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Tell me good things about Akitas, please!

post #1 of 14
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We just bought a dog today. Yes, it was off Craigslist. I was half-heartedly browsing there when we came upon a promising looking ad, and after we met her today, everything really sounded kosher. They need to re-home because the father of the family got hurt on a deployment and they cannot care for their dogs any longer. The owner asked me a *bunch* of questions and she seemed super concerned that we would be a good home, and there was a pretty substantial re-homing fee as well. You could tell she spent a lot of time and love into their two dogs and she really seemed crushed that they had to let them go.

What got me was that they have three kids, a one year old, a two year old, and a five year old. (I have a one y.o and a two year old.) Summer (the pup) was very tolerant and gentle of the kiddos and seems to be a pretty lazy, low-energy dog. From what the lady said, she absolutely 100% trusts her with her kids. That was obviously my biggest concern. She's had the dog since she was a puppy; she's about 6 months now. She's 3/4 akita and 1/4 border collie (I believe those are the percentages) but much smaller than a typical akita; supposedly the vet said she's nearly fully grown (but at 6 months, I'm assuming there will be at least a little more growth, right?).

I was a bit wary of getting an akita because I've heard a lot of them can be aggressive, but really it depends a lot on socialization, right? This dog seemed very well socialized; I asked about other dogs, cats, other kids, walking outside of their own yard, etc. etc. and the owner reassured me that she was basically stellar under all conditions. I know you can't take every word for granted but she really didn't seem to be trying to pass the dog along; if anything, I had to convince HER a bit that we were good candidates. The only problem apparently is that she bolts from the front door sometimes and although she doesn't run into the street, she makes a game of playing catch-me-if-you-can.

Anyway, we're bringing her home in about two weeks' time. I don't have any buyers' remorse so far, but I would like some re-assurance that breeds aren't always fulfilling of their stereotypes. So far every dog (and cat) I've had stuck pretty close to their book descriptions, so I'm a little scared that there might be some hidden aggressive streak in this one, merely because of the breed. But I didn't have any warning bells go off when I met her; I would have walked away immediately if I had any bad feelings, but I didn't. So... chances are we're in the clear, right? I have to admit, I totally fell in love, and so did DD.
post #2 of 14
Stubborn, aggressive toward other dogs, but fiercely loyal and gentle with kids. They have natural guarding instincts, can be stand-offish and aloof (which I don't mind because overly needy dogs drive me bat poop crazy), and require a TON of socialization right from the word go.

The Akita is on my short list for my next dog. I want something big and strong because my next dog will be for carting, but if I still in Florida then I won't be getting an Akita.

I grew up with neighbors who had an Akita and he was AWESOME with us kids, but the down falls were that he was a wonderer when he got loose and he was not reliable around other dogs.
post #3 of 14
Well I hope it works out but I would be looking for a training class to take ASAP. Akitas are great dogs when trained and convinced not to make (bad) decisions on their own, but they are a working breed so I would expect to work/train with her. Every day.
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They need training, but really any dog does Where I used to work we had a lady who had 4 (and 4 kids under 5). They were the best dogs ever....I absolutely loved when they came in as they were such sweeties. They do require lots of exercise and stimulation, and they shed a ton but I always liked them
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Almost 70 views and only 3 replies, I wonder what the other guys were thinking.

Thank you for the advice. I was up all night researching Akitas and honestly I'm not scared away yet. They seem to be very family oriented, which is just fine. I'm a SAHM and we are rarely on the go; we stick pretty close to home.

I do want to definitely socialize the pup. What worried me a little was saying that around 9 months of age they get a personality shift where they become more aggressive; hopefully with enough training and socializing and being prepared for that shift, we can work with that.

Also, I was wondering, what sorts of "jobs" could we give her? I know working dogs like to, well, WORK! But around here we don't have much physical work to be done. Baby-sitting was also a popular Akita job, but I'm not really sure that would be a good idea, to leave her alone with two babies unsupervised? Nah, I don't think so. At least not at first. And we're not really "agility and tricks" sort of people, so I'm trying to brainstorm how I can keep her busy at home and make her feel like she has a job to do. I'd love any ideas!
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by ChampagneBlossom View Post
What worried me a little was saying that around 9 months of age they get a personality shift where they become more aggressive; hopefully with enough training and socializing and being prepared for that shift, we can work with that.
A lot of breeds will have a personality shift when they hit "puberty", and it's stronger in some breeds more than others, and can even vary between the sexes. Usually uneutered males will show the biggest change, but it varies. And you can help maintain an even keel with exercise, training and socialization (in that order, too).

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Also, I was wondering, what sorts of "jobs" could we give her? I know working dogs like to, well, WORK! But around here we don't have much physical work to be done. Baby-sitting was also a popular Akita job, but I'm not really sure that would be a good idea, to leave her alone with two babies unsupervised? Nah, I don't think so. At least not at first. And we're not really "agility and tricks" sort of people, so I'm trying to brainstorm how I can keep her busy at home and make her feel like she has a job to do. I'd love any ideas!
Well, you better warm up to the idea of agility or trick training. If you aren't going to do anything remotely close to the Akita's original job description both of those options run a close second in terms of exercise and mental stimulation.

You might also looking into carting. I converted a radio flyer wagon into a cart, and before my old girl tore up her knee we went EVERYWHERE with it. She loved it, my daughter loved it, the neighbors and people driving by loved it.

(I have pictures and links if you're interested.)
post #7 of 14
This is where I bought my conversion kit (though it doesn't look like they sell it as a kit anymore, you'd have to purchase the shafts, breaks and tree sepperately). Maybe email them and ask?

http://dogworks.com/store/index.html

And here's a picture of us in the front yard.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...g?t=1244651971
post #8 of 14
My beloved Akita/GSD was killed on Monday. We miss her more than anyone can imagine. She was a loyal protector and a gentle friend to my 3 DC. She saved me from a charging brown bear and would sit and "guard" my kids when they played outside. I live in a very rural area and never felt alone with my Thelmie watching over us.
She could be a bit of a butt though. She was pretty nasty to other dogs (we have 3 others) but was trained well enough that she would listen to voice commands when she was aggressive. She also cost us lots of money removing porcupine quills...she was just too stubborn to leave those buggers alone.
She loved to trail run with me and skijor(until she blew out her ACL) she watched the lab fetch sticks like he was total idiot.LOL
I don't know what else to say except I miss my sweet girl...she was a wonderful being.
post #9 of 14
mama crane. I'm so sorry for your loss.

OP - friends of ours had an Akita mix (unsure of the mix, or %) who was fantastic with kids - hers were older, (in grade school) but she also did in home daycare, and her dog was wonderful with the kids, and with passersby, just very friendly and easy-going - but not overly friendly, y'know, not slobbery pet-me pet-me sort of dog.

What comes to mind with the running out the door is some very intensive door manners training - that she is trained to sit at all doors, and must wait for permission to go through. Training doesn't have to be "tricks" - you can focus on manners and obedience, and keep training fun, and a smart dog will eat it up and ask for more. You are keeping them busy and interested, and you will end up with a much better pet. It doesn't have to be time consuming, either - I know what it is like with kids and dogs - you can work at it all through the day, five minutes here, 15 minutes there. But a puppy kindergarten is the best place to start, as well as lots of reading. I love the My Smart Puppy book, as well as everything by Patricia McConnell, (start with Family Friendly Dog Training) and the Monks of New Skete books.

What's her name? Be sure to post pics for us, when you have some!
post #10 of 14
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My beloved Akita/GSD was killed on Monday. We miss her more than anyone can imagine.
I'm very sorry for your loss.

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Training doesn't have to be "tricks" - you can focus on manners and obedience, and keep training fun, and a smart dog will eat it up and ask for more. [snip]

What's her name? Be sure to post pics for us, when you have some!
Yes, this is exactly what I was getting at. I want to train for manners rather than "jump over this fence" and such. Perhaps I'm a bit jaded when it comes to agility training stereotypes. I also should look up the Monks of New Skete book again. I haven't read anything by them in ages, but I used to be a fan.

Her name is Kona, and I will definitely post pics when I get some! :

P.S. - DS started crying but I just wanted to say I love the idea of the carting! How does it work in hilly areas? We live in a very hilly neighborhood.
post #11 of 14
Tricks can be useful things too, such as picking up things for you, carrying them from person to person, etc. One of Chaos' favourite tricks is "recycling" where she brings an item from someone in one part of the house to our recycling bin. You can teach her to put her (or even the kids') toys into a basket, dirty laundry into a low hamper, etc. Of course silly things are fun too: shake a paw, rollover, put a few containers upside down and put a piece of kibble underneath one (so she has to use her nose to find the right one), have the kids hide somewhere in the house and have her find them (you can teach her their names too, i.e. "go find X!"). Teach her the names of her toys and get her to bring them to you by name. Really, there is no end to the fun things you can teach!

With carting, dog backpacks, and long leashed walks you want to be careful that her joints have matured, especially with a large-ish breed. I think it's typically around 2 years old that the growth plates close. Until then I would stick to soft surfaces like grass or free off-leash play (when she can stop when ready, most dogs will follow you on-leash even if it hurts them).
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Almost 70 views and only 3 replies, I wonder what the other guys were thinking.
Since you asked, I'd recommend intense training right away. They are incredibly headstrong, independent dogs, even when well socialized. My stepmother had to put hers down recently (with the veterinarian's recommendation) because he was becoming agressive and territorial at age 4. He was not a safe dog, especially around kids. Kids he knew, he was just "ok" with but he was very dominant around kids he didn't know. I'm sure maybe this was an unusual case but a dog that size around kids can be scary.
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Since you asked, I'd recommend intense training right away. They are incredibly headstrong, independent dogs, even when well socialized. My stepmother had to put hers down recently (with the veterinarian's recommendation) because he was becoming agressive and territorial at age 4. He was not a safe dog, especially around kids. Kids he knew, he was just "ok" with but he was very dominant around kids he didn't know. I'm sure maybe this was an unusual case but a dog that size around kids can be scary.
From what I researched, a lot of Akitas are prone to hypothyroidism which makes them aggressive at times. Medication can "fix" that if it's not a training issue. At least level out their blood levels and then work on the training...
post #14 of 14

i love dogs but..

i was bit by an akita, that i knew well, when i was a child. i guess because of that experience im very wary of them. the fact that she knew me was the worst part. she was the neighbours dog and i was going over to visit and she was asleep in the yard and i guess i spooked her and she jumped up and grabbed me by the arm. hard. her teeth broke the skin on both sides, one tooth puncturing the muscle. it was really horrible. after she bit me she lay down and covered her head with her paws, like she JNEW what she did was really wrong.. it was horrible for the owners and i remember they talked about putting her down, but a few days later she was hit and killed by a car.

we have a large dog and small kids and i would never worry about him, but i think i might if he was on that breed..
that said, its situational, so i really dont know a lot about akitas in general. good luck!
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