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post #1 of 11
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Seeking advice again on baby showers.

Here's the deal: We're planning a large Big Sister Party for our daughter who is 5, in recognition of her new role. We have asked people not to bring presents, just a potluck dish. It's mostly going to be DD's school friends and their parents, but a few of our own friends with babies too.

I thought I'd do this instead of a shower, but now I'm feeling sort of sad about the possibility of not having one. I know a lot of people don't have showers for their 2nd, but we live in a different town so none of these people were at our first. A downside is that my very close friends are hippies, lol, and they wouldn't throw me the type of shower I really like (traditional), they would throw me a Blessingway, and only if I asked. So I'd really be having to throw it myself. And then, because I don't know a lot of people, there would only be 5-10 guests. Our apartment is much too small, too, so we'd have to throw it at a park pavillion.

I wonder if it would even be appropriate with the traditional shower in mind...I could see throwing my own "no present" blessingway, but aside from really needing baby stuff since our first child is 5 and we didn't keep much, I also am just craving a traditional shower. Also, is it wrong to invite people to both, or should we just have them at one or the other?

What would you do?
post #2 of 11
Hmmmm... I think you could do both a big sister party and a traditional shower since the focus would be different. A potluck/picnic party for your older child is obviously focused on the child and on the social gathering element. While a traditional shower is going to be focused more on you and your new babe.

I know the books say you shouldn't shower a second child but there is a big age gap here and that should count for something. And personally I think every babe to be and pregnant mama deserves a party! Getting a traditional shower may be harder though... you're right that you'd probably need to either throw it yourself or find someone who will agree to basically follow your list or a traditional shower book plan. And in a park it may be harder to do some of the games... you'd have to make sure the person throwing the shower had really planned ahead (so a laundry basket of "filled diapers" for the sniff test game as well as bags to clean up after, a basket filled with "mystery baby food" for taste test guessing, a bag of baby bottles and a non-carbonated beverage for bottle races, crepe paper for measuring the belly, etc) and that the games could be done in public without too much embarassment! In terms of online registries... there are some local shops that offer registry options that may provide a middle ground for the more "hippie" element to still meet your needs.

Or if by "traditional" you're thinking more along the lines of a woman only tea party... perhaps arrange something with a local shop (along the lines of saying "there will be a party of 10 at such and such a time") and then offering a selection of teas and cookies? That style of shower is pretty traditional but doesn't involve as much "work" in terms of games and may again make a meeting point between traditional and "hippie".

Good luck!
post #3 of 11
I was in the same boat. My son is 4 1/2 and we gave everything away. I would personally not throw one for myself, it would feel to much like asking people for presents. My friends are throwing me one but do not seem that into it so I am a little bummed and have thought about just canceling it, but we'll go ahead with it, I am sure.

I would hint at it to some friends, and if they offer a blessingway then say flat out you would prefer a real shower. They're your good friends, right? They should be asking you what you want anyways.

I hope you get one!
post #4 of 11
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I would personally not throw one for myself, it would feel to much like asking people for presents.
I see that sentiment a lot (you just phrased it really well ) and that's the bit that confuses me about baby showers... I guess I just don't see the difference between a baby shower and other celebrations where gifts are involved.

I mean people/etiquette books have no qualms about individuals/families hosting birthday parties, weddings, anniversary parties, bar or bat mitzvahs, first communions and confirmations, quinceañeras, etc where there is (often) an expectation of a gift or a gift registry. The unspoken contract seems to be "I throw the party/feed/entertain you, you bring a gift of value basically equal to the per person cost of the party". But somehow baby showers are in their own class.

It's something I've often wondered about (as an anthropologist focused on women's rituals)... is it because baby showers have traditionally been "women only" events and the rules of "being womanly" are in full force (so no "looking greedy" by throwing your own shower)? Or because until recently most pregnant women were part of formal social structures and wouldn't have "needed" to plan their own shower unless there was something wrong with them personally/socially (though etiquette around weddings has changed and the "bride's family pays all" attitude is fading quickly)? Because the focus is split between the pregnant woman and her unborn babe (which would explain why it's ok to throw a first bday party but not a shower)? Or some residual feeling that pregnancy is an inappropriate topic for discussion so showers are still bound by strict conventions to "protect" people from this (making a shower a liminal passage where ritual conventions must be followed)?

Sorry Raene, I know this post isn't helping you with planning at all and I don't mean to derail the thread... it's just I see this sentiment so often and it makes me curious!
post #5 of 11
We'll, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the name "Baby Shower" come from showering the mother with gifts? I think the party was created for the sole purpose of giving gifts. Where, a blessingway would be totally ok to throw yourself bc the purpose of it is to bless the baby and mother. It would also be totally ok to throw a "Come meet our baby party," knowing that people will bring gifts. The purpose of a party like taht would be to meet and welcome the baby. Not just to get gifts and play token corny games.

Similarly, a wedding's purpose is to unite two people and celebrate that union. But a bridal shower is to pamper the bride and again, shower her with gifts. Therefore, it is okay to plan your own wedding, but not your own bridal shower.

A bachelor party is a form of indulging the groom. Therefore, it is inappropriate for the groom to indulge himself to such a degree, so it is up to his friends to throw it for him.

You also don't throw a bday party for youself, since you would be saying "I am so wonderful, come celebrate me being alive." Instead, you value your family, so you throw bday parties for them. "My husband is the best, let's celebrate him being alive." that is more appropriate.

Ww, I just totally went OT on that. Sorry!
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by Spring Sun View Post
You also don't throw a bday party for youself, since you would be saying "I am so wonderful, come celebrate me being alive." Instead, you value your family, so you throw bday parties for them. "My husband is the best, let's celebrate him being alive." that is more appropriate.

Ww, I just totally went OT on that. Sorry!
Ok , totally see where you are coming from but hey, I throw myself b-day parties. If I don't no one will and I want a party at least once every 5-10 years Then again I am wonderful LOL (joking)
post #7 of 11
I'm with Spring, I couldn't bring myself to throw my own baby shower because I'd feel like I was soliciting gifts and that feels uncomfortable to me.
post #8 of 11
Spring... I wasn't trying to point fingers or make anyone feel defensive or anything like that! (and not throwing your own baby shower, wedding, anniversary, etc is pretty much what every etiquette book says so it's certainly not the minority feeling) It's seriously just something that interests me in a sort of "professional/personal" way (anthro/gender background) and spending a lot of time on a parenting board means I see it in conversations a lot.

(ETA- and I guess when I read "baby shower" I think "shower the baby"... just like "bridal shower" is "shower the bride". Which makes sense to me because the gifts tend to be things for the baby to use like diapers and clothing. Mmmmm.... I wish there was a "mama shower" filled with traditions like "give the mama to be a massage" and games like "stock the fridge"! Maybe we should start a trend?)
post #9 of 11
Well, since you asked for advice.

I can't think of any circumstances where I think it would be appropriate for a momma to throw herself a shower, first or 14th baby. I would inwardly blanch at such an invitation. A shower is by definition a gift-giving event for a new mother to welcome her to motherhood by the community. It is not a party for a new baby. And families do not traditionally host because it looks greedy.

And similiarly, I think a shower generally happens once unless the circumstances are extreme.

But, I think it is fine to host a blessingway (gift free) for any baby or to host a get together after the birth, where are gifts are not expected. And yes, people often bring gifts anyway and I think that is normal and fine.

I am not sorry that I am not having another shower with this baby but I wasn't expecting one. And to be honest, if no one had hosted one for my first I would have been okay with it too. A shower isn't an entitlement program. Sometimes life doesn't offer us exactly what we would enjoy.

Can I also add that I don't really distinguish between first and subsequent babies with my friends. They all pretty much get the same gifts. I bet your friends will be similar.
post #10 of 11
Well, having a second baby shower is really frowned upon where I'm from and I definitly wouldn't throw one for myself.

I do think that if you want to celebrate your second child maybe having a 'meet the baby' type party would be perfectly lovely. That way you would get to celebrate both births but in different ways.
post #11 of 11

I, personally, would never throw myself a shower.


Edited by Mulvah - 10/16/11 at 7:01am
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