe?

I read the stomach acid thread and have been wondering if that is my problem. I really want to try making fermented veggies to see if that will help. I'm also super scared to try making those but I really want to see if they will help.

[Metasequoia]

Coconut mayonnaise

[BetsyPage]

Originally Posted by Metasequoia

Coconut mayonnaise

Cool! I'm trying this soon...

[Ruthla]

If you make a lot of smoothies, can't you add some more oils into those? You specifically mentioned that you only used a small amount of CO in the smoothie due to cost, so I'm thinking maybe add more oils to the smoothies?

[hummingmom]

Originally Posted by bright_eyes

How did you manage to eat that much fat each day????

To start with, I base most of our family's meals around full-fat foods: eggs, whole milk cheese, fatty lamb or pork chops, canned fish packed in oil, broth with the fat left in, etc. Then, to my own serving, I'll typically add about 1.5 tbsp of butter, lard, or tallow, or 1/4 cup of homemade sour cream (made with heavy cream; commercial sour cream tends to be lower in fat). Either that, or I'll have a good-sized helping of a fat-rich side dish, such as cooked vegetables with lots of butter, a salad with plenty of homemade dressing, or raw vegetables with a creamy dip.

If we're having something fairly lean, like hamburger patties, chicken, or baked fish, I'll do both of the above: added fat + a high-fat side dish.

I'm grain-free and lowish-carb at the moment, so I really need to add all this fat or I won't get enough calories for a healthy pregnancy. If you're eating grains, potatoes, etc., you won't have to go to such an extreme. For instance, my children eat the same sort of main dishes that I do, but they typically get gluten-free bread or cooked grains on the side, with just a moderate amount of butter added.

[hummingmom]

BTW, high-fat turns out to be a pretty economical way to eat. It's more expensive than a high-carbohydrate diet, but much cheaper than trying to fill up on fresh produce and protein foods (which is what most people do when they cut back on carbohydrates). These days, a pound of ground beef will serve my whole family. In past pregnancies, I could easily have eaten that whole amount on my own.

Butter is an especially good value, in terms of calories per $. And it makes everything taste great, so once you get used to the idea, it's easy to add generous amounts to your food. For instance, when I make homemade breakfast sausage, I let mine cool a bit, then spread a thick layer of Kerrygold butter on top. Oooh, that is so good. Baby and I want some right now! :