TF Calorie Counter

[PaulaJoAnne]

We need one.
It is very frustrating, knowing that the counters that are available are not accurate when it comes to real food.
Pastured butter and eggs, whole raw milk, bone broth. None of those things are recognizable in those counters, so when you have to make compensations in the recipe just to make the things work, you know the numbers are skewed.

I do not have the know how to make one though

[Sieren]

I would like to have a TF calorie counter too, for my fiancee It would make it a lot easier to get him to eat things...:P
Unfortunetly, I don't know how to make one either. Hopefully someone here can figure it out!!

[Carley]

...how is it different calorie wise? Everything varies slightly in calorie content (from packaged foods to filet mignons) but for a good idea on how many calories you're consuming... calorie counters are pretty on the money. Measurements, on the other hand, DO vary a LOT. Metric system is accurate while cups and Tbsp are not. If you really want to get crazy accurate stop worrying about "traditional" & start weighing your food.

Clearly there will be a difference if you skim cream into your milk. Then you should enter 1 cup milk & 1 Tbsp (or whatever you add) cream. Likewise, if you skim all the cream off your milk, the milk left (the skim milk) will be less in calories and fat. You could probably guesstimate it as similar to the calorie content of 2%.

If you're getting Jersey milk you might also add 1/2 Tbsp cream to your log to account for the higher butterfat content.

Otherwise, it's really the calorie count you're after. You know you're getting more nutrients. You don't need a counter to tell you that. You just need one to tell you how much energy (calories) you're putting in.

http://caloriecount.about.com/calori...-sharp-i109288
http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/sea...ro=beef&page=0
http://caloriecount.about.com/calori...f-tallow-i4001

http://www.goatladydairy.com/Farm_Cheese.htm

I looked it up via google & found (unverified) sources that say they do not vary:

"Hi, Milkfans

Raw milk does not have less or more calories than the pasteurized version of the same milk. Full cream milk having about 620 calories per Liter, raw or pasteurized.

Although some of the nutrients are destroyed ( small percentage ) during pasteurization, pasteurized milk is still safer than raw milk. Although I have drunk my fair share of raw milk, I see the results of analysis on that milk and therefore feel comfortable drinking that specific farm milk.

Regards,

Leon the Milkman"

http://www.leonthemilkman.com/category/raw-milk/


ETA: This program allows you to enter your own recipes to be analyzed: http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/recipe_analysis.php


Again, pastured steak probably has no more difference in calorie content than two other steaks from different cows. You really don't need to be making adjustments for simple bone broth, eggs, butter, whole milk etc. If anything, they're probably slightly higher in calorie content.

If you're bone broth looks fatty, add 1 Tbsp beef fat to your recipe to account for it. If your milk is skimmed, enter it as lowfat. If your egg is extra large, enter it as extra large.

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[PaulaJoAnne]

You know what, I had calorie counter on the brain, but I meant to say/write Nutrition/recipe calculator.
Sorry bout that.
I would love to input recipe like the raw ice creams that I make, for example, and come up with nutritional data, along with calories as well

[Carley]

What type of nutritional info are you looking for? Have you tried the recipe analysis feature? http://caloriecount.about.com/cc/rec...submit&count=8

e.g. here's a recipe I have in my virtual recipe box:

Whole Grain Chocolate Chip Cookies (Using Molasses - No *Refined* Sugar) Recipe

Makes 12 servings

Ingredients1/2 cup butter
1/2 cup molasses
1 egg
1 tsp salt
1 1/2 cup whole grain flour
1/4 cup flax seed
3/4 tsp baking powder
1 cup chocolate chips
Directions
Preheat oven to 375


Cream butter


Add warmed molasses, egg & salt & beat until blended


Combine with dry ingredients


Add choclate chips & flax seeds


Bake 12 minutes until golden brown


Categories

Chocolate, Dessert, Bake, Sugar-Free

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 59.8g

Amount Per Serving

Calories 256Calories from Fat 124
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 13.8g21%
Saturated Fat 8.1g40%
Cholesterol 39mg13%
Sodium 272mg11%
Total Carbohydrates 30.5g10%
Dietary Fiber 3.2g13%
Sugars 14.9g
Protein 4.3g

Vitamin A 6% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 9% • Iron 10%

* Based on a 2000 calorie diet

Nutritional details are an estimate and should only be used as a guide for approximation.

High in manganese
High in saturated fat
High in sugar

[PaulaJoAnne]

Originally Posted by Carley

What type of nutritional info are you looking for? Have you tried the recipe analysis feature?

Well, you see when you use grass fed raw milk, cream, butter, eggs, meat, bones, and wild game and lard, well, they are very different from the standard commercial stuff.
Nutrient dense versus depleted, been fed the wrong foods/fake foods, etc.

[TopazBlueMama]

I know what you mean. I've been wondering if there was a chart somewhere to see the nutritional difference between 100% grass fed milk and commercial pasteurized.

[Carley]

Yeah, I see (hence I buy mostly nutritional whole food)s, but unless you send your bottle of raw milk (or pasturized milk) into a lab you won't know the exact nutritional content. Even if you did, you'd only know the nutritional content of that particular bottle.

e.g. my eggs I buy on Monday may not have the same nutritional value as the eggs I buy next Monday. That idea doesn't drive me crazy.

http://fpc.unl.edu/Laboratory/nutrition.shtml
http://www.dscp.dla.mil/subs/support...ib/foodlab.pdf

Maybe you could be the first to compile such list. Just know that if you send in your raw Jersey milk from your neck of the woods, there will be someone in Wisconsin with Jersey's whose milk has different in nutritional content.

All we can do is average for a "big idea" look into nutrition. Here's an example: http://www.csuchico.edu/agr/grassfed...its/index.html

Those are values for the samples they tested. Not the beef you buy.

Drinking milk and eating well is not a science. Where does it end, you know? You can just assume that the values of your raw milk have a slightly higher fat content and all of the enzymes and bacteria intentionally destroyed by pasturization.

No big deal.