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I hate being on public assistance! I hate being poor! (vent)

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My son's Medicaid got cut off over a paperwork issue. Problem is they forgot to notify me. So he gets severe croup, I take him to the hospital, he's there for two days, and all the while I'm thinking "Thank goodness for Medicaid." Only he didn't have medicaid, so now I have six grand in medical bills. Might as well be six million as far as I'm concerned.

They tell me that I can reapply and they *might* apply coverage retroactively to cover the hospital stay. So I start the reapplication process and they drag it out for so long, that now the medical bills are going to collections, even though I've called and pleaded with them several times to hold off because I *think* Medicaid is going to cover it, eventually.

Let me say that I find applying for public assistance to be the most degrading process. I have to send in every personal document I can think of--birth certificates, tax papers, divorce decree, bank statements, child support info, you name it.

And at every step of the way I encounter the attitude/assumption that I am trying to "game" the system. For instance they ask me if I have cash on hand, I say no, then laugh a little and say "Well the boys have a piggy bank with like twenty bucks in change." The interviewer says very slowly and patiently, "Well. That would be cash on hand." For pete's sake.

So I manage to find the time off work to go into their office to give them all the paperwork they need (oh, and of course the office is only open 8:30 to 4:30 so how on earth are working people supposed to make it in there?) and then a couple of weeks go by and I get a letter saying that they need MORE papers...I don't have the time for this.

So this afternoon I checked the mail hoping that I'd finally get a notice that I'd been approved for food stamps, which I'm also applying for...but no, just a notice that they need my birth certificate, which they had specifically told me before they would NOT need...and I got another collection notice, this one for $1200 for the stupid doc who mis-diagnosed my son with pneumonia, which of course meant unnecessary shots and blood draws...

And just to top it all off, I got a notice that my credit card is upping my interest rate "because of market conditions, and to ensure profitability." It's going up by 7 percent, NEXT FREAKING MONTH. That's the credit card that always had such a great rate, that I put my car on, and the repairs I did so that I could sell my house.

Next month I'm moving in with family, which I've been looking forward as my opportunity to finally get ahead. Only the way things are going, I won't be able to get ahead for a long time, even living rent-free--I'm just going to be catching up.
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I am so sorry. They messed up, and you are paying for their mistake.

I wish I had more to offer than a hug. Maybe someone else will.
post #3 of 21
no advice here either but I couldn't read & not comment...
sorry you are dealing with all of this. I hope it gets worked out soon
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That sucks, they really should have notified you that there was something wrong... Honestly though, once you get accepted, the re-application process is *much* easier - they don't need your bc's and such every single time - just all your basic info and money situation. Its just that initial glut of paperwork thats pretty overwhelming and ridiculous. s I hope everything works out in the end.
post #8 of 21
that stinks, mama. i'm sorry. i had some stuff get covered retroactively with medicaid when i was on it with my dd, i bet yours will be too. it's got to be incredibly frustrating trying to get it all sorted out. i hope things get straightened out soon.
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Can you opt out of the interest increase for your CC?

How long has the insurance fiasco been going on? Doesn't it usually cover 3 months retroactively?

good luck.
post #10 of 21
I agree it sounds like an awful process and I'm so sorry it's sucking so hard for you right now.

Could you also apply to have your bill written off as charity through the hospital program? Most have them and I've had some luck not having to pay when we had nothing...
post #11 of 21
Hugs to you and all you are going through mama.

Ditto to pp on hospital chairty. My sister had to do that, and it helped her considerabley. Best wishes to you.
post #12 of 21
Re: CC interest rate.
They generally cannot amend the cc agreement w/o your approval. Our cc (on which we carry a balance) told us our interest rate would go up too. DH called, told them no, we won't agree. They "closed" teh account, meaning that if we charge anything else, the rate will go up, but otherwise the current balance will stay at teh lower APR. Works for me.
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by Selesai View Post
Re: CC interest rate.
They generally cannot amend the cc agreement w/o your approval. Our cc (on which we carry a balance) told us our interest rate would go up too. DH called, told them no, we won't agree. They "closed" teh account, meaning that if we charge anything else, the rate will go up, but otherwise the current balance will stay at teh lower APR. Works for me.
I was going to say this as well. I also declined a rate increase in exchange for not using the card anymore. That worked for me and it kept our interest rate about half what they want to raise it to! If you don't need that credit card, I would suggest doing this.

Medical bills suck - I know! I hope things work out with medicaid and they cover everything for you.
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I can opt out of the increase, but doing so closes my account, and since this card still has the lowest interest rate of any of my cards (went from 8.9% to 16.9%), I kind of need to keep it open. Plus, closing this account would screw with my credit score, because it's the card I've had the longest, so closing it would shorten the average age of my accounts. And if I close it, my "available credit" will show as zero, which means my utilization percentage would look really bad, which would also affect my credit scores. Given that I have zero in savings, I really need to at least have decent credit in case of an emergency.

Medicaid will "usually" cover bills three months retroactively from the date of application, and I did re-apply within three months of the hospital stay...but I don't know if they'll still cover it if it's gone to a collection agency? They do say that I'm supposed to pay on the bill myself till Medicaid decides if they'll cover it, and if I could have done that, then the bills would still be held by the original creditors rather than by collection agencies...I don't know if Medicaid will pay a collection agency's bill.

The hospital charity department might cover their share of the bill, but the emergency room doc's bill is separate, and the lab's bill is separate, and the bill from my pediatrician is separate. I don't know of any charity program that will cover those bills.

Thanks for all the sympathy. I'm feeling more optimistic today, but that's just because I tend to be optimistic even when it's irrational.
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Oh honey, I'm sorry. I know how hard it is, believe me. We are on medicaid and food stamps and wic right now. I'm a single stay at home mom looking for a job and juggling the paperwork and trying to go to job interviews without daycare because I can't afford drop-in and child care assistance doesn't start until you already have the job and can provide receipts from your checks. The system sucks. I HATE being poor. I HATE telling my 8 year old to go ask her step-dad(who I am not with anymore and she can't ask her dad because he hasn't seen her in 6 years ) for $5 for her field trip at school because I don't have the money and telling my 4 year old that she can't have those donuts because I don't have any money. And getting on assistance is just so degrading and embarrassing. I know what you mean about cash on hand. And providing bank statements. And birth certificates and rent receipts and bill statements and social security cards, etc. To get the bank statements(because I haven't had internet in months) I have to go to my bank and ask for them and they ask WHY I need them(supposedly to better provide me with the information I need on the paper) and I have to tell them it's for food stamps and then they tell me that I can print them online and I have to and say that I have no computer and can't afford to print them for $.10 a page at the library.: It's a beautiful thing ey? All I can say to you is just to take what you can get, be grateful, and look for the lessons. What I mean is, you are probably so lucky to stay home. I don't know the reasons why or the story behind it but I'm guessing you work hard finagling life and bills to stay home by choice with your kids. And being poor you are probably like me in that you have so very few possessions so you are grateful for what you do have and when you have to move(usually because you can no longer afford the place you have) you have less to move right? I know it's hard, really and truly I do. But just remember that there are things to be grateful for each and every single day even if it's just that it's lunchtime and your kids are still alive and you aren't cleaning up blood.
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oh yeah and if it helps I only have one credit card and they cranked up my rate to 29.99% and with no job and no way to pay this off, I am pretty stuck with it. My balance is $2500.00 and I don't even break even every month so there's really no way to pay it down. Yeah I'm looking for jobs and hopefully I get the part-time job I interviewed for last week but it's looking pretty pitiful in my area with 12% unemployment.
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Everyone I have ever known that uses any type of "services" has had problems with social services.
post #18 of 21
Call your hospital and ask if they have an indengency (I know thats not spelled right but spell checker is not helping me on this one) program, thats what I did and they will pay at least most of it (at my hospital at least). I am so so so sorry for your situation I really hope everything works out ok for you.
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Medicaid "should" go retro active 3 months, at least it does in my state, as long as you show proof of income for those three months.
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Ehh All I can say is good luck. I had Medicade when I was pregnant with DS and had to have a surgery after he was born for my gallbladder. Well I was "supposed" to be on MC+ For pregnant women only my caseworker didnt change it even though we went through the whole process. Well I didnt know untill a day before the surgery that I never had the MC+ for pregnant women and was cut off a month after DS was born and my surgery was 6 weeks after.......ya. $19,000 which could have been prevented if my caseworker would have done her job. Now when I went back to explain it to them they say they had no idea I was pregnant or they would have switched me because I HAD to be on MC+ for pregnant women to even be covered for L&D. well I think the fact that I was seen by a OB for 9 months , 2 ultrasounds , and the hospital and nursery bill alone that MC+ paid for should have been a big clue.
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