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Parents who CHOOSE not to eat/feed their family organic

post #1 of 183
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Can anyone help me find an explanation for this? I don't get it. DH and I have a few close friends who can afford organic, but happen to come off as pretty anti-organic.

The only things I can come up with are:

1- They ate that way growing up and are alive today argurment
2- They aren't giving in to the organic "hype"

Thoughts?
post #2 of 183
Have you asked them?
post #3 of 183
I don't think you have to eat organic to eat healthy, but that doesn't equal ezmac. I do think it has a lot to do with your upbringing and what you were raised on.
post #4 of 183
a lot of people are convinced that their kids just won't like healthy food so why bother trying? It's not an attitude I get, honestly.
post #5 of 183
Different tastes and a different concept of what constitutes a reasonable diet. I'm not even sure why there's a question in that, honestly. Different people eat different ways ... the notion that ez-mac can ONLY be explained by ignorance or poverty is just ... odd.
post #6 of 183
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Originally Posted by Rosedotcom View Post
I don't think you have to eat organic to eat healthy, but that doesn't equal ezmac. I do think it has a lot to do with your upbringing and what you were raised on.
I think there is a lot of truth in this. I grew up working class and there are a lot of foods I still enjoy despite knowing they are bad for me (fried bologna sandwich as one example). Granted I don't eat them often but I know I have friends who wonder about some of my eating habits. Since while I do eat fairly healthy and organic, I do like my junk .

All in all I say I would just ask these folks if its something you really want to know.
post #7 of 183
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Originally Posted by Amila View Post
Can anyone help me find an explanation for this? I don't get it. DH and I have a few close friends with NO money problems, who are very well educated (one is in the health field, the other is a biologist) and they are pretty anti-organic, and just often eat and feed their kids stuff that is BLATANTLY bad. Like EZ-MAC. For a 1-year old.

The only things I can come up with are:

1- They ate that way growing up and are alive today argurment
2- They aren't giving in to the organic "hype"

Thoughts?
Health field. Biologist.

I think that explains it?

post #8 of 183
My sister falls into this catagory. She also works alot because well, she's upper middle class. Her deal is mostly time. She has huge mother guilt (although she also loves her job) and wants to spend as much time as possible as she can with her girls. She goes into work at 4 in the morning so that she can be home at 4 to help with home work and shuttle to activities. Oh, and she once burned the green beans trying to boil them. It's easier to bake some chicken nuggets that it is to do almost anything else. She does those make ahead meal places once in a while and it's better, but.....
post #9 of 183
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Originally Posted by Liquesce View Post
Different tastes and a different concept of what constitutes a reasonable diet. I'm not even sure why there's a question in that, honestly. Different people eat different ways ... the notion that ez-mac can ONLY be explained by ignorance or poverty is just ... odd.
: I don't understand why you think EZmac is "BLATANTLY" bad.
post #10 of 183
Convenience? I bet if there were an Annie's Organic Easy Mac they would buy it instead. I myself make the kids Annie's Shells & Cheese way too often...
post #11 of 183
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Originally Posted by Rosedotcom View Post
I don't think you have to eat organic to eat healthy, but that doesn't equal ezmac. I do think it has a lot to do with your upbringing and what you were raised on.
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Originally Posted by frontierpsych View Post
a lot of people are convinced that their kids just won't like healthy food so why bother trying? It's not an attitude I get, honestly.
nak


these... plus, if they're used to eating crap they'll be less open to changing their palate as well.
post #12 of 183
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Originally Posted by 4evermom View Post
: I don't understand why you think EZmac is "BLATANTLY" bad.
Yeah...I guess if that's ALL they eat...

Anti-organic I get, because all the "major" studies have found no nutritional difference between organic and non-organic produce. *I'm* not sold on that, plus there are a number of environmental, bigger-picture reasons to eat organic, but I can see an educated individual deciding it's not a big deal.
post #13 of 183
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Originally Posted by gcgirl View Post
Yeah...I guess if that's ALL they eat...
Or if it's made with lead shavings...

Maybe the kid likes it and it makes him happy. I would've been thrilled if my ds would've eaten any food between the ages of one and two. He did his best to EBF and occasionally tolerated a few pretzels.
post #14 of 183
If EZmac has that fake powdered cheese stuff and white pasta, then it's full of sodium, artificial colors, and empty calories. I use barilla plus when I make pasta. It's high protein and has more nutrients. You can also melt real cheese into hot drained pasta. My 3.5 DD still doesn't eat a lot so I try to offer her nutrient rich foods. When I'm too busy, there's alway things like cold garbanzo beans and grape tomatoes, which also has more nutrients than boxed mac and cheese.
post #15 of 183
Well, for 2 WOH parent families, a lot of it boils down to convience. I shop at the local supermarket. What it carries is what we eat. We do make an effort to get to the farmer's market most weekends, which gives us great produce options. And I do cook from scratch more than many WOHMs do. But realistically, many choices we make are "less bad" amongst the convenient options that are easily available. Its often driven by what the day's schedule is X what the grocery store carries. Its not nearly as perfectly healthy as it could be with more time, but its the best we can do.

And really, I'm not buying into the "it always has to be perfectly healthy" obsession. My basic belief is that if its mostly healthy, to occassional EzMac (or Big Mac) isn't going to hurt anyone. Even if its accompanied by a soda and non-organic apples.
post #16 of 183
Because we all have different priorities in life and it's not at the top of their list. I read all the arguments on MDC that eating healthy is just as easy and inexpensive as eating less healthy choices, but I promise I can make my kids Kraft Mac-n-cheese, knowing they will eat every last bite on their plate, faster than homemade pasta, which they may or may not eat, or chopping vegetables, which they likely won't eat, period. I do NOT enjoy cooking, so the less thought and effort involved in a meal, the better. I try to limit the junk my family eats, but compared to what I read about other MDC moms feed their families, our meals probably have more in common with those of which you write. :
post #17 of 183
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
You can also melt real cheese into hot drained pasta.
I love homemade mac & cheese, and I also love the Kraft stuff. I find cheese melted straight into noodles disgusting, and neither of my kids like it, either. I've tried it a few times. I make sauce from scratch, instead. However, that does take much, much longer than the boxed stuff, is more expensive...and both my younger ones like the boxed stuff better. *sigh*

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My 3.5 DD still doesn't eat a lot so I try to offer her nutrient rich foods. When I'm too busy, there's alway things like cold garbanzo beans and grape tomatoes, which also has more nutrients than boxed mac and cheese.
I have no idea if my kids would touch cold garbanzo beans, as neither of them seem to care for bean (except canned kidney beans, for whatever reason) all that much. I've tried introducing beans quite a few times. They love grape tomatoes...but ds2 could eat a whole package and still be hungry. That doesn't tend to happen with something like EZ Mac. Sometimes, getting the child full counts for a lot.

OP: Do you know for sure that they have no money problems? People don't always talk about it...even with close friends.
post #18 of 183
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Originally Posted by reezley View Post
Convenience? I bet if there were an Annie's Organic Easy Mac they would buy it instead. I myself make the kids Annie's Shells & Cheese way too often...
There is one. Not that I would know about that or anything . . .
post #19 of 183
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post
I have no idea if my kids would touch cold garbanzo beans, as neither of them seem to care for bean (except canned kidney beans, for whatever reason) all that much. I've tried introducing beans quite a few times. They love grape tomatoes...but ds2 could eat a whole package and still be hungry. That doesn't tend to happen with something like EZ Mac. Sometimes, getting the child full counts for a lot..
Had I just made a no-context post about my son's diet at a year old people would have been appalled. But it was successfully maximize calories by whatever means possible or go down the feeding tube route. While I suppose there are some people who would prefer the tube to a lot of sugar, salt, preservatives, and whatnot, I'm not one of them. Had he been willing to sit down to boxed mac and cheese and really eat I'd have been thrilled.
post #20 of 183
For my family it was a little bit of many things.

Definitely, my parents don't buy into the 'organic hype'. They also grew up eating a moderately reasonable diet but definitely not healthy-healthy. And the reason they were middle-upper income was that both my parents were working and simply didn't have *time* to be super-conciencious.

They did try though. Growing up, many of our evening meals were rice/noodles (white), crockpot meat, and steamed veggies. Better than a lot of kids get, for sure. We got chips and ice cream and candy on top of that, but the base wasn't so bad.
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