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Naysayers and Homebirth

post #1 of 15
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I just need to vent where people will understand. Not many people in my life 'get' my choice to have a homebirth. My parents just smile and nod, but at least they don't have negative comments. My mother in law reamed me yesterday over the choice to pay for a midwife and told me I should just go to the hospital (where it's covered by insurance) to have my birth. She was pretty mean. I cried until I threw up at which point she ignored me and we left

It's just so frustrating! I'm so tired of having to defend why I am working so hard to have a homebirth. I'm tired of people trying to make me feel guilty for spending all this money on the birth. No one understands why it's so important, what I am trying to avoid in the hospital. They either think I am a crazy hippie or just a frivolous idiot.
post #2 of 15
You've done your research, and you know what is the safest and best choice for you. I turn it around on people, "Why on Earth would I put my child and me at risk just because it's cheaper?"

"What if there's a problem?" "There is more likely to be a problem if I'm in a hospital. Why would I want my infant with no immune system in a place where the sickest people in the world are residing? Why would I want to give birth in a place where by just stepping INTO it my risk of dying skyrockets?"

See what I mean? Then tell them that if they want to discuss it with you - they need to do their homework first that you will NOT have an argument with them because of their fear-based ignorance.

(I guess five children and ten years of mothering have made me a bit more to the point. )
post #3 of 15
I have to agree with PP. My mother-in-law is a wonderful woman and I have a great relationship with her. But she is a retired trauma nurse and used to work in NICU units when babies were in distress. As you can imagine, the news didn't go over well with her at all. She didn't say mean or horrible things, but it was the worst feeling in the world feeling like she disapproved of our choice to HB and yes, it started to instill unnecessary fear into DH and I. All the 'what-if's' started to surface.

Our chiropractor had all four of her babies at home with the same MW I have. She's been a big help and when I asked her what we can do or say to defend ourselves when this happens, she gave me the best advice I've ever gotten: Don't ever defend yourself! This is YOUR birth and your baby's life in YOUR hands, no one else. Instead, approach everything from an education standpoint. Offer to give information on HB and discuss the risks of both hospital and HBs. Most people operate on a level of fear of HB simply because they know nothing about HB, or what they think they know is wrong and way off base. If she doesn't want to hear what you have to say, end the conversation and draw your line - let her know you refuse to have these stressful arguments or situations where you have to defend your decision. Each time she brings up the conversation, offer calmly to give her the facts and the info, and again, stop the conversation if she attacks you. She might never come around, or she might at least come to the point where she just doesn't say anything at all.

The bottom line is, you don't need the added stress. Your birth needs to be something you look forward to and enjoy. Don't let anyone take that from you.

I'm happy to report my MIL has come around and decided to support us in our HB decision. I'm pretty sure that if she still had it her way, she'd prefer we birthed in a hospital. But she has a MW friend that she spoke to and asked questions and that helped bring her around some. Others still sneer when they speak of our HB. But the way I see it, what good am I doing my baby and I if I caved and gave up my HB? I would never be able to forgive myself if I caved under pressure and ended up in some senseless intervention in a hospital simply because everyone else felt they knew what was best for me.

I know this is hard, but maintaining a gentle stance on this will probably have more effect than being combative with the naysayers. Sometimes time is all that is needed. My MIL admitted that seeing our enthusiasm and relaxation and confidence toward our birth really made her see that this is the right decision for US, even if it wasn't for her (she had all three of her kids by scheduled c-section). Most women dread labor and delivery, so she was shocked by how excited and looking forward to our birth I am.

Hang in there. Your birth will be amazing. You're a strong woman.
post #4 of 15
Whenever you are going against a powerful social force, you will get people who are very nasty about it because they feel threatened.
post #5 of 15
I would refuse to speak to your MIL without a serious apology : ...then later, if she can behave herself, let her speak to your mw.
post #6 of 15
I'm planning my first homebirth...I expressed my desire for this months before I got pregnant...at least with my own mother and my aunts and some close friends.

i love my MIL very much...she is a wonderful woman, but she is very much into "traditional medical" and maybe I should have more faith in her, but I have feeling she would freak out if I told her we were planning a homebirth. Although, she is DEFINITELY not the type to intefere at all, why make her have needless worry (cause she would definitely worry)? So, honestly, if I can avoid it, I just don't plan on telling her about he homebirth, at least until it's almost time to deliver!!!

I think I would do the same for any other family member or friend who I felt might try to be a naysayer. Then when it's all over...I'd tell the whole world my baby was born in the comfort of his/her own home!
post #7 of 15
I haven't told many people yet about our plans for a homebirth. I told my sister and she didn't say much, just surprised.
My good friend knows and she's not being mean about it she's just concerned. She's been working in the NICU for the past several months and they had a couple of HB transfers come to the hospital where the babies didn't make it. She's worried because we're moving there and she was concerned about the lack of state certification of midwives there. I've had to educate her on the experience and education midwives do receive and national certification they can acquire. That it is no different with any care provider you have, you need to ask questions, do your homework and feel confident in their capabilities before you choose one. I'm hoping if we do move she will come around. She was at my first birth and I'd love her there for this one, but I need her on board and not worrying in the corner, KWIM?
post #8 of 15
There's nothing to defend. You've done your research and made your decision. Your MIL sounds pretty abusive and if I were in your shoes I'd limit my contact with her at least until the baby is born, and then even maybe keep visits short and infrequent after that. Someone who would make a pregnant woman cry to the point of vomiting and then show not a whisper of shame or remorse afterwards is not someone I'd allow into my life on more than a very superficial level.

Trust yourself, mama. You don't need to bring her around, because it's none of her damn business. I'm sorry if I seem harsh but few things make me angrier than people who cruelly try to bully and frighten us while we are pregnant. There is no excuse for such reprehensible behavior.

post #9 of 15
Let me be clear that I support you in your decision to birth at home 100%, I think it is important to consider how these family members' feelings may effect you during your birthing time. That's not to say you should change your plans, but you may want to reflect on it, so you are prepared should it play into the circumstances of your birth.

I too, had family members concerned by our choice. But they were respectful enough to keep (mostly) to themselves AND we had the added benefit of living 1000 miles from them. So no one was expected the day of the birth or even soon thereafter.

The key point that seemed to resonate with my naysayers was the fact that my midwife would be with me and only me the whole time. If there were any issues, she would be much more attentive and able to support me in the clinically appropriate way than the doctor who I may or may not have a relationship with who is managing more than one woman in a big facility.

I send you good, calm thoughts and energy. And I wish you a peaceful, transformative birthing experience.
post #10 of 15
Oh man, I hear you!! Except I haven't told many people IRL that we're planning a homebirth because I just don't need the negative energy that I KNOW I'll get. Oh man, I got enough from just telling my mother (who happens to be a L&D nurse too and is "okay with homebirth, just not for someone she cares about" Ummm.... okay....). It's a lot harder for people to be negative about it when you already have your perfect baby in the world.

Honestly, though, I refuse to debate people. To those, including my mom, I will tell them the facts if they want them, but beyond that, it is not up for discussion and if they are going to be negative they can go. So my mom learned a long time ago to keep her opinions to herself. I'm actually glad i told her early on in my pregnancy because now she's sort of "used to" the idea. We don't talk about it at all. She doesn't support me, but she isn't going to bug me I guess? Whatever.

I go to a prenatal yoga class where people are very supportive of it (even though most are having hospital births) and I have some friends that have had homebirths (not many, but enough!) and that has helped me a lot! Surround yourself by positiveness during your pregnancy!
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by lindsayjean View Post
I haven't told many people IRL that we're planning a homebirth because I just don't need the negative energy that I KNOW I'll get. !
I am SO glad I didn't tell people. I tried not to straight up lie, and just divert the conversation, but I was willing to lie my butt off to avoid the uneducated comments.

Maybe you could just say - "wow you are right! I have decided to go to ----- hospital". That should shut them up.

Then just call after the baby comes. My line was "I didn't want you to worry" and "I know you didn't have enough time to research it, so I didn't want to burden you"

Good luck mama. HB is the best decision I ever made.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by peainthepod View Post
There's nothing to defend. You've done your research and made your decision. Your MIL sounds pretty abusive and if I were in your shoes I'd limit my contact with her at least until the baby is born, and then even maybe keep visits short and infrequent after that. Someone who would make a pregnant woman cry to the point of vomiting and then show not a whisper of shame or remorse afterwards is not someone I'd allow into my life on more than a very superficial level.

Trust yourself, mama. You don't need to bring her around, because it's none of her damn business. I'm sorry if I seem harsh but few things make me angrier than people who cruelly try to bully and frighten us while we are pregnant. There is no excuse for such reprehensible behavior.
This. Entirely. There is no excuse for this. One thing I have to ask is where your husband is in all this. Maybe I missed that somewhere, but I know my DH wouldn't stand for his mother to treat me the way you have been treated. I agree that you need to distance yourself from this woman, and maybe even put your DH between you. I personally feel it is a husband's and father's job to protect his family first, especially if the onslaught is coming from his own family.

Sorry you have had to deal with this, and I understand about the money. We are paying $3300 out of pocket for our HB, when the hospital would have charged a $200 co-pay and covered the rest entirely. Hang in there, Mama! You can't put a price on such a huge life event. Hugs!
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by peainthepod View Post
There's nothing to defend. You've done your research and made your decision. Your MIL sounds pretty abusive and if I were in your shoes I'd limit my contact with her at least until the baby is born, and then even maybe keep visits short and infrequent after that. Someone who would make a pregnant woman cry to the point of vomiting and then show not a whisper of shame or remorse afterwards is not someone I'd allow into my life on more than a very superficial level.

Trust yourself, mama. You don't need to bring her around, because it's none of her damn business. I'm sorry if I seem harsh but few things make me angrier than people who cruelly try to bully and frighten us while we are pregnant. There is no excuse for such reprehensible behavior.

You're totally right, and that's exactly what I plan on doing. I think part of the reason why she felt so angry at the money spent on the homebirth (this appears to be her main issue with it) is that she and her husband have helped/help us out with money so she feels she has the right to tell us how to manage our finances. We've decided to pull the kids out of preschool (which she was paying for) and no longer accept *any* help. I also made it clear to my husband that her behavior is not acceptable (he agreed) and should not be tolerated by us.

I suppose earlier when I said "defend" I used the wrong word, I actually only said to her during this conversation "I could give you all the reasons why we have chosen to have a homebirth, but I don't think it would help, you're not going to agree" (she had already started ignoring me by the time I got to this point). I also mentioned to her that we had paid a good chunk of the birth out of our tax return (also ignored). I've somewhat defended my position to friends or my own family, but they mostly had a smile-and-nod reaction.

To be totally fair to my MIL (who I agree is extremely critical, borderline abusive, and passive aggressive), I have hyperemesis and bipolar disorder, so maybe she thought the vomiting would have happened anyway (it was my nose filling up with snot from crying that triggered the vomiting). She hasn't seen me cry that many times over the years but it's possible she's among the "she's too sensitive" crowd. Which I think is still wrong. I definitely have reflected on her position on this whole thing, I can understand that she feels like she is giving us money and we are just wasting it on frivolous things, which made her angry. It still doesn't excuse the way she treated me though.

My husband is totally supportive of the homebirth becuase he knows how important it is to me. He probably would be just as happy if not happier had I chosen to deliver in the hospital because of the money factor, but I drilled in the statistics in his head enough times that he is comfortable with the safety of homebirth, realizes it's the better choice, ect.

He did defend me somewhat during this altercation with my MIL (which started when we were talking about buying a new car that will fit all the kids in it) by saying we really do need a new car, but he was out of the room for most of it and didn't say anything to her when we were leaving, even though I had just thrown up (and peed my pants at the same time) and was still crying. They both kind of pretended it wasn't happening (typical in that family, they are the ultimate avoiders). We talked in the car though and have spoken later and he is at least on my side. Whether or not he'll stand up to his mother in my defense is unknown.

I have actually stood up to this woman once, told her how hurtful her constant criticism and cruel comments can be...she promptly got up and left my house. I limited interaction with her for over a year after that. I thought things had improved, but now we are right back to where we used to be I feel really torn about it becuase this is the same woman who is wonderful to my children, who has given us thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of help over the years, who does a lot of nice things for us but at the same time continues to treat me this way. It's very confusing/frustrating.
post #14 of 15
It does not matter what others think, even your MIL. If she cannot offer support then I'd have the subject closed to further discussion. I have BTDT, it isn't worth my effort b/c I know what is best for my family and myself, no one else can truly know that, even my own family.
post #15 of 15
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It does not matter what others think, even your MIL. If she cannot offer support then I'd have the subject closed to further discussion. I have BTDT, it isn't worth my effort b/c I know what is best for my family and myself, no one else can truly know that, even my own family.
I agree, and I don't plan on discussing it with her again.
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