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post #21 of 102
6/12/09 at 12:22pm
I only found out about the RF issue a few months ago.

I had no idea that turning them around at 1 year wasn't the best thing to do. I couldn't believe I'd never head anything about it. I have no idea how I missed it. I assumed that the weight and heights on the box were the safe way to go.


Dd is 3.5 and in a booster seat. We had bought the booster before I knew how much safer the 5 point harness is and now we are in the process of saving up for a new car seat for her.

I really wish I would have known this sooner.
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post #22 of 102
6/12/09 at 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by Funny Face View Post
I only found out about the RF issue a few months ago.

I had no idea that turning them around at 1 year wasn't the best thing to do. I couldn't believe I'd never head anything about it. I have no idea how I missed it. I assumed that the weight and heights on the box were the safe way to go.


Dd is 3.5 and in a booster seat. We had bought the booster before I knew how much safer the 5 point harness is and now we are in the process of saving up for a new car seat for her.

I really wish I would have known this sooner.
s:
We do the best we can with what we know, and once we know better, we do better. Hopefully you can save for a Nautilus for your DD and she'll be harnessed for a good, long time
post #23 of 102
6/12/09 at 1:10pm
Does anyone have the reference for the BMJ article ABC referenced? I'm looking for it, but I haven't found it yet. Thanks!
post #24 of 102
6/12/09 at 1:18pm
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Does anyone have the reference for the BMJ article ABC referenced? I'm looking for it, but I haven't found it yet. Thanks!
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/...urcetype=HWCIT
post #25 of 102
6/12/09 at 1:24pm
Thanks for posting this. I put links to the story and car-seat.org on my Facebook profile.
post #26 of 102
6/12/09 at 1:43pm
This is from the article for those concerned about legs (bolding mine):

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Concerns that parents may have about using rear facing seats at an older age include motion sickness and the comfort and safety of the child’s legs. However, the leg is among the most frequently injured body regions for children in forward facing seats.
post #27 of 102
6/12/09 at 1:54pm
I just posted this to my facebook, too.

My 2.5 yo is tall and has long legs, yet he looks pretty dang comfy rf-ing and has never complained. Same for my 3rd child before he switched.

How funny about that old century infant seat in the pic/video on the first page, though.
post #28 of 102
6/12/09 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by chickabiddy View Post
Most long-legged rearfacing kids sit criss-cross-applesauce
Yep, but it's also how my daughter sits forward facing...and how she sits on the couch, the floor, whatever...me too actually.
post #29 of 102
6/12/09 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Mommybree View Post
Thanks!
post #30 of 102
6/12/09 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
I can see the legs going over the side if you only had one kid in a center spot... but it looks like you have 5 kids from your sig?? So don't you have a lot of car seats smashed together? What are you driving that they have room for their legs to flop over?

I have 3 car seats in a row, no ones legs are going anywhere. (..)
We ride with me, the baby and little miss (both RF-ing) in the 1st back row, so I sit in the middle, and there's room for her legs on the side, or crossed, whatever she wants. The other 5.5 yo. RF-ing in the front, with space for his legs then obv., and the oldest (10.5 yo.) in his HHB and the 3.5 yo. RF-ing in the 2nd back row, with place for their legs then.
We need to go in a big car when we drive anywhere.

(And before anyone says anything, studys here (several scandinavian countrys, that are advanced in car seat/kids in car safety) are very clear that there is no safety difference between front/back seat, as long as there is no airbags active of course, and the studys are on RF-ing seats as far as I know. )

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Originally Posted by DahliaRW View Post
It would be nice if we actually had seats here that would get most kids rfing to 4...sigh!
Oh, you know, the market here for RF-ing seats that are higher and have higher weight limits literarely exploded when the focus on keeping kids RF-ing longer became bigger. So, if the focus increases, the car seat manufacterers will follow suit!
post #31 of 102
6/12/09 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by pixiekisses View Post
Oh, you know, the market here for RF-ing seats that are higher and have higher weight limits literarely exploded when the focus on keeping kids RF-ing longer became bigger. So, if the focus increases, the car seat manufacterers will follow suit!
Hopefully. But if they don't allow the rfing foot thing here, it'll never happen.
post #32 of 102
6/12/09 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by DahliaRW View Post
Hopefully. But if they don't allow the rfing foot thing here, it'll never happen.
What do you mean "if they don't allow the rfing foot thing here?" Is there some law or recommendation about where feet can go?
post #33 of 102
6/12/09 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by aprildawn View Post
My question isn't about the safety of their legs, but about the logistics of where their legs go. My girls would literally have knees in their faces if they were rear facing. I'm not exaggerating. I guess they could sit with their legs criss-crossed. My oldest just turned 7 and her feet hang about 6 inches from the floor of the car when in a high-back booster. (She's tall enough to ride most roller coasters. She afraid to ride them, but could because she's tall enough.) But according to one of the PPs, if we lived in parts of Europe she'd be rear facing as well. I just need help seeing a picture of where their legs/feet *go* when rear facing...that's all.

ETA: thanks pixiekisses. we cross-posted!
nak

i think crosslegged is the most comfortable. dd already naturally crosses her legs b/c she has sensitive feet and doesn't like them touching the back of the seat.

i have also seen photos where the children put their legs over the sides.

have you tried googling? a lot of safety forum members have photos of their erf children in their siggies. and youtube has a video that shows a variety of erf children too.
post #34 of 102
6/12/09 at 6:01pm
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Originally Posted by riverscout View Post
What do you mean "if they don't allow the rfing foot thing here?" Is there some law or recommendation about where feet can go?
On seats in sweden that rf to 55lbs, there is a foot thing (dunno what it's techincally called) that goes from the back of the seat to the floor. It keeps the seat from overrotating towards the floor in an accident. The NHSTA does not allow those here. So there really is no way to get a high weight rfing seat, imo, if they don't because heavy kids are going to cause the seat to rotate too far down.
post #35 of 102
6/12/09 at 6:09pm
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The NHSTA does not allow those here. So there really is no way to get a high weight rfing seat, imo, if they don't because heavy kids are going to cause the seat to rotate too far down.
Thus the reason that so many more people are importing Swedish seats from www.carseat.se to use here in the USA
post #36 of 102
6/12/09 at 7:09pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DahliaRW View Post
On seats in sweden that rf to 55lbs, there is a foot thing (dunno what it's techincally called) that goes from the back of the seat to the floor. It keeps the seat from overrotating towards the floor in an accident. The NHSTA does not allow those here. So there really is no way to get a high weight rfing seat, imo, if they don't because heavy kids are going to cause the seat to rotate too far down.
Thanks for clarifying! I wonder why they don't allow them. Weird.
post #37 of 102
6/12/09 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by jillmamma View Post
It is the Graco MyRide65

My DD is almost 4 and still RF. She puts her legs over the sides, up the back of the seat, or in a diamond shape. But this is awesome to have something else to show the grandparents that think I am nuts for keeping her RF still.
That's awesome, I know what I'll be buying for the new baby. Well I'll most likey put new baby in the marathon that we have now and move DS2 over to that since he's near the RF weight limit on the marathon.
post #38 of 102
6/12/09 at 7:51pm
wow i want one of those...wonder if dh is going overseas anytime soon....
post #39 of 102
6/12/09 at 8:04pm
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wow i want one of those...wonder if dh is going overseas anytime soon....
Carseat.se ships to the USA all the time
post #40 of 102
6/12/09 at 8:46pm
Please do not let your kids hang their legs over the sides. If you are t-boned in a crash, their legs are gone.
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