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2 under 2, LO has reflux, and no support

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I never thought I'd be posting here, yet I know this is the forum where I belong for the moment.....

Things have been bad for awhile, so I guess I'll start at the beginning.

DH is in the military and we move alot. ODS was born in the UK. I had an emergency c/s with him, and he nearly died during delivery. The military hospital had no NICU so he was rushed to one and I never saw him until I was well enough to be released. When I did, I was head over heels in love. My ealy months of being a mother were pure joy. :

He didn't really take a bottle, and he had severe seperation anxiety, which I am convinced is due to his early seperation from me. In any case, I never got a break from him his first year. Until he was 12-14 months old, he cried if DH even held him. I did okay with the 24/7 care of him until we were doing a big international move from the UK back to the US last summer. ODS was going through a bad sleep regression and would be up all night nursing. The serious sleep deprivation got to me and I'd say that is when I first started feeling depressed.

The day after we arrived in the US, he went on a nursing strike. I pumped and pumped and foought to get him back to the breast, but the my milk dried up.....which turned out to be due to pregnancy. Through my pregnancy, I dreaded the arrival of YDS. ODS was 11 months when I got my BFP and as he grew, he became more and more spirited. With my morning sickness and pregnancy exhuastion, I had trouble keeping up with ODS, and knew it would be much worse when YDS arrived.

YDS came and things are even worse than I feared. YDS has reflux and cries nearly constantly. He barely ever sleeps, and when he does, he needs to be touching me. The constant crying has pushed my fragile emotional state over the edge. I feel like a terrible mother and like things will never get any better. I have tried everything to help deal with YDS's crying and nothing works. I have resorted to simply holding him and allowing him to cry himself to sleep when he starts crying and I know it is because he is tired. I just spent an hour on the bed with him, holding him, patting him, and sometimes nursing him while he cried basically non-stop until he fell asleep. With me dealing with YDS so much, I feel like I am neglecting ODS who is only 21 months old. I wear YDS in a carrier on the front and try to play with ODs, but he wants me to play on the floor--if I sit still, YDS starts screaming more which upsets ODS and causes him to cry too. I have tried to get us all out of the house, but ODS always ends up throwing a huge tantrum and I am asked to leave or people come rushing over to help me saying things like "you really have your hands full" or "you poor thing." It is embarrassing.

We don't have alot of family in the area and DH works alot so I don't get much of a break. I've tried talking to friends from home (where I grew up) and they tell me things like it is all in my mind or that I have made my mind up that parenting is hard and I am making more it than it is.....none of these people have two kids under the age of two.....and none of them have had a spirited child OR one with reflux....let alone both at the same time.

I hate that I am not enjoying my second's son's newborn period, especially since I doubt we'll have any more kids.

Any words of wisdom and encouragement would be VERY appreciated.
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post #3 of 15
Oh my goodness, I saw your post and I had to reply. First of all, hugs to you. I know EXACTLY how you feel, my daughters are 20 months apart. DD1 was kind of high-needs, DD2 had reflux that made her cry A LOT! It was so hard. My dh isn't in the military, but at the time when dd2 was born he was working 80 hours a week, so when he was home he was exhausted and only added to my stress level because he wasn't of very much help. neither child wanted him anyway, they both just wanted me. DD2 constantly had to be held as an infant. She basically lived in a moby wrap for her first 4 months, then we switched to an ergo. I felt guilty because I wasn't able to give DD1 the attention she needed and deserved. She didn't understand. When I would sit down and try to play with her she wanted me to put the baby down. When dd2 screamed because I wasn't walking/bouncing/rocking/patting, dd1 would get upset and cry too. DD2 only wanted me, she screamed terribly if anyone else held her, so no one was really willing to take her for a little bit to give me time with DD1. There were times when we all cried, literally.

BUT, it gets better!!! I promise! DD2 is now 15 months old and DD1 will be 3 on Sunday. They are best friends, they play together adn allow me to get stuff done. Now I'm really glad they're so close in age. Sure, they have their little squabbles, but for the most part they play really nicely and really seem to enjoy each other's company.

Are you doing anything about your son's reflux? You might want to consider Zantac, or another infant-approved antacid. Although I'm not into medicating babies, reflux is really painful and no one should have to feel that if there's something that can be done for them. DD2 took started on zantac when she was 6 months old. She didn't need it for long, she outgrew her reflux and became a much happier baby.

And for your depression, are you taking anything? You might really benefit from an antidepressant. I know how you feel, and it is terrible, to say the least. It is just soooo hard to have 2 high-needs babies. I started lexapro when dd2 was 6 months old. It did wonders for me. I really hated the idea of it, but things were getting so bad, I literally felt like I was losing my mind. I was scared of the future, I felt I couldn't go on. I was emotionally, mentally, and physically exhausted. I only took it for a few months, and things got easier as the girls grew. The first 6 months were the hardest. But as the baby grew and developed, things got a little tiny bit easier all the time. When she could sit up I would put her on the floor with toys and the 3 of us would play. When she could crawl she was able to follow me to some extent and her seperation anxiety decreased a little. She became very interested in DD1 and her toys, and put alot of effort into getting into her things. This made her less clingy to me and I was then able to hold/cuddle DD1 more, which made her behavior much nicer. When DD2 could walk it got dramatically better, as that's when she and DD1 could really play together.

You will find that things will get better with time. I know it's hard to wait. Hang in there. Seriously, if you just need someone to talk to, who understands what you're going through, feel free to pm me. If you want I'll give you my number and you can call me. Of course we don't know each other, but that's ok, I'd be happy to help another mom out. Having gone through what you are going through, I would love to help.

Take care!
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post #5 of 15
to you.
post #6 of 15
I second the medication suggestions. At least for the short term. Also, a friend found that eliminating dairy from her diet helped her dc's reflux a lot (along with meds).
post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
I appreciate the hugs.

I tried eliminating dairy and it didn't matter. YDS is on Zantac and while it has decreased the crying, it isn't helped with sleep and he still cries about 3 hours a day (before it was in the vicinity of 6-7 hours a day).

I started on Sam-E and am hoping to see my PCM soon to talk about medication for me.
post #8 of 15
Make sure to inquire regularly about increasing the dose/changing reflux meds as he gains weight. My DD outgrew her initial dose rather quickly but once she was adjusted and switched months later she was more comfortable.

If you are open to medication for yourself, go as soon as possible. If you can't get an appointment, tell them on the phone why you need to be seen so they might bump it up or refer you to a more immediate appointment. It will take up to 4 weeks to get the full effect of most antidepressants, and you deserve to be taken care of. Take the children with you to the Dr's office if need be. They may well be impossible and cry, but if you're like me you will cry at that appointment either way. I was relieved to be getting help I knew I needed, and the tears flowed heavily as the Rx was being written. I also took Omega 3 everyday, as recommended by the MD. I think it was 3 capsules/day, purified fish oil (Nordic Naturals) or Flax Seed oil, while BF. Also, have your Thyroid bloodwork checked. Mine fluctuated several times within the 6 months postpartum, and this has a dramatic effect on mood.

It is hard, and people who haven't had a reflux baby or similar just can't understand - and having a spirited toddler in addition means that you need to put yourself first so that you will be able to take care of these two babies. You are a wonderful Mom for taking such good care of your children, and to keep that up you must take care of yourself.

Take care, dear heart.
post #9 of 15
My older daughters are 16 months apart. My ex dh wasn't in the military, but he was on call for work (often out of town) and I didn't drive at the time. I had terrible PPD. I can't say for sure that I know how you feel, but I can offer some commiseration.

Talk therapy with a psychologist was the best thing I could have done for myself and my kids. Even if you do take an antidepressant - I can't stress enough how important it is to get good therapy as well.

Take care of yourself.
post #10 of 15
Same here-I've got 2 under two with my little girl being a very spirited one and my 6 week old having bad reflux. The doctor prescribed Zantac for him yesterday and I read the info that came with it and it pretty much won't fix the reflux but it cuts down on the acid in his tummy to stop the burning. At this point--it's too early to tell if it is helping him. He has terrible gas pains and grunts/arches his back constantly even though I burp him. I don't know what to do to make him more comfortable. My hubby picked him up about an hour ago and held him in the football hold and gently rocked him up and down and it was amazing how that calmed him. If DD would just stop screaming from her crib he might would fall to sleep.

Have you tried the video 'The Happiest Baby on the Block'? It it about soothing a colicy baby so it may be worth a try...You can find it on Amazon.com

Good luck to you...
post #11 of 15
Hi!

Im so sorry you are going through this. Wish I could hug you IRL.
Im SURE youve tried this but the nurses told me a couple things for reflux. You know Sophia has it BAD and the Zantac offers some relief but not much and she doesnt burp. At all. (comes out the other end) Instead of cradling her, I sit her straight up on my knee and hold her up. Last night she was fussy and fell asleep in (not joking) 30 seconds. Another thing is a pillow to prop the baby up. Her bed goes up now but were supposed to put a wedge or pillow under her sheet. (Ask a doctor)

Sorry i dont have any magic words but you CAN do this! :
post #12 of 15
I have heard there are some physical things that can be done, usually by alternative providors like a craniosacral therapist, that can really help with reflux. I recall someone saying that reflux and tongue tie are related as well, although I don't know where the thread went. A lot of practitioners don't know much about tongue tie, so you have to go by word of mouth. You can look in Finding Your Tribe under your area.
Here are some links about reflux:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...x+craniosacral
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...x+craniosacral
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...x+craniosacral
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...x+craniosacral
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by adlib77 View Post

Talk therapy with a psychologist was the best thing I could have done for myself and my kids. Even if you do take an antidepressant - I can't stress enough how important it is to get good therapy as well.
I second this, you know I'm going to a therapist. My situation is different but it sounds like your getting some good empathy from some other 2 under 2 mamas...Hold tight to what LuckyGreen said...she's proof it does get better. YOU CAN AND WILL DO THIS! YOU ARE A GREAT MOM BECAUSE YOU CARE SOOOO MUCH BOUT YOUR CHILDREN!!!!
post #14 of 15
mama! I have btdt with the reflux. Zantac helped my lo hugely, but not everyone does it. There are several things I can tell you that helped besides Zantac... craniosacral massage treatments did lots of good, propping the head of his bed up as high as possible (you can't get it too high), try taking soy and dairy out of your diet,

If the Zantac is not helping much, there are other meds that may do a much better job. We had to switch several months ago bc Z quit working. (also see if your dose of Zantac can be increased...)

But above all else, get help for you. You won't regret it. You need your wits about you to take good care of your babies.
post #15 of 15
I hate the whole blame the mother for feeling bad crap. you're under tremendous stress, not sleeping, with no support, of course you feel bad! it is hard; it's NOT in your head. grrr.....

I know it's hard to get out but you have to - even if it's just for a walk around the block or to a playground. Can you get to a LLL meeting at least? Or maybe a moms group on base?

My first two were 17mos aprt. I feel for you. One thing that really helped was getting the older one into a MMO program for a couple mornings a week. It gave him some much needed socialization and me some quiet(er) time.

Try again on the dairy - and not just milk but ALL milk proteins (casseinate) that are in a lot of foods. I can take a good 2-3 weeks for it to work out of your system and for you to see any difference. It's really hard to do; I tried last time and felt like I was starving constantly. I added lots of nuts to my diet to make sure I was getting the fats and proteins I needed.

Can you get a mothers helper in the house with you a couple afternoons a week? Someone to hold and walk with your little one while you spend one on one time with your older son?

Definitely get in to a therapist as soon as possible. It really will help whether or not you go the meds route.
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