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post #1 of 14
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Not that I wouldn't welcome some help but...my mom has said she'll be here for me, but has already suggested that I just give the new baby a bottle, babies will take both! Argh. I had so many problems with dd. Getting my mom up to speed on current bf info will just take too much time and energy

Dh's mom has offered to come up. Dh will be off work for a month and MIL offered to come up should dh want to go back to work early...um NO! She's a super lady but would be sleeping on our couch.

The midwives have offered support as far as bf goes, so that's good.

Has anyone else just figured it'd be easier to do it themselves? I don't want to put myself in a difficult spot afterwards, but honestly having anyone in here after will just be more work for me. I like to be left alone to sort things out! I'm like that when I'm not hormonal and pregnant.

Jen
post #2 of 14
I'm due in 8 weeks with my third and when I find the time I'm going to post a big ole gripe about my mother in parenting issues.: I have made her cry at least once during every one of my pregnancies.

They moved to Florida from Iowa a couple years ago so this is my first pregnancy that they have lived over two hours away. Keep in mind that they didn't visit all the time anyway when they were close. She called the other night sort of feeling out when she thought was the earliest they (she and my stepdad) could come. She asked when the doctor was going to run tests to find out when the baby would be coming.: I have no idea what she is talking about. If she means checking for dilation, that means nothing with me. I was dilated to 4cm at 36 weeks with both my kids and my first came two days early and the second was a week late. I think she would really like it if I would be induced (no way) so that she (and stepdad) could drive up and be here right away (no way, again.)

I told her that I thought she should wait a month or so to come up so the baby is more than just a lump. I let her know that dh is taking two weeks off work. I think her plan is to be here the first day he goes back. I tried to tell her that life won't come to a halt like it did when I had my first. I won't be sitting on the couch all day. I still have one child to get to school every day and one who has playdates and other commitments during the week. I'm not a homebody. Her brilliant idea is that I can take ds1 to school and ds2 to all his activities and she will stay home and hold the baby. How's that going to work. I've breastfed both my boys and she should know how time consuming that can be.

The crying came when I tried tactfully to note that in the past dh and I have never left our 2 or 3 week old newborn with anyone other than ourselves. Our babies come with us everywhere. The one time we did leave our first with her when he was 6 weeks old so I could go to my highschool reunion it was a disaster. I asked if she remembered that, but her memory is pretty skewed about the event. We AP and I thought that when our second came around that she had finally seen that it works, but now I'm getting all the same old crap (I should let the baby cry it out, our second was such a bad sleeper because he slept with me until he was six months, extended nursing -- more than 2 months in her opinion -- makes children clingy and dependant.) Uugh.

The worst part is that I know that she expects that she and stepdad can come and stay with us. No way. Dh will have a fit. We simply don't have room, and they are absolutely no help when they come. For example, her holding the newborn while I take my ds to school at 8:00 -- not really helpful. Her taking my ds to school -- helpful. She doesn't get that though. She just wants to come for weeks and hold the baby while we do their laundry and pick up after them and cook for them. Definitely not helpful. I do find it funny that when I hold the baby a lot I'm spoiling it, but when she does it, it's fine.

Know that you aren't alone in this struggle. Stay firm and only allow what you are comfortable with. Though people may think that their presence is a help (especially if you suffer from ppd) if it isn't what you want, it isn't helpful and is actually just added stress. For the first two it wasn't so bad because they would come and just stay for a night, but now that they are a two days drive away, it's going to be a totally different story. I'm sure we will be comiserating much in the future.

If you want to be alone, let them know. If they can come for a weekend, that's one thing, but extended stays are just exhausting and are way more work for the new mom nine times out of ten. Especially if we are constantly having to defend our parenting decisions. Take a stand and don't waver. Your mental health and the health of your baby is what's most important.

Funny how the parents get so upset when our chosen birth and newborn period (and childraising in general) isn't what they dreamed it would be. I still don't know how my mom thinks that my having children should live up to her dream expectations about how it should be. She had her chance. It's my turn.

Boy, I really need to go vent in Parenting Issues, don't I.:LOL
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Yes! Thank you! Dh and I are very self sufficient, as it seems you guys are too. If there's a problem, we deal with it. If we need something, we arrange it.

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Though people may think that their presence is a help (especially if you suffer from ppd) if it isn't what you want, it isn't helpful and is actually just added stress.
This is exactly how I feel, although I know that my "shutting people out" will be perceived as me being depressed and not being able to ask for/accept help, thus prompting more attempts to "help" me.

I will take your advice though, and be specific about what I will accept and what I won't. The more I think about it though, I don't need "help". I need people to give me space, and be as normal as possible. I can order myself a pizza, for pete's sake, so come, get yourself some tea, then go home! Don't, under any circumstances, attempt to launder my diapers! :LOL

I can totally identify with the grandparents being off-put because my parenting reflects few of their choices. And I look at that anachronistically, so why this should bother them I have no idea!

Thanks for the commiseration

Jen
post #4 of 14

Re: Post partum support...no thanks!

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Originally posted by Alstrameria

Has anyone else just figured it'd be easier to do it themselves? I
I've never had help at home so I'd have to say that no, it's not easier as long as people will respect your choices. With my first I came home from the hospital so sick that I couldn't get up after taking a nap. Thank God my baby was quiet until her father got home from work or I don't know what I would have done. She ended up going to stay with my bf's mother for about a week when she was about a week old. It would have been much better if someone could have come to my house to care for her when I couldn't. With my next one I came home on Thanksgiving and helped make dinner. :LOL I had no extra help with my last two either. I think if you can get some help and they will respect your choices then have them come. But others that have had help might feel the opposite. LOL
post #5 of 14
If your gut tells you you're better off without someone's "help" then believe that instinct. I was more or less FORCED to let my in-laws visit my baby before I was ready. (They just up and booked their tickets to visit despite DH making it clear we'd let them know when it'd be okay to come. : )

However, if you are feeling like you might want help but with certain "rules," then you could take a proactive approach (this will work better with your own family if your DH is like mine and won't strictly enforce things with his own family). You could say for instance, "I'd be happy to have you come around (date) for (length of stay e.g. 1 week). Unfortunately we don't have room (or whatever excuse) so you'll have to stay in a hotel." Then you could set "visiting hours" and keep a list of chores to be done posted and updated (have your DH help make it) so when their idea of "help" is offering to hold the baby you can look at it and say, "actually, I've been wondering how I'm going to get lunch made with the baby needing to nurse. Could you make us sandwiches?" For this to work you have to have family who's willing to HEAR what you are saying, and comply, and you have to be willing to be firm about your wishes. If that won't fly, it might be easier to wait. And if you are going to have to entertain them in any way, form, or fashion, forget about it. BTDT, won't do it again!

Best of luck. Remember to ask FRIENDS for help, they'll almost certainly be willing if they know you need them AND they get to have a glimpse of the baby. And they generally have their own lives to get back to so they won't overstay their welcome!

Carol
post #6 of 14
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EllasMama, I wish I could be that direct. Somehow my words fail me when I feel backed into a corner! I think it's a good thing I'm thinking of this now.

I think it's because I'm a private person mostly, I'm uncomfortable with others seeing me vulnerable.

As for friends, I hear what you are saying, but unfortunately I've so few friends (like one) who share any of my views anymore, I kind of feel like I would be defending my choices the whole time they were here!

It's been me and dh for a while now, and we are pretty self sufficient. I guess I'll just have to see what happens!

Jen
post #7 of 14
I am a doula -births, really- and I often don't see the point of having a postpartum doula! I don't want help with a baby, I want someone to clean the house.

That's actually what I'm going to ask for- gift certificates for Merry Maids or something like that for a few weeks, or even pay one of the local kids to come in and clean a couple times a week. Get the cat hair off the furniture so I can sit there.

Some people are really happy to have their folks stay with them when they have a baby, but that isn't me at all! egad! I think that sounds like hell on earth. Staying nearby and coming to visit sounds great. Since my mother-in-law went six months without speaking to us a few years ago, she won't stay in our house again, and this has actually worked out better in the long run. She stays with a good friend, a widow who works during the day, so my mil basically has an empty house and she can hang with her friends late and not have to deal with all the pets and clutter and insanity of our house. I don't know why this arrangement never occured to them before (it sure occured to me). But I wouldn't be able to tolerate anyone staying. Maybe my best friend from kindergarten, whom I'm not ashamed to fall apart in front of. But there's too much going on with a new baby!

I had a client who had her mother come from India for the birth. I saw her at five weeks postpartum and she did look fabulous- she said she hadn't cooked a meal since the birth, nor had she even bathed the baby yet! She said her mother had just taught her how to massage the baby and would teach her the other things before she went home to India. This was terrific for this mom, but I would go crazy. I want to wash my own baby! I want to go about my business!

I was mostly alone the first few days/weeks postpartum- dh had to record and mix an album, and those things don't wait- but this was largely ideal for my personality. I had a roomate who worked so he checked in with me and friends visited but we could also keep ourselves to ourselves. For me this kept postpartum depression *away,* whereas for others a lack of tangible support is exactly what brings it on.
post #8 of 14
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Some people are really happy to have their folks stay with them when they have a baby, but that isn't me at all! egad! I think that sounds like hell on earth.
Pretty much! And you are exactly right, if anyone would come over and cook or clean or do laundry, that would be different. But even then, I guess I'm picky about how I like things done. I just can't relax and turn things over to someone else; it's just not me. Maybe I'll be a little more tired than your client from India, but I'll be happier in the long run!

We do have a cleaning lady, maybe I'll talk to her about an extra visit. See, now her I wouldn't mind being around! Weird eh?

Jen
post #9 of 14
Jen,

I just replied to another post of yours...we must be on the same page today!!!:LOL

I am the exact same way as you are.

I just wanted to be alone with my dp,kids and new baby but people dont know how to except that and it was really frustrating for me with my last pg.

I had the annoying MIL who thought she knew everything about my pg and what I would want. And the rest of dp's family was so surprised that I didnt want anyone at or near the hospital when I was in labor. I know some people like a full house but I am NOT one of those. I wanted it to be an intimate time for dp and myself. Th eonly visistors allowed after baby was born were my two older children and my best friend. Everyone else had to wait.

For the first two weeks I managed to keep most everyone away but then the flood of people kept coming....and coming.

I think it is interesting that people think they are helping you by offering to hold the baby. I can take care of my own baby...if you want to help me why dont you pick up a broom or throw in a load of laundry:LOL
post #10 of 14
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I found myself thinking last time, "wow, don't you people know me at all?"

Sure, I was having a bit of a hard time, but I didn't think it was impossible. Dh and I were well aware of the situation, and we got some help when I needed it.

Just because I'd never done it before didn't mean I was helpless!

Jen
post #11 of 14
Hey-

We'll be having my IL up right after Moo is born. THey came up right after Goo was born. They a) made dinner, b) cleaned dishes, c) washed laundry and folded it everyday! d) stayed in the house so we could get a walk while Goo napped. and e) helped with Goo's Brit Bat.

After a week, that was enough. However, it did help. My parents are just like Jish's...they expect to be waited upon... they get the 3 week or later treatment....

I understand where you are coming from. Take you stand and stick with it!
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
So far it's going well. MIL is coming up the day or so after bug is born and then leaving the next day. She says she'll come up a month later when dh goes back to work IF I ask her to. My parents are coming to watch dd while I birth the baby but...Dh is going to go home and pick up dd, they will both pick me up at the hospital so we can come home as a family. My parents seemed weirded out by this at first but have said it's no problem to give us a couple of days just us.

So, so far so good. Our house is so small I think of it all as my space, and I'll need it when the baby's born!

Jen
post #13 of 14
Jen,

I am late in coming in on this thread. I have a few suggestions/comments.

- You may want to have the grandparents wait a week until they visit. This way you can have uninterupted family bonding time. You know them best. Will they really be able to resist making "helpful" comments (such as refered to above).

-Have you set up a support list? In the book This Is Not What I Expected ; there is a section that suggests making a list of people that can support you and what type they can give. For example...

-Who would be willing to bring food (and not expect to visit)?
-Who would be available to talk with? and at what level?

Set this up now! You do not have to choose between your MIL, mom -or- nothing. I am going to go get my book so I can see what I missed. Here is a pretty good link I found on geting social support:

http://www.postpartum.net/buildingsupport1.htm
post #14 of 14
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Thanks for the link Carla. I did speak to our cleaning lady and she's happy to come and tidy up. I have a neighbour I can call too, I know she'd help me out with food (great cook!).

So I'm getting there. I'm going to read that page now.

Jen
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