July Dingoes ~ Running into the Sun - Page 2

[kerc]

Originally Posted by Geofizz

This kind of thing is *really* common. Note that every MD/PhD on this thread has dealt with it. It falls under the category of "micro-inequity." Unfortunately, speaking up for yourself in the face of every micro-inequity gets very, very tiring. The best way to deal with it, unfortunately, is to have those in charge well educated and aware. :

Yes. I was just talking to my dh about this last night. My dh who *never* likes to be called Dr. R-C and prefers hey, you. But then again he'd never encountered it before (observationally that is).

Nick, I forget, what's your phd in?


Geez this thread is way over educated. Thank goodness ya'll know some stuff about running and mothering. Phew.

Speaking of mothering.....

I'm seeking input here. My dd Leah (4 in Sept). Is driving.me.insane. INSANE! She's always been a mama's girl, always been a thumb sucker and a snuggler. If she could crawl back into the womb, I think she would, daily. When she wants to snuggle she wants to put her face and maybe even her whole body beneath my shirt and SNUGGLE!

When I was working and she was in daycare she would crawl in my lap when I got home and in the very last stages of the working bit, come to bed around 6 am. That's been done since about mid-may and for the last month the snuggling has ramped up to the point where I don't want anyone (dd and dh especially) to touch me and I can hardly stomach the idea of having her in my lap. I can literally not sit down without her trying to climb on my lap. I've tried embracing it and figuring this too will pass. But frankly a month of embracing it has led to me not wanting to be around her. I had a frank conversation with her a few days ago that my body is my body and I get to pick who touches what parts. But she's still trying to get under my shirt at any point she can. Ideas? BTDT?

[Nickarolaberry]

Originally Posted by kerc

Yes. I was just talking to my dh about this last night. My dh who *never* likes to be called Dr. R-C and prefers hey, you. But then again he'd never encountered it before (observationally that is).

Nick, I forget, what's your phd in?


Geez this thread is way over educated. Thank goodness ya'll know some stuff about running and mothering. Phew.

Speaking of mothering.....

I'm seeking input here. My dd Leah (4 in Sept). Is driving.me.insane. INSANE! She's always been a mama's girl, always been a thumb sucker and a snuggler. If she could crawl back into the womb, I think she would, daily. When she wants to snuggle she wants to put her face and maybe even her whole body beneath my shirt and SNUGGLE!

When I was working and she was in daycare she would crawl in my lap when I got home and in the very last stages of the working bit, come to bed around 6 am. That's been done since about mid-may and for the last month the snuggling has ramped up to the point where I don't want anyone (dd and dh especially) to touch me and I can hardly stomach the idea of having her in my lap. I can literally not sit down without her trying to climb on my lap. I've tried embracing it and figuring this too will pass. But frankly a month of embracing it has led to me not wanting to be around her. I had a frank conversation with her a few days ago that my body is my body and I get to pick who touches what parts. But she's still trying to get under my shirt at any point she can. Ideas? BTDT?

My Ph.D. is in political science. Interestingly, dh also sometimes finds he has to 'enforce' being called "Dr." because he looks young (although at 40, he's been out of residency for 7 years) and young-looking surgeons tend to be dissed a lot. On the other hand, he does also have that surgeon 'personality' (i.e. self-contained, not particularly verbally communicative, and occasionally ... ahem ... somewhat self-confident ).

Lately all my kids (always very physically affectionate) seem to be wanting to crawl back in the womb. On the one hand, I love that their personalities have gotten so much ... lighter, nicer ... since school let out but on the other, GIVE ME SOME PERSONAL SPACE HERE!!

[mamabeth]

hey kerc. my almost 4 yo is like that, not quite to that degree, but when I'm holding him (which he would prefer to be all the time lately) he wants to have a hand on my boobs or down my shirt. sort of uncomfortable in professional situations. not sure what advice to give....er, this too shall pass? : what I repeat to myself all the time...

DrJen and Geo, I get that title stuff ALL. THE. TIME. people ask me what I prefer to be called, which is Pastor Lastname just like the OTHER pastor. Then they go right ahead and call me Beth. And this church is even better than most! I don't usually have to correct people here because someone else does, but I have NEVER asked to be called Beth and even when people say something like, "I'll just call you Beth, okay?" I say, well actually I prefer Pastor Lastname because you might want me to BE your pastor one of these days, right? I say it with a smile and usually it gets the point across. Can't be too direct here in the South. I just reinforce it every chance I get, too, with always introducing myself "Hi I'm Pastor Lastname" and such. And I justify it, Drjen, by saying that I would never call my doctor by her first name unless I was friends with her or she expressly asked me to.

Whew. Can you tell I deal with this on a nearly daily basis???????

On to fun things...I ran 4.4 this morning in celebration of my 34th bday today. AND we got movie news....I get to go to a film festival in September, up near Shantimama! I am NOT getting much work done but oh well, that's what b'days are for, right? doing communion visits later to make up for it though. take care mamas.

[poppywise]

i just found out that our friend's 5 year old girl with cancer (i told you all about her a few weeks back) was just put on life support

[muppet729]

Since you all seem so knowledgeable about such things (this is a running thread though, right? ) when I'm addressing an envelope to my brother and his wife, which name comes first? She has a PhD and he is a Lt Commander in the Navy.... military or education? I'm not sure and I think each time I address it, it comes out differently.

Also, does anyone else have a Forerunner 305? How accurate do you think the calorie count is? Sometimes it says I've burned a lot and I'm just curious if someone else has had something to compare it to.

[kerc]

muppet: It's your brother right? I loose no sleep over it, whatsoever!

mamabeth: every Lutheran pastor I've ever met, except the very very very oldest one who had retired 20 years ago at Wittenberg U, was ok with Pastor Beth. Like my next door neighbor is Pastor Carlson or to the more informal crowd, Pastor Dave. The pastor who married us is Pastor Bob to everyone. I know you're talking about the differences between men and women, but maybe you're ok with Beth as long as you get Pastor in front? Or maybe you would be ok with Pastor B (vs. your full last name?). Why does no one talk about this kind of stuff when we talk about gender inequality? I mean this is the stuff that most people deal with every darn day.

[Mommabelle]

We are a sleepy bunch around here. Dh's grandmother died last night, and we had very late phone calls. Then of course we were up and sad etc..

DrJen..the man is obviously ignorant. I'm very dismissive to that sort.

You know it is awkward right now in society, because we do call each other by our first names most of the time. So, if someone calls me by my first name, then I expect that I should call them by their first name even if I put a title in front of it. When we visit dh family, no one uses a title period for anyone for anything. I have to say it feels bizzare and that there are no boundries. I am a southerner, so I especially feel wierd when kids call other adults by their first name without a ms/mr/dr etc......particularly a teacher, dr, pastor or something.

I'm doing a lower body weights workout today, followed by an easy 30 min run.

[bec]

Originally Posted by kerc

bec: you went to an ABBA concert?

Totally did! It was a ton of fun!

Happy Birthday, Beth!!!

Poppy - I'm so sorry to hear that. What awful news. My thoughts are with that family.

I have a 305!!! I haven't really considered whether the calorie count is accurate, to tell the truth. I kind of use all those calorie counts as a rough guesstimate of what I have burned.

RR: I got Zumba and my 6 in!

I'm taking DD1 to the doctor today for the head bobbing thing. I am kinda worried and freaked out about it, and really hoping it is nothing serious.

[JayGee]

Happy Birthday, Beth!!!!

I'm sorry for the loss of your DH's grandmother, Mommabelle .

And poppy, a big for your friend's DD. It just doesn't seem fair sometimes, does it...

kerc ~ weird, because every Lutheran pastor I've known goes by Pastor Lastname.

muppet ~ I "think" the convention would be Lieutenant Commander and Doctor Lastname, but I'm not sure.... Welcome to the thread! The Lewis & Clark half sounds like fun! Do you live in St. Louis? We used to live just over the border in Illinois.

DS did GREAT in his tri! He swam the full 100m, biked 3 miles and ran/walked the .6 miles to finish 3rd among all the kids doing that distance :! He was so excited and proud. I got a ton of pics too, thanks to my friend who loaned me her digital camera.

I went to spin class this morning, ran a nice easy mile (pain free and loving my new shoes too) afterwards. Tonight I've got open water swimming :!

[muppet729]

JayGee- we actually live in Granite so probably near where you were

[mamabeth]

well, I've been called Pastor Beth before (and still do that at youth events and such when everyone else does) but in my current call, if I did that, it would be Pastor Seniorpastorlastname and Pastor Beth. Not okay with me, KWIM? And Pastor Beth is way better than just Beth, which I have NEVER invited anyone to call me if they are a parishionier. THey just do. grrrrr.....

Poppy, so sorry for your friends.

I had a big seafood lunch with the staff and someone got a cake. I feel bloated. In a sort of happy way. :

[ashcav]

drjen, I hope the email helps, I definitely think saying something is the right thing to do. You deserve the same respect as the other doctors. Glad you get a raise with the changes

: 1jooj

tjsmama, I hope you get that nap in, enjoy your bike ride

Happy Birthday, mamabeth!! :

poppy, I was just thinking about your friends dd this morning, I'm so sorry, that's so sad.

muppet729, I have the 305. I tend to take the calorie count for what it says, I mean it does have your HR, weight, height and age right? I think I remember putting in weight, height and age at least. I could be misremembering.

Mommabelle, sorry about your Dh's grandmother.

Jaygee, sounds like your ds did awesome in his tri. That must have been so much fun for him and for you to watch. Glad the knee is pain free and the new shoes are good .

I have a 5 mile tempo to run after work. I'm hoping it clears up and I don't have to run it in the rain. It's been raining here for like 3 straight weeks.

[Plady]

DrJen - Good luck with the email, hopefully it will be a one time thing after that but I'm with the crowd of : dingos.

Muppet729! We'll keep you honest!

RM - I don't know, have you taken any anti-inflammatory?

MB - : Happy Day!

Poppy - : Oh no! I'm sorry, that's so awful!

JG - to your ds!

Mbelle - for you and your family.

Bec - Good luck with the doc. Alison was doing this weird shrug for a week or so when we were visiting my mom last winter and it had me freaked out but then it stopped just as suddenly as it started so who knows? I hope your turns out to be random child tic too.

Kerc - That's tough. I know I'd feel the same way. Maybe you could give her a set time period in which she can do her best to crawl back in and when that's up you get to have your lap to yourself (or else there are consequences for her not being able to give you space?)?

I think I need a serious massage. This morning I went out on my 5 mile loop and I couldn't run the last 2 miles. Everything hurt. Hips, quads, hams, calves, feet. OMG my feet! OUCH! I have a PT appt in a little while so I'm going to ask her for a recommendation.

And... Alison appears to have started preschool today!!! :::
I'd been hemming and hawing for the last month and yesterday I got a message from the director of this preschool I'd checked out and liked saying that there was one toddler space left for W Th F mornings. I had only been wanting 2 mornings a week but she didn't say it had to be all three so I brought Alison in this morning with all her paperwork and whatnot and left her there. At first she was totally psyched seeing all the toys and books and kids etc. She did burst into tears when I said goodbye and closed the baby gate to leave but I think it was quiet by the time I got to the car (about 15 seconds ). Sigh. I feel so um, free? And a bit guilty. And kind of like it's a whole new chapter beginning again. Now what?

[JayGee]

Originally Posted by muppet729

JayGee- we actually live in Granite so probably near where you were

Very close. We were in O'Fallon. DH was stationed at Scott AFB for 4 years .

[bec]

Originally Posted by Plady

Bec - Good luck with the doc. Alison was doing this weird shrug for a week or so when we were visiting my mom last winter and it had me freaked out but then it stopped just as suddenly as it started so who knows? I hope your turns out to be random child tic too.

Thanks. She has been going through a pretty big growth spurt lately, so maybe that's it. I just...I don't know, I just wish she would follow some sort of typical pattern in some things. I love how amazing and unique she is, but sometimes, I think it would be a lot easier and less stressful if I didn't have to be CONSTANTLY on my toes with these kids!

On titles and respect. I know it isn't exactly the same, but one of the ways that we express acknowledgement of some parental directive is by the kids answering, "Yes, Mommy/Daddy." It helps us know that they know that we were talking to them. Why is it, when the kids are finally taking me seriously, they inevitably answer me with, "Yes, Daddy.":

[Runningmommy]

Plady, thanks! I'm taking ibuprofen and just going to hope it goes away like I do with most things. I am still able to run and function, so I'm trying to ignore it.

DrJen~I'm : along side the dingo sistas.

[Penelope]

Originally Posted by mamabeth

well, I've been called Pastor Beth before (and still do that at youth events and such when everyone else does) but in my current call, if I did that, it would be Pastor Seniorpastorlastname and Pastor Beth. Not okay with me, KWIM? And Pastor Beth is way better than just Beth, which I have NEVER invited anyone to call me if they are a parishionier. THey just do. grrrrr.....

Poppy, so sorry for your friends.

I had a big seafood lunch with the staff and someone got a cake. I feel bloated. In a sort of happy way. :

This is so interesting! I'll ask my pastor whether she minds being called Susan. She's our only pastor, and not long on formality, but I should ask to clarify - I certainly don't want to offend or frustrate her and I do have the greatest respect for her.

I don't call myself Dr. Lastname at work, or have my students address me that way, despite the fact that most folks with a doctorate here insist on that. (Long story, but basically my closest colleague refuses to have people address him as Dr. and I do it out of solidarity.) As a result - I've had people think I'm a. the departmental secretary (no) b. an adjunct (no) or c. an undergraduate... really, super no. Mostly it's the other faculty and the staff who get confused - the students figure out pretty quickly who is who, although often they're surprised to discover I have a doctorate, despite the fact that I do tell them and it is on the syllabus.

Often I get Mrs. Lastname, which cracks me up. Or Miz Lastname. I'd prefer my first name or Professor Lastname.

[cornflake girl]

poppy - I'm so sorry to hear that.

muppet - I don't pay attention to the calorie thingy on my watch, but I have read that it radically overestimates calories burned.

plady - how exciting...and bittersweet I'd guess.

Because those idiots in the legislature can't get their act together and just pass a budget already, DH has to take another 5% pay cut. This in addition to the 10% he already took earlier this year. : I love how they keep referring to "those overpaid state workers". As if.

rr: 12.25 miles a bit too fast, but I needed it. I hope I don't pay for it too much in the 5k on Saturday.

[Realrellim]

Originally Posted by kerc

Geez this thread is way over educated. Thank goodness ya'll know some stuff about running and mothering. Phew.

It's one of the things I love about this group.

No idea about the 4 yo, but mine is still nursing and we just put limits on that last month because she still nurses too often for my taste.

RM--I'd call and get an appointment to have your ear looked at, today if possible.

JayGee--good luck to your DS!

mommajb--yay for 500! Nice!

drjen--glad to hear the pay is equal at least. Don't worry about sounding w!tchy. I've begun to think that's just an excuse men use whenever they don't like to be called on their rudeness.

welcome muppet!

tjsmama--hope the nap is on its way!

mamabeth--happy birthday! Around here most everyone does Pastor Firstname, but the important part--Pastor--is still there. That was at least true when Pastor Julie was still at our church. (I miss her!) But, if it had been Pastor Julie and (male) Pastor Lastname--then we're back to the same problem. : When I was in Illinois everyone was Pastor Lastname, but I think the Denver area is just more casual (as evidenced by church-going apparel).

mommabelle--sorry to hear about DH's grandmother.

I'm still a tiny bit sore but I'd like to get in an easy 2-3 today. I'm going to head over to take DD to my sister's for a couple of hours, so hopefully I'll be able to run this afternoon or after dinner tonight.

[grnmtnmama]

Oh Poppy - I'm so sorry to hear. I've been following her story, though I was a little bit before their family at the big B. We have some friends with a very sick 5 yo daughter currently undergoing gnarly chemo treatments, i feel for them so much.

so i'm back from my trip, reading along as best as i can but not much time for posting. i did run twice while in CA. Returned home at 3am on Sunday morning after a terrible, turblulent flight. Rode my bike for three hours. Rode last night for 1.5 hours. Still feel out of it after being off the bike for a week but looking forward to getting back on track.

I ate well while traveling, lost some more weight. Shocking how well my arms are doing, i must have lost an inch from each arm compared to the last time i wore my red blouse.

Kerc or Geo - was there talk from one of you about camping in VT versus the Cape? I've never camped on the cape, but i think there are some nice options available. the cape is unlike any other 'shore' that i've been to. but, if you do come to VT let me know. We have lovely state parks, not as many amenities as in other parts of the world but that's not always a bad thing.

okay, back to making my way through my work. talk soon.