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Splashing when there is "No Splashing"

post #1 of 26
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We were at the park today, myself, 2 DDs (ages 5 and 2), DD1's two friends and their moms. The wading pool was open for the first time this summer and pretty busy. The three girls were playing in it when a new kid, 5ish, got in, lay down in the middle of the pool and started kicking and splashing water all over the place. The three girls weren't too keen on this and asked him to stop. He didn't, I suggested that they move to a different part of the pool. They got out instead. Soon they got back in, and the kid splashed water at them again. Before this there had been minimal splashing as rule #6 is "No Splashing" and I had spoken to them about it already. The other kids were being mellow too.

As an aside, on first glance I thought that "No Splashing" was a stupid rule, after all it is a wading pool in a park, but I realized that it is more of a Splashing is OK if no one is bothered, but if someone is, then don't do it rule.

Anyway the kid in the middle kept splashing people, and pretty soon the girls were screaming at him to "Stop Splashing". An older man with a baby on his lap was calling out "Bill, Bill, come here please" and such stuff several times, but the kid ignored him. I finally stepped forward and asked the kid to stop splashing. Then he stood up and did the kind of hand splash where you essentially throw water at the person. Directly at me. Like 12 feet. So I took immediate action, walked into the pool to him, and firmly told him to stop it. He just looked at me. When I told him he should go to his person he said "No". I told him if he kept it up he was likely to be kicked out of the pool then I went back to the edge.

A woman immediately came up to me and yelled at me ""Don't yell at my son". I said sorry, but there is a rule No Splashing and it was bothering other people. She basically said 'So what, it's a pool, if they don't want to be splashed they should stay out, and don't yell at my kid'. This went back and forth a few times, soon after she threatened "You don't want to push me..." I walked away.

There were no park employees around the pool or I would have gone to them in the first place. I was kind of into letting the girls handle it, but their screaming wasn't getting anywhere, and when he deliberately splashed me I got pissed. Maybe I shouldn't have gotten in the water and spoken firmly to him but it was getting ridiculous and I thought he was ignoring his grandfather. If it had been my kid splashing, I would have removed her from the pool. The girls decided to play elsewhere but I kept an eye on the pool. The kid splashed several other kids away from playing there, and it eventually became a splashing free for all.

When we got home I told DH the story. He said he might have punched her in the nose. I wouldn't have done that, but I wonder what other people might have done/said. About a dozen kids were playing in the pool before that kid got in, the tone definitely changed after. It wasn't so much the splashing per se that bothered me, it was the blatant disrespect for the rules and other people that did.

Thanks for reading this far.

-- ML
post #2 of 26
Sadly, kids behaving badly and parents behaving badly seems a common thing nowdays. I miss manners.

And yeah, I never would have let my kids act like that. I would have snatched them up and left the park if they behaved like that boy did.
post #3 of 26
Well, it is obvious who teaches (or does not teach) that kid manners. Sheesh.
post #4 of 26
Good for you for saying something. Kids like that bother me. I know that you can't expect not to get wet at a pool but there is a difference between getting wet because a child is practicing swimming and getting wet because a child is deliberately splashing.
post #5 of 26
My ds1 was splashing people at our pool a couple of days ago and I told him to stop, explained why it wasn't fair/nice to splash people and he kept saying, "Well that kid is splashing me". I told him to move away from that kid, as he was right next to him and when he moved away the kid was leaving him alone.

My ds1 wasn't listening and when he splashed his little brother in the face (he was playing, but still) we left the pool. He threw a fit (unusual for him but I think it was food sensitivity related) and so I told him we weren't going to the pool for 5 days. He is counting down the days and talking about how he will make a dif choice next time.

I agree w/a pp who said that people behaving badly and not being concerned about how their behavior affects others is very common nowadays. Complete lack of common courtesy.

One of the most important things I wish to teach my children is to be aware and sensitive to the world around them. I don't think you can be true to oneself if you are completely selfish.

Anywhoo, yeah that was horrible for the kid to behave badly and then be backed up by his parents.

I think you handled it well, and BTW the punch in the nose comment by your dh is soooo something my dh would say (but never do, bark worse than his bite)!
post #6 of 26
I think my answer to her would have been, "As soon as he splashes me or my kids, it's my business and I'll tell him to stop."

Unfortunately, there's only so much you can do when someone else's kid is causing problems. At some point, if it was making us not have fun, we'd probably just leave.
post #7 of 26
Geeze, I would never let my son act like that. We have a no splashing rule at our pool as well, and the parents are all pretty good about making their kids follow it. That's important to us because ds has sensory issues/Aspie and freaks out when water gets in his eyes.

I personally don't think you were in the wrong to tell him to stop, esp since your girls were upset and yelling AND it's a posted pool rule.

Unfortunately some parents are just like that, and there is not much you can do. We've been in other situations like that where we just had to leave - you can't make someone else's kid behave, unfortunately.
post #8 of 26
The no splashing rule is very important. There are reasons for it. I loathe people like said woman, and like your dh, might have wanted to punch her in the nose. I can be a fire cracker like that. LOL
post #9 of 26
After the women said that to you, I'd probably have gone and looked for a park employee to enforce the rules. I can't stand people like that.
post #10 of 26
And I'd probably have said something catty about how glad I was that I didn't have to live in the same house with the children she was raising to have no respect for anyone else!
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by pinksprklybarefoot View Post
Well, it is obvious who teaches (or does not teach) that kid manners. Sheesh.
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post #12 of 26
Unfortunately, that is the kid teachers fight over who has to have for the year.

Just before school starts, I would always check my dd's class list to see if she had "that kid" in her class. It was always a sigh of relief when she didn't get stuck with him or her.
post #13 of 26
You did just fine. That mom needs to teach her child to be considerate to others and also follow the rules, but it seems she can't even do that herself. Sigh. Especially with him splashing water AT YOU like that, oh my gosh.

Brush it off and hopefully the next time you go you won't have to worry about that boy being there.
post #14 of 26
A big : to the responses.

A related question, how do you rationally explain to your child that it isn't appropriate to act like the other child -- even though they got away with it. My DS is three so maybe it's just not within his capacity to understand that yet -- but I don't think he'd 'get it' that the other child was still doing something wrong even though he wasn't removed from the situation. Do you know what I mean?? We come upon situations where older kids are doing inappropriate things all of the time and he just doesn't understand why he can't do it if they are doing it....
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by show&tell View Post
A big : to the responses.

A related question, how do you rationally explain to your child that it isn't appropriate to act like the other child -- even though they got away with it. My DS is three so maybe it's just not within his capacity to understand that yet -- but I don't think he'd 'get it' that the other child was still doing something wrong even though he wasn't removed from the situation. Do you know what I mean?? We come upon situations where older kids are doing inappropriate things all of the time and he just doesn't understand why he can't do it if they are doing it....
I just talk about it afterwards if I think it's important that DS understand our family values for a certain situation. So I'd say something like, "That was really rude of that girl to keep splashing water after you asked her to stop. There was even a park rule about it and yet she kept doing it. That's not a considerate, nice thing to do, is it? Unfortunately, not everyone learns nice manners from their parents. That's why we work hard to try to be nice." For a three year old, I might abbreviate that a bit, depending on his interest and the situation at the time.
post #16 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the support. We have a playdate at that park again today, but the weather is cool so I doubt the pool will be filled. I hope to avoid that family, but if it happens again I will be going straight to the park supervisors.

As far as what to say to your own child, I think rainyday put it well. I think I told the girls earlier that some people don't want to be splashed, and there is a rule about no splashing. Before I went in and talked to the kid, I had told the girls that if all else fails, they could splash him back, but that would probably just be what he wanted and not stop him. They said "But we can't, the rule says No Splashing". They are all homeschooled. They'd been playing lifeguard and I wonder if keeping the rules was extra important to them.

-- ML
post #17 of 26
OP: I'd have probably done exactly what you did (and I tend to avoid disciplining other people's kids). He wasn't behaving, and it was affecting your kids. Depending on my energy level, I'd have moved on to this:

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Originally Posted by rainyday View Post
After the women said that to you, I'd probably have gone and looked for a park employee to enforce the rules. I can't stand people like that.
There is no excuse for behaving that way. I see/hear that "if people don't want to be splashed, they shouldn't be in a pool" attitude a lot. I hate it. There's a posted rule that says not to splash. I don't understand why anybody has to splash to have fun in the first place.
post #18 of 26
What a jerk that mom must be. I would have done the same thing/felt the same way.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by mamazee View Post
I think my answer to her would have been, "As soon as he splashes me or my kids, it's my business and I'll tell him to stop."
I would have said something like this followed by, "But it is obvious from where he is learning his lack of respect."
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by mamazee View Post
I think my answer to her would have been, "As soon as he splashes me or my kids, it's my business and I'll tell him to stop."
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Originally Posted by ShyDaisi View Post
I would have said something like this followed by, "But it is obvious from where he is learning his lack of respect."
A-men.
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