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post #1 of 41
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I saw the trailer for this during Up and got really excited! I LOVE CG-animation but nothing beats good ol' Disney hand-drawn animation, complete with a princess and a musical! I cannot wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6DmEgtibOg

Anyone else excited?
post #2 of 41
I am!!!!!!::
post #3 of 41
I think I am getting old. I thought it looked terrible--what a stupid story line.

Of course, I didn't like UP either. My youngest is 11; I think I'm seeing the end. I'm beginning to develop a theory--these gene for appreciating these sorts of movies is not infinite in many people (my husband and myself included). It begins to cease function when your child hits 11.

I did like that the movie appeared to have most "people" of color in it. That was the only thing I thought was interesting about it, though.

Enjoy these movies while you can.....you maybe one of those genetically inclined persons that can't enjoy them past a certain age.
post #4 of 41
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What do you mean by "these sorts" of movies? Do you mean animated movies or "kid" movies? I haven't reached that point yet...and honestly, hope I never do! But I will definitely enjoy it while I can...

I think Disney (and most especially Pixar) are great at telling stories that will appeal to both young and old...or at the very least the kid inside of us. Personally, I love the story for this - the twist after she kisses the frog. It's a funny take on the classic princess & frog story. And I don't know...I think I'll always be able to appreciate the art of animation
post #5 of 41
Not trying to insult those who do enjoy those movies. I've just noticed the last couple of times we've seen American produced, kid-oriented animated movies, the entire family has been very "meh" about it.

I liked Hop on Pop, et al at one point in my life, but I'm not sitting down to read it now, know what I mean?

Though honestly, I've never been a big fan of the Disney animation anyhow. Studio Ghibli, thumbs up. Disney, meh. Just my opinion.

I'm just wondering if it's because my kids are getting older and our family's tastes are evolving, or if the movies aren't as good, or some other factor has come into play. Maybe I'm just more cynical and curmudgeon-y now. Who knows?
post #6 of 41
Some of it could be related to the fact that your kids are losing interest. I do think the people around us can affect how we respond to things. I've never been into Disney (well, not since I was a kid), but dh really likes Disney movies. Since we got married, and we started watching more Disney, and I'm watching them with someone who enjoys them, I'm liking them a lot more than I used to. I still mostly prefer the Pixar movies, but I like Disney better than I did. DH's enjoyment is contagious, I guess...as is the enthusiasm of the kids.
post #7 of 41
DW and I love Disney movies and animation and we don't even have kids yet. We own almost every Disney movie on dvd. We're missing a few. I think we really must have a gene for it. Even if/when our future kids outgrow it and hate it, we'll still love it. Disney and/or Disney/Pixar movies are the only ones we end up seeing in the theater.

I'm so excited for The Princess and the Frog!!! :
post #8 of 41
I AM excited because I love classic Disney animation. But I sooooo wish that they could do a female protagonist that wasn't a princess (or called a princess, or aspiring to princesshood, whatever the plot really is). I'm torn because YAY for a black female lead in a Disney film. And yet... I'll have to see it to decide it if really celebrates her as much as the other modern female leads (she spends most of the movie as a frog, it seems?). It seems more like a Disney marketing thing.

But you can't judge it till you see it, I guess, and I will see it, even if it's just through netflix. Because Disney animation and the singing... I will always love that!
post #9 of 41
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Originally Posted by St. Margaret View Post
I AM excited because I love classic Disney animation. But I sooooo wish that they could do a female protagonist that wasn't a princess (or called a princess, or aspiring to princesshood, whatever the plot really is). I'm torn because YAY for a black female lead in a Disney film. And yet... I'll have to see it to decide it if really celebrates her as much as the other modern female leads (she spends most of the movie as a frog, it seems?). It seems more like a Disney marketing thing.

But you can't judge it till you see it, I guess, and I will see it, even if it's just through netflix. Because Disney animation and the singing... I will always love that!
Just off the top of my head...Mulan wasn't a princess and she kicked serious bootie!!!

And, technically, Belle wasn't a princess and didn't aspire to princesshood.
post #10 of 41
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Originally Posted by St. Margaret View Post
I AM excited because I love classic Disney animation. But I sooooo wish that they could do a female protagonist that wasn't a princess (or called a princess, or aspiring to princesshood, whatever the plot really is). I'm torn because YAY for a black female lead in a Disney film. And yet... I'll have to see it to decide it if really celebrates her as much as the other modern female leads (she spends most of the movie as a frog, it seems?). It seems more like a Disney marketing thing.

But you can't judge it till you see it, I guess, and I will see it, even if it's just through netflix. Because Disney animation and the singing... I will always love that!
Yeah, I feel you on that. I LOVED Disney as a kid, and still do, honestly, though I have a weird guilt about it. I liked Mulan, but at the end her "Happy Ending" was getting the guy. That's what's irritating: all the women protagonists find happiness with a man at the end. I'd love a story like Up to have been with a little girl.

There's Alice in Wonderland (although pretty much not anything like what the original was to mean ) and Lilo and Stitch that are non love story style lead women versus:

Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty & the Beast, the Little Mermaid, Mulan, Sleeping Beauty-heck, they even did it to Pocahontas! And I loved every one of those movies....but it still would be nice to see a kick a** female lead.
post #11 of 41
Yeah, I just meant that I wish there could be one about a young girl, like Up is about a little boy, right? Mulan and B&B are my favs by far, although they do include the romance a bit in Mulan and Belle does become a princess. Mary Poppins is actually the one we've let DD see so far.

Maybe they'll totally subvert the princess archetype in this new movie! I just know we're going to see the character added to the Disney Princesses line of products is all.
post #12 of 41
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Well, the reason Disney's princess line does so well is that every little girl kind of wishes they were a princess! I mean, didn't you? But I think that all their princess characters had strong personalities and characteristics...getting the guy in the end makes for a happy conclusion but it's not like the guys didn't have to work to get the girl either too, ya know?

Anyways, judging from early reviews, it seems like Tiana is the strongest female character Disney's come up with yet:

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Tiana is one of the most awesome Disney "princesses." They've tried the strong and independent woman thing before, but Tiana could run circles around Belle or Pocahontas. She holds down three shifts at work and still finds time to design a restaurant and cook on her own. Once she's on the bayou adventure, she has no trouble fending for herself and babysitting the silver-spoon fed Naveen.
So there's hope! And if anything at all, like you mentioned before, it's Disney animation and singing - gotta love that!
post #13 of 41
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Well, the reason Disney's princess line does so well is that every little girl kind of wishes they were a princess! I mean, didn't you? But I think that all their princess characters had strong personalities and characteristics...getting the guy in the end makes for a happy conclusion but it's not like the guys didn't have to work to get the girl either too, ya know?

Anyways, judging from early reviews, it seems like Tiana is the strongest female character Disney's come up with yet:



So there's hope! And if anything at all, like you mentioned before, it's Disney animation and singing - gotta love that!

Well... actually, I think the reason the line is so successful is because of the HUGE marketing they do, with cross promotions and psychological studies to figure out how to get people to buy more of that stuff. I can remember one time in my life wishing I was a princess, because... well, because then everything would be perfect. And as soon as I wished that, I realized how odd that was, and I was over it. I think princess play is fine in moderation, but around here, it's like THE thing that people project onto little girls. And DH is super anti-princess cult. I'd rather take DD to see Coraline than Snow White

BUT I'm still mostly amazed that Disney is making a regular animated movie. I remember mourning the end of animation when Pixar took over for them. I like Pixar movies, but nothing can replace classic Disney. Hooray!
post #14 of 41
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Well, the reason Disney's princess line does so well is that every little girl kind of wishes they were a princess! I mean, didn't you?
You just hit one of my pet peeves. IME, there is no such thing as "every little girl (or boy) kind of wishes...". I hated almost all "girl play" as a child (which sucked, because I was born in '68, and girls were still supposed to be girls...the changes I see in ds1's generation are heartening). I certainly never, ever, ever wanted to be a princess...maybe a prince (of the slaying dragons type), but not a princess. Blech.

I will say that this also bothers me, though:
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all the women protagonists find happiness with a man at the end. I'd love a story like Up to have been with a little girl.

There's Alice in Wonderland (although pretty much not anything like what the original was to mean ) and Lilo and Stitch that are non love story style lead women versus:

Cinderella, Snow White, Beauty & the Beast, the Little Mermaid, Mulan, Sleeping Beauty-heck, they even did it to Pocahontas! And I loved every one of those movies....but it still would be nice to see a kick a** female lead.
I've known plenty of kick-ass women who have found happiness with a man. The idea that a woman can't find a man, but still be a kick ass female is really condescending.
post #15 of 41
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You just hit one of my pet peeves. IME, there is no such thing as "every little girl (or boy) kind of wishes...". I hated almost all "girl play" as a child (which sucked, because I was born in '68, and girls were still supposed to be girls...the changes I see in ds1's generation are heartening). I certainly never, ever, ever wanted to be a princess...maybe a prince (of the slaying dragons type), but not a princess. Blech.
Um... I wanted to be a princess once... DD never used to let me be the princess though, I had to be the prince and get saved.
post #16 of 41
Oh wow!! that looks AWESOME!!!!!!!!!! : YAY for REAL animation coming back!! I'm a big fan of Pixar but quite frankly I love me some old school disney, nothing like seeing that BEAUTIFUL animation (a la Beauty and the Beast)
post #17 of 41
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Thought I'd bump up this thread since I just saw a new video with John Lasseter and the directors of the movie talking about their decision to return to 2D animation....for any of you that are super excited to see the return to hand drawn animation, they are SUPER excited too! It's pretty cool actually.

Here's the vid: http://www.awntv.com/videos/the-prin...rog-featurette
post #18 of 41
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Yeah, I feel you on that. I LOVED Disney as a kid, and still do, honestly, though I have a weird guilt about it. I liked Mulan, but at the end her "Happy Ending" was getting the guy. T
Technically, her happy ending was being at home with her family secure in the knowledge that they wouldn't be killed by Mongols. The guy was a bonus.
post #19 of 41
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Originally Posted by St. Margaret View Post
...Belle does become a princess.
I thought the Beast was at best a Duke.
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I thought the Beast was at best a Duke.
Nope, in the opening credits it refers to him as a prince. At least he wasn't a handsome prince. I always thought he was a lot cooler as a beast.
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