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post #1 of 8
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I need some help. I know a young woman who is pregnant and she recently confided in me that she and her husband plan on circumcising their child if he is a boy.

The reason she confided in me is because she was very disturbed after some people she knows on a message board (not this one, I hope ) jumped her unexpectedly, calling her a child abuser, saying circ is mutilation, etc. You know the drill. She was shocked and hurt by the response and thought that I would be sympathetic, having circumcised DS1.

Well, I told her that I'd actually come to regret circumcising my firstborn and that my DP and I chose to leave our second son intact. I spoke a bit about the function of a foreskin and attempted to dispel (gently) a few common myths she believes. I told her how I'd spent hours in the university library looking up information about circumcision before I made my decision not to circ DS2, and I relayed some of the things I read.

But I'm still worried that she might decide to circ anyhow. I would like to give her a link to a web page where the bare facts are laid out, but I have been disappointed in most of the pages I've seen. Is there anything out there with great information that also meets the following standards?

-Absolutely no snarkiness or condescension. While I love the info on http://oknocirc.blogspot.com, I also think it comes across a bit like "Gosh, you sure are dumb for believing these myths...but let me enlighten you!" and the "don't worry, your son's foreskin is not some kind of python" comment on http://www.circumstitions.com/Itsaboy.html is similarly offensive. I realize many people love these pages, but I've known this mama for a long time and that sort of voice would not go over well with her.

-Very professional looking. Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable handing out links to the Nocirc site, because the old-fashioned layout gives it a feel of quackiness. (Just my opinion... no flames, please. : )

If there's no source like this... well, I think there should be! The no circ position deserves a strong, compassionate, and polished presentation.

TIA! ...and I'm sorry if my opinions on these popular resources are hurtful in any way. I really don't seek to offend. I just want something different.
post #2 of 8
www.intactamerica.org

www.cirp.org

These are great sites for info! They have pamphlets and nothing that could be offensive. Just the facts, that is all that is needed to show that circ is unnecessary and harmful.
post #3 of 8
While this site isn't anticirc it is very straight forward, and since it is from the Canadian Pediatric Society it is clearly nonbaised and has mainstream respectability.
http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/preg...rcumcision.htm
post #4 of 8
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Originally Posted by Sasharna View Post
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-Absolutely no snarkiness or condescension. While I love the info on http://oknocirc.blogspot.com, I also think it comes across a bit like "Gosh, you sure are dumb for believing these myths...but let me enlighten you!" and the "don't worry, your son's foreskin is not some kind of python" comment on http://www.circumstitions.com/Itsaboy.html is similarly offensive. I realize many people love these pages, but I've known this mama for a long time and that sort of voice would not go over well with her.

-Very professional looking. Sorry, but I don't feel comfortable handing out links to the Nocirc site, because the old-fashioned layout gives it a feel of quackiness. (Just my opinion... no flames, please. : )

If there's no source like this... well, I think there should be! The no circ position deserves a strong, compassionate, and polished presentation.

TIA! ...and I'm sorry if my opinions on these popular resources are hurtful in any way. I really don't seek to offend. I just want something different.
I understand what you're saying I'll give it some thought today, what about the nocirc pamphlets, you can print them off and they contain good information and don't have the style problems you describe, at least I don't think they do.

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/

ETA: I like the overall story BTW, your friend was mad at others, confided in you and found that you were, "One of them". Though kinder.
post #5 of 8
Personally, I don't send links that are from doc, cirp, nocirc, noharm, or any anticirc website because I know that many will dismiss them out of hand due to the web address. I also don't use mothering.com links depending on the mom if I think she will have the attitude "that's for hippies"...However, my favorite reference from an anticirc site is this pamphlet from colorado nocirc:
http://www.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php

I am trying to collect other links and I haven't found what you are asking for yet! Maybe start here:
http://parenting.ivillage.com/newbor...,,j8v1,00.html

Here are others:
http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2008...re-than-a-Snip
http://www.parentinghelpme.com/paren...point-of-view/
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealt...rcumcision.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445429,00.html
http://pediatrics.about.com/cs/weekl...022002_ask.htm
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/9985.html
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...cs%3b103/3/686

If you decide to circumcise (anesthesia):
http://www.drgreene.com/21_759.html
http://www.aspmn.org/pdfs/Pediatric%20Circumcision.pdf
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../full/101/6/e5

If you decide not to circumcise:
http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/...ageS652P0.html

I also like the Bullshit video by Penn and Teller.
post #6 of 8
Men's Health Magazine article:
http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm

Mothering.com's The Case Against Circumcision:
http://www.coloradonocirc.org/stats/.../pamphlets.php
post #7 of 8
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Originally Posted by beru View Post
Personally, I don't send links that are from doc, cirp, nocirc, noharm, or any anticirc website because I know that many will dismiss them out of hand due to the web address. I also don't use mothering.com links depending on the mom if I think she will have the attitude "that's for hippies"...However, my favorite reference from an anticirc site is this pamphlet from colorado nocirc:
http://www.coloradonocirc.org/pamphlets.php

I am trying to collect other links and I haven't found what you are asking for yet! Maybe start here:
http://parenting.ivillage.com/newbor...,,j8v1,00.html

Here are others:
http://www.chronogram.com/issue/2008...re-than-a-Snip
http://www.parentinghelpme.com/paren...point-of-view/
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealt...rcumcision.htm
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,445429,00.html
http://pediatrics.about.com/cs/weekl...022002_ask.htm
http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/9985.html
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org...cs%3b103/3/686

If you decide to circumcise (anesthesia):
http://www.drgreene.com/21_759.html
http://www.aspmn.org/pdfs/Pediatric%20Circumcision.pdf
http://pediatrics.aappublications.or.../full/101/6/e5

If you decide not to circumcise:
http://www.childrenshospital.org/az/...ageS652P0.html

I also like the Bullshit video by Penn and Teller.
I'm sorry. After I posted I found that many of these links are broken. This is a good reminder that I should try to keep them updated. I'll try to find the true links and post them.
post #8 of 8
Here's a good gentle one that I often use:

http://www.naturalfamilyonline.com/5...rcumcision.htm
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