|Originally posted by its_our_family
I have also heard that most mws are in it so they don't have to go to medical school. (Not saying I believe it at all...but it said but I do believe that there are mws out there that are as dangerous as some obs)
Yeah, I responded to the ignorant comment above made by your chiropractor in another thread that you posted it on before.
I would NEVER make it through medical school. Not because I'm not smart enough or not because I don't want to invest the time, it's just that I don't always agree with western medicine's heroic savior attitiude. (I don't vaccinate my child, I don't believe in the liberal use of antibiotics, among other "radical" things that would never keep me paying money to attend a school that tried to teach me the exact opposite). CNMs, in essence, DO attend medical school. Through nursing and their clinicals, these all take place within the medical model.
That said, I'm sorry you got stuck with some egotistical CNMs. You live in a state that is hostile to homebirth midwives and I'm sure the CNMs are not willing to align themselves with anything but the medical model.
Still, hearing it from one outrageous, egotistical chiropractor (who sounds pretty full of himself from the way you have talked about him) does not make it so. Please remember that. I find the repeating of that - especially because you SAY you don't believe it - so offensive.
This thread is interesting, because nobody is saying that you cannot have a normal, beautiful birth with an OB. Nobody is saying that all homebirth midwives are peaceful and accurate with their information. We cannot - and should not - make blanket statements. However, "most" is a term that we need to look at - and see where the information is coming from.
I get most concerned about the consumers. With all the VBAC backlash (totally NOT evidence based, but all about CYA in lawsuits, nevermind not looking at what inductions like cytotec or prostaglandin gels do to ruptures!), the push for more cesareans, the push for inductions, etc., I'm wondering that women are getting exactly what they are demanding.
Your care provider in pregnancy is your partner, hired help. They are NOT Gods, nor are they the ones that should be making all the choices in your care. However, so many women do not want to take responsibility for their choices. It's a reason why our malpractice rates are SO HIGH - women turn over the power, the doctors gladly accept that power and then BOOM! Women are upset over the outcome. Granted, women are not given choices ("we're going to break your water now to speed things up"; "the epidural has very few risks to you and NONE of the medicine gets to the baby") about their care.
Whose "fault" is it? It's all of ours. That's why it's so heartening to see women educating themselves and learning about their choices - whether they choose a repeat cesarean, an epidural, or a homebirth. It's great to see women pointing out erroneous attitudes about birth and our bodies.
I'm not sure where this current train of thinking will lead, but I have no doubt that it will continue to get worse before getting better. I'm willing to stick it out and trust that all of us will have an easier time - including those OBs (and get back to practicing evidence-based medicine, rather than fear-based medicine) and women about to birth.