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post #21 of 48
I highly recommend Flylady.net for awesome tips on keeping up with the little things you mentioned (art supplies/ papers here and there, loads of dishes, etc). Flylady's methods have really helped me develop a realistic routine that keeps my home organized and helps me feel in control of my life and my living space.

Just a tip for art supplies - we have a cupboard in our kitchen that is designated for art supplies. While I keep most of our supplies (we have a lot) stored in cabinets in the garage, the items we use fairly often are stashed in the cupboard. This way, I can pull them out quickly and stash them away quickly - just a few feet from the dining table. It's always a good idea to store things close to wear they are used if possible.

I always make sure that ALL dishes are done before bed. First thing in the morning, I empty the dishwasher, and I load throughout the day after each meal. I also keep a dish towel next to my sink to wipe little splatters or spills right after they happen.

We have two dogs and wooden floors, so the pet hair and dirt are always present in our home. I sweep every evening after dinner to cut down on this. Unfortunately, by the next day, it's back. During and after storms, when the ground outside is wet, I keep a towel by the back door and wipe the dogs' paws before letting them in. This keeps our floors from getting muddy.

My kiddos know that they have to pick up their toys before bedtime. No ifs, ands, or buts about it - I have stepped on entirely too many Legos in the past (ouch). If toys are left on the floor, they go in a toybox in the garage, and the kiddos have to keep their rooms clean for a couple of days to earn them back. This teaches responsibility. The kids are also responsible for making their own beds. Now, if I could only get my dear partner to pick up after herself.
post #22 of 48
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Whatever time they spent cleaning and making sure that everything was "perfect", I was probably sitting down and reading my child a book, or outside swinging them on the swings, etc. It is really just a matter of priorities, and mine happens to be quality time with my kids.
What a perfect example of putting someone else down to lift yourself up. I know plenty of people with extremely tidy and clean homes, who are devoted parents and shower their children with time and attention.

The way it often works out for such families: is that that's how their habits just are anyway, such that it doesn't really take extra time to tidy up. Things don't get left out, as it's habit to automatically put them away. The parents are able to engage the kids in assisting with routine tidying and cleaning. The parents do some of the cleaning while the children are otherwise engaged, or sleeping.

My dcp's home was spotless, and the children had an abundance of attention. They did fun activity after fun activity, and made huge messes every day. And part of the process, was then cleaning it back up. We were even required to send in a change of clothes every single day, so that they could be incredibly messy in the morning, and still have decent clothes for naptime and whatever the family had planned for after pickup. She even laundered the messy/wet clothes while the kids were sleeping. One woman, 4 toddlers, and her house was as pristine at the end of the day, as it was at the start, and yet there had been huge messes and loads of fun in between.

One of the times my house was most consistently spotless, was when I had one toddler, and my dh was deployed. I had one less person to pick up after, and was no longer exhausted by infanthood, and my toddler still slept plenty and loved to participate in anything I did. We effortlessly kept the house tidy on a daily basis, and then spent all of 1 hour every week, on the deeper cleaning, including mopping, getting smudges off of walls, etc. I had my rag, she had hers.

Both of my SILs have the cleanest houses I've ever seen, and they are both constantly doing crafts and activities with their kids, taking them to activities. Keeping tidy as you go is just second nature for them.

I currently have a toddler whose nature it is to destroy, and I can't quite keep up with her. However, I have found that saying, "Okay everybody, 5 Minute Room Rescue!" twice a day, makes a huge difference. Everyone gets up and grabs anything they see out of place and puts it away, and repeat until the 5 minutes is up. On good days, you run out of stuff to put back before the 5 minutes is even up, and might away grab the rag and dust a shelf to fill the time, or go ahead and scrub the toilet. I really don't think my kids are suffering for the couple of 5 minute tidy sessions.
post #23 of 48
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What a perfect example of putting someone else down to lift yourself up.
Nope, that was not how my post was intended at all. I am sorry if something I said has made you feel defensive, but I don't come here to put others down.
post #24 of 48
Jenelle- your example describes my cousin and in her case, her children have suffered because she was more stressed about the dishes, the laundry etc. She was always late to the kids games and things and her kids resented her for it. She has a poor relationship with people but her house is always spotless.
Let me stress this, in THIS case, the need for a perfect home took over her life and it was rather sad.

We are generally messy these days. Three busy children, one in pre-k, one homeschooling and an almost 2 yr old- plus a Mom who is in the middle of starting a small non public school= little time for chores. Right now, this is my reality. Yesterday the bathroom got cleaned, the kitchen and the floors swept but there are still piles of "stuff" that needs to be put away and it is everywhere. the stuff drives me nutty but I can't imagine how I will get it in order right now.

In a few weeks oldest dd will go to daycamp and the younger ones will have a part time sitter. When this happens, I have big plans for getting life back in order.
post #25 of 48
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Originally Posted by umbrella View Post
Both of my SILs have the cleanest houses I've ever seen, and they are both constantly doing crafts and activities with their kids, taking them to activities. Keeping tidy as you go is just second nature for them.
Cleaning is one of those things for me that either has a priority in my life, or it doesn't. It has changed over time with the ages of my dc's and whatever else we have going on in our lives. When I feel organized in my life, cleaning does work it's way into a daily & weekly routine. When chaos strikes, I let some things go until the calm returns again.

I try, at minimum, to at least have the potential of having a tidy home -- everything has a home. If papers, books, or toys are strewn around, at least I know that they can find their way back "home" again.

If I waited until my home was perfect to have people visit, we wouldn't have any visitors *ever.* Keeping a home "guest ready" is more stressful to me than just allowing for dust bunnies to be present, crumbs here and there, and welcoming my guests with open arms.
post #26 of 48
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Originally Posted by umbrella View Post
What a perfect example of putting someone else down to lift yourself up. I know plenty of people with extremely tidy and clean homes, who are devoted parents and shower their children with time and attention.

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That's how it sounded to me, as well. Just because my house is clean doesn't mean that I don't swing with my kids or read them books or get down on the floor to play. It doesn't mean we avoid crafts and playdoh.
post #27 of 48
Our house is clean underneath all the messes. I'm a constant tidy as I go sort of person, & I despise clutter piles. We do messy projects & Playdoh & stuff, and I have a 3 yr old & 18 mo old that love to drag EVERYthing ALLLlll over the place all day long. But if I have my older kids or DH helping me, we can get the entire house very clean in about an hour. So at least when company comes over, they can be under the delusion that our house is spotless all the time. lol


And just as a sidenote, I do not see Jenelle's comment as being condescending in the slightest. It came across to me as being supportive to mamas that are worried about not having a tidy house. I don't think she was being a big meanie with her simple comment. Those are my :
post #28 of 48
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Originally Posted by umbrella View Post
My dcp's home was spotless, and the children had an abundance of attention. They did fun activity after fun activity, and made huge messes every day. And part of the process, was then cleaning it back up. We were even required to send in a change of clothes every single day, so that they could be incredibly messy in the morning, and still have decent clothes for naptime and whatever the family had planned for after pickup. She even laundered the messy/wet clothes while the kids were sleeping. One woman, 4 toddlers, and her house was as pristine at the end of the day, as it was at the start, and yet there had been huge messes and loads of fun in between.
I know you gave other examples, but I just wanted to mention that a home daycare is a person's JOB. I can't be a slob at work, either.
post #29 of 48
I have met parents with messy house who stress about mess/spend all their time cleaning - and I have met people with spotless houses who stress about mess/spend all their time cleaning.

(and yes it is possible to clean much of the time and still have a messy house - energy levels, too much clutter, unsupportive patrners/family memebers can all play a part).

My point is: it is possible to be anal no matter the state of your house.
post #30 of 48
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Originally Posted by Jenelle View Post
Whatever time they spent cleaning and making sure that everything was "perfect", I was probably sitting down and reading my child a book, or outside swinging them on the swings, etc. It is really just a matter of priorities, and mine happens to be quality time with my kids. And not stressing out about things that really don't matter.
That doesn't seem to just be saying, "Be comfy with the state of your house!" It says TO ME, "I'm not cleaning because I'm with my kids- I'm doing things that matter instead of someone with a cleaner house."
post #31 of 48
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I know you gave other examples, but I just wanted to mention that a home daycare is a person's JOB. I can't be a slob at work, either.
It was just a way of explaining how cleanliness doesn't have to detract for attention and quality time, that it's not one or the other.
post #32 of 48
My whole family loves making messes together and we love cleaning up together too. We spend our entire day together and I'm engaged and present during the day, that's my job. It doesn't mean my house has to be a mess though, we love taking care of our house. No one has chores, we just help each other out.
post #33 of 48
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Originally Posted by Jenelle View Post
Nope, that was not how my post was intended at all. I am sorry if something I said has made you feel defensive, but I don't come here to put others down.
I'm sorry if my knee jerk was harsh. I thought of that after I posted and went to bed.

Fwiw, my place is not in great shape right now I have a three year old and a new puppy, and they are partners in crime. I'm also in my first trimester of pregnancy and bushed. I'm not feeling bad about myself because things are more haphazard and disorganzed, but I do find it frustrating to deal with. Things are not where they go when I try to find them, things aren't where they go and I think we're out and buy duplicated, things are left out and therefore destroyed by puppy teeth. Oh, and then we had a flood in part of our house a couple of weeks ago. Cleaning up after a flood when the room is already a mess? Ugh. I was picking up the most random dripping things that just didn't belong in there on the floor or under the bed anyway.
post #34 of 48
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That doesn't seem to just be saying, "Be comfy with the state of your house!" It says TO ME, "I'm not cleaning because I'm with my kids- I'm doing things that matter instead of someone with a cleaner house."
That says the same thing to me when I read it, but yeah I have to say I agree. . . . I believe kids should be #1 and anyone who has an immaculte house probably is spending a significant amount of time away from enjoying and being with their kids. I think the kids will suffer. . . and for another PP my kids will *die*if I make them clean in 5 minute clean up times, they'd rather be spending it with me doing fun stuff I don't complain, I love being with my kids and cleaning should not be a priority
post #35 of 48
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Originally Posted by naturalmamaof1 View Post
That says the same thing to me when I read it, but yeah I have to say I agree. . . . I believe kids should be #1 and anyone who has an immaculte house probably is spending a significant amount of time away from enjoying and being with their kids. I think the kids will suffer. . . and for another PP my kids will *die*if I make them clean in 5 minute clean up times, they'd rather be spending it with me doing fun stuff I don't complain, I love being with my kids and cleaning should not be a priority
LOL, okay then.

Must be strange to do NOTHING but play with your kids, or stare at them when they sleep. How do you manage to post while playing with them constantly?

I do think that a certain level of cleanliness, and passing on good habits to the kids, Should be a priority, one of the many parenting responsibilities.

My kids are not neat freaks, but they do get a kick out things sometimes, like seeing a child sized mop. Since they asked when I was filling the bucket, I let them make a wet mess of the floor while they "mopped," and then within five minutes, they were tired of it, and went off to their room to play. So then I did a real mopping job, and walked around with towels on my feet to dry it up. They went to play with toys on their own, and children often do decide to just go play and don't require direct interaction every moment. I would have thought it silly to not finish the job because I should have been playing with them instead, should have followed them to their room and asked for a doll to join them. Or maybe if I were a more interesting and attentive mother, they wouldn't have gone to play in their room, and would be stuck by my side?
post #36 of 48
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Originally Posted by umbrella View Post
LOL, okay then.

Must be strange to do NOTHING but play with your kids, or stare at them when they sleep. How do you manage to post while playing with them constantly?

I do think that a certain level of cleanliness, and passing on good habits to the kids, Should be a priority, one of the many parenting responsibilities.
to the first part.
and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/49...g-nothing.html

ITA with the second part. I mentioned before that I wished my mom had taught me to clean up after myself as I go about my day, it is harder to learn as an adult.

I was also thinking, I am certain that some people are FAR more efficient cleaners than others. I have watched friends on occasion do small cleaning tasks while we chat, and- some people are REALLY slow, or so sloppy while they wash dishes, that they make a MESS of the sink, leaving more work to do, etc. So- I know that keeping things clean is harder for some people than others.

When my house is a mess, it is generally because I am on here or facebook too much, or simply being lazy. That is not the case for everyone, but- it is for me.

Also- there are times and seasons, IME. When I have a newborn- I certainly can't keep things as tidy. A colicky infant, or sick older child makes it very hard too. So- take into account what you *honestly* could do if you tried, and work with that
post #37 of 48
well I have 3 boys and 3 dogs (2 min schnauzers and 1 boxer). Everyone is in and out of the house all day long and even though 2 of the dogs don't shed they have velcro hair that picks up the outside and brings it in. My kids also have a tendency to spill lemonade on the floor once a day (why it can't be water they spill I will never understand) so I usually vacuum and mop once a day. I generally do it in the evenings when the kids are getting ready for bed or just in bed so that we start the new day with a clean floor. I try to keep the cabinets picked up because that's what drives me nuts is "crap" all over the counters instead of where it goes. The kids pick up their toys and stuff every night before bed so that there is a tidy house for the next day. We try to keep things picked up as we go during the day but I don't go crazy about it because it's more likely that they will be getting it back out to play with at some point. There are moments when I start chucking stuff to make more room in a closet or cabinet to get things out of the floor or off the cabinet. I can't stand clutter, I like for everything to have a place that is put away and not in sight. I am not obssesively clean but with 3 boys and 3 dogs things can get dirty in a hurry.
post #38 of 48
I think in part it is your children's ages.

My dd is 9 now and how clean the house is varies. Right now the main floor looks good. It looks like people live here but you can sit on chairs, the horizontal surfaces are clear, the floor is clean, the cupboards are full of clean dishes. We have 2 dogs and 3 cats. Dd does crafts at her craft table.

I'm doing better than when dd was 2 or 4 years. It is easier to keep activities separate from where people walk in. We also have a bigger space and designated places to put things away.

Dd helps out around the house sometimes too.
post #39 of 48
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The kids pick up their toys and stuff every night before bed so that there is a tidy house for the next day.
Something that is always on my mind as we do this (and esp. on the nights we don't!) is DH's stories about fire calls where they houses are really messy, even just clothes/books/toys on the floors, and how much harder it is for them(the FD) to do what they need to do, and search for people, etc. I often remind my kids, "If the fireman ever needed to come in, we don't want them tripping trying to get to you, or distracted by toys in the way, etc."

of course, we have like 20 bazillion smoke detectors everywhere, so- the chances of a fire we don't get out for are fairly small
(interesting side note, my firefox spell check feels that bazillion is a word, yet, somehow- neither homeschool, nor firefox: are. Oh- wait- apparently, if you capitalize Firefox, you are ok )

Anywho..............
post #40 of 48
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I do think that a certain level of cleanliness, and passing on good habits to the kids should be a priority, one of the many parenting responsibilities.
i really agree.

i don't give my children chores, but we work as a family and help each other out. if i'm cooking, cleaning, painting, gardening, etc. my kids are with me and participating/helping. working as a family allows my kids to experience 3 things imo... 1) often it's fun, and they are enjoying the task at hand 2) they are learning through doing 3) they are contributing

likewise, even when they make huge messes in their rooms, i contribute and help them clean-up. there are 4 people in my home, and all of us are capable of throwing in a helping hand. it lightens the workload for everyone, plus i really feel it bonds us as a family as well.
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