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post #281 of 416
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
I don't usually shave my pubic area, but when I do, dh likes it because (I'm trying to say this w/o a UAV here ) because it is less irritating to his, um, tongue. There, I said it. It has nothing to do with how it looks, it just makes certain things easier.
my dp is this way as well.

i wonder how shaving pubic hair started. it would be awfully hard for men to prefer 'it' shaved before anyone had actually done it. if no one shaved how would they prefer it if they did? i would think you would have to have experienced both before you could prefer one over the other.

here's a little teen sex TMI i used to shave all the time in high school b/c i was self conscious about my b/f seeing my pubic hair. it was fairly common 'knowledge' among my peers (if my mother had known she would have disagreed but i would have ignored her.. b/c well... she wasn't 17) that guys thought pubic hair was gross.

one day my high school b/c finally asked me not to shave b/c he wanted to know what that was like. as it turns out he preferred unshaved.. go figure.. after all that worrying and razor burn.
post #282 of 416
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
my dp is this way as well.

i wonder how shaving pubic hair started. it would be awfully hard for men to prefer 'it' shaved before anyone had actually done it. if no one shaved how would they prefer it if they did? i would think you would have to have experienced both before you could prefer one over the other.

here's a little teen sex TMI i used to shave all the time in high school b/c i was self conscious about my b/f seeing my pubic hair. it was fairly common 'knowledge' among my peers (if my mother had known she would have disagreed but i would have ignored her.. b/c well... she wasn't 17) that guys thought pubic hair was gross.

one day my high school b/c finally asked me not to shave b/c he wanted to know what that was like. as it turns out he preferred unshaved.. go figure.. after all that worrying and razor burn.
I started shaving mine younger then that because of the clumps that got stuck in there. Trimming is efficient, but it's hard to keep that perfect length that doesn't itch or get clumps stuck in it.

And FTR I can't even remember the last time I had sex so I'm not doing it so it looks good for anyone else.
post #283 of 416
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Originally Posted by sisteeesmama View Post
I was just asking because your answer was sort of short and I didn't get the whole gist of what I tought you were trying to say. And I have to admit I still don't. I don't know what you mean by 'matching hypothesis' either.


And to Mag's answer for you:
I have had guy friend's who would literally NOT date a girl or even sleep with her if she had pubic hair AT ALL. I think the preferrence is stornger or weaker depending. To some guys it repulses them, skeeves them what have you. I do think people make decisions based on rdiculous things and this does happen to be one of them.
And no, I don't think everyone settles or compromises when choosing a mate. I have several girlfriends who are still single because they are looking for MR./Ms. perfect. Is that what you meant, Mag?
I don't know any guys like that, I guess I'm lucky, but I don't think I could be friends with people who treated women that way I get the whole initial attraction thing, but if the guy is saying on the first date "do you shave down there" or if the guy is going to break up with a girl a month or however long later when they love each other enough to sleep with each other then that is just not a good quality in my eyes. So really, I would think they either 1) would date a women with pubic hair, just break up with her once they find out she has some or 2) are asking in advance if they have pubic hair as part of a dating requirement and if so who the heck is dating these guys?
post #284 of 416
maybe i should buy a beard trimmer... i don't think DP would want me to use his. he doesn't like it when i steel his razors either
post #285 of 416
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
i wonder how shaving pubic hair started.
Hygiene. And before anyone gets on my case for implying that to not shave is bad hygiene, that's not what I'm saying. But that there have been and/or are places on this planet where soap and spare water are not that readily accessible and where anything that helps to trap moisture in that area can help to encourage yeasts and such (which is why I shave, incidentally, being predisposed even in the era of grocery aisles full of soap), it definitely *can* be a pretty widespread hygiene issue.
post #286 of 416
if soap and water are not easily accessible how do you shave?? wouldn't it hurt like he!!?

and also.. for pube hating men... do they ask a girl when the meet her or do they shame her until she shaves or break up with her if she doesnt?

man1 - jane this is john, john this is jane
jane- hi, nice to meet you
john - do you shave your pubic hair?
Jane - yes
John- nice to meet you too. would you like to see my a$$hole membership card?
post #287 of 416
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Originally Posted by Liquesce View Post
Hygiene. And before anyone gets on my case for implying that to not shave is bad hygiene, that's not what I'm saying. But that there have been and/or are places on this planet where soap and spare water are not that readily accessible and where anything that helps to trap moisture in that area can help to encourage yeasts and such (which is why I shave, incidentally, being predisposed even in the era of grocery aisles full of soap), it definitely *can* be a pretty widespread hygiene issue.


And as for how someone would know they wanted it shaved well I imagine if he is having difficulty whilst down there the thought would occur to him and perhaps his partner that the hair was in the way. The next logical step would be to get rid of it, right?
post #288 of 416
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
if soap and water are not easily accessible how do you shave?? wouldn't it hurt like he!!?

and also.. for pube hating men... do they ask a girl when the meet her or do they shame her until she shaves or break up with her if she doesnt?

man1 - jane this is john, john this is jane
jane- hi, nice to meet you
john - do you shave your pubic hair?
Jane - yes
John- nice to meet you too. would you like to see my a$$hole membership card?
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I actually only shave with water. I haven't shaved with soap or anything like it in years. But without water it can be done just not so comfortable.
post #289 of 416
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Originally Posted by sisteeesmama View Post
I love the smell of a healthy persons natural scent but I think you have to be eating right and getting lots of water not to smell weird. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but most people I like the smell of do eat very well.

I also do not like unnatural smells like chemically deodorants or body washes and I don't even like the taste of really minty toothpaste, I prefer no flavor or something more mild like calendula. I just really don't like fake-y smells or tastes, although I don't really know anyone else besides my hubs who feels that way about body washes and stuff.
You're not the only one. I also think smoking/alcohol and other toxins contribute to a foul body odor.

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Originally Posted by KristaDJ View Post
I think the thing is that they DON'T want us to appear as children, they want us to appear as young teenagers; young and naive and virginal but with perky breasts, rounds bottoms and not much by way of pubic hair.
In some respects, I think it's true that some men want women who look like teens, partly because a teenage looking person may seem to not have developed a strong sense of self yet, partly because they seem healthy and vibrant and strong. However, when it comes to pubic hair, I don't see how the conclusion is being made that teenagers have less pubic hair than adults. Because I don't have more as an adult than I had as a teenager. (Teenager = 13-19 years old)

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Originally Posted by mommysarah5 View Post
I started shaving mine younger then that because of the clumps that got stuck in there. Trimming is efficient, but it's hard to keep that perfect length that doesn't itch or get clumps stuck in it.
Seriously, I have to ask... what clumps? I'm at a loss and the visuals I keep getting... I just don't know what clumps of what could possibly get stuck in pubic hair. I thought, maybe she means toilet paper fuzzies, but I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. Then I thought, maybe clumps is in reference to heavy menstruation, but my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how those 'clumps 'would move upwards and get caught up in pubic hair. ??? I'm just confused, I guess with the clump reference.

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Originally Posted by magstphil View Post


And as for how someone would know they wanted it shaved well I imagine if he is having difficulty whilst down there the thought would occur to him and perhaps his partner that the hair was in the way. The next logical step would be to get rid of it, right?
I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activities. And again, I can't imagine how it could.
post #290 of 416
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Originally Posted by mommysarah5 View Post
I don't know any guys like that, I guess I'm lucky, but I don't think I could be friends with people who treated women that way I get the whole initial attraction thing, but if the guy is saying on the first date "do you shave down there" or if the guy is going to break up with a girl a month or however long later when they love each other enough to sleep with each other then that is just not a good quality in my eyes. So really, I would think they either 1) would date a women with pubic hair, just break up with her once they find out she has some or 2) are asking in advance if they have pubic hair as part of a dating requirement and if so who the heck is dating these guys?
Well some of em get a lot of action(and there actually are a lot of girls/women who shave down there) and then some of are just wishin they were getting action and that would be the requirement if they were, lol!

I know this because I know a lot of the girls that have cycled through.

And yes, it is sad, it is kinda gross and it does make you wonder.
post #291 of 416
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Originally Posted by magstphil View Post
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I actually only shave with water. I haven't shaved with soap or anything like it in years. But without water it can be done just not so comfortable.
but if you can't get soap and water how do you get razors? i mean i understand the reasons i just don't understand how razors would be more accessible then soap and water.
post #292 of 416
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
if soap and water are not easily accessible how do you shave?? wouldn't it hurt like he!!?

and also.. for pube hating men... do they ask a girl when the meet her or do they shame her until she shaves or break up with her if she doesnt?

man1 - jane this is john, john this is jane
jane- hi, nice to meet you
john - do you shave your pubic hair?
Jane - yes
John- nice to meet you too. would you like to see my a$$hole membership card?
Hey, no argument here, lol! I think it's totally asshole behavior. But as always we must remember that these guys are more than this one little asshole behavior......if they weren't I wouldn't have liked them.
post #293 of 416
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Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~ View Post
Seriously, I have to ask... what clumps? I'm at a loss and the visuals I keep getting... I just don't know what clumps of what could possibly get stuck in pubic hair. I thought, maybe she means toilet paper fuzzies, but I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. Then I thought, maybe clumps is in reference to heavy menstruation, but again, my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how it would move upwards. So, again, what clumps?

I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activites. And again, I can't imagine how it could.
All I have to say is that apparently some people's hair is longer than yours...when mine is untrimmed it is DEFINITELY something that would catch menstruation. And as a user of large amounts of toilet paper (I KNOW that I unroll and use too much), bits of paper can get in there.

And yes, it HAS gotten in the way "at other times". You may not be able to imagine, but it DOES happen!
post #294 of 416
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Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~ View Post
me, too.



In some respects, I think it's true that some men want women who look like teens, partly because they may seem to not have developed a strong sense of self yet, partly because they seem healthy and vibrant and strong still. However, when it comes to pubic hair, I don't see how the conclusion is being made that teenagers have less pubic hair than adults. Because I don't have more as an adult than I had as a teenager. (Teenager = 13-19 years old)



Seriously, I have to ask... what clumps? I'm at a loss and the visuals I keep getting... I just don't know what clumps of what could possibly get stuck in pubic hair. I thought, maybe she means toilet paper fuzzies, but I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. Then I thought, maybe clumps is in reference to heavy menstruation, but again, my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how it would move upwards. So, again, what clumps?



I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activites. And again, I can't imagine how it could.
Do you suppose it is possible that there are people out there with vastly more pubic hair than you?
post #295 of 416
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Originally Posted by sisteeesmama View Post
I do not shave because I feel like it is a disgusting habit invented by men to make grown women look more like little girls.

That she doesn't have to conform to society's gender roles like 'smooth big breasted sexy kitten girl' and what not.
Are you sure you're not trying to shame those who shave? Your words are very judgmental and biased. Maybe those who shave don't share in your ideas of what it means to them to shave...it's not always a sexual thing (but it certainly sounds like it is for you with your candid description of why others enjoy your pubic hair ). Plenty of women shave because they enjoy how it looks for THEMSELVES or possibly how it feels (not necessarily sexually). I'm not trying to debate the merits of shaving...just pointing out that you sound like you're doing the very thing you said you don't want to do (shame people).

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Originally Posted by sisteeesmama
I want to instill in her the idea that she is already created perfectly by God in his image.
How can God be male and yet create a woman out of HIS image? I'm just trying to figure out your logic here...
post #296 of 416
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Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~ View Post
me, too.





Seriously, I have to ask... what clumps? I'm at a loss and the visuals I keep getting... I just don't know what clumps of what could possibly get stuck in pubic hair. I thought, maybe she means toilet paper fuzzies, but I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. Then I thought, maybe clumps is in reference to heavy menstruation, but again, my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how it would move upwards. So, again, what clumps?



I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activites. And again, I can't imagine how it could.

Honestly? I'm thinking I must have way more/longer pubic hair than you do. Unless it's trimmed or shaved, there would be no way for me to pee without getting urine on my hair. And my hair really clumps up during my period or after birth bleeding - not even clumps of tissue, just the blood drying on it like glue. And, uh, I can't imagine my hair not getting in the way of oral activities.
post #297 of 416
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Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~ View Post


However, when it comes to pubic hair, I don't see how the conclusion is being made that teenagers have less pubic hair than adults. Because I don't have more as an adult than I had as a teenager. (Teenager = 13-19 years old)



I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how it would move upwards.



I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activites. And again, I can't imagine how it could.
Your statements here answer your first question for me. If your pubic hair is no where near you vaginal opening and can't get in the way of oral activities then consider yourself lucky and "teenlike". For many of us our pubes increased into adulthood and aren't neatly contained to the area "upwards".
post #298 of 416
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
but if you can't get soap and water how do you get razors? i mean i understand the reasons i just don't understand how razors would be more accessible then soap and water.
Sharp rocks, I would think.
post #299 of 416
I don't know how accurate this is, but it's an interesting read
http://www.quikshave.com/timeline.htm
post #300 of 416
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Originally Posted by 1littlebit View Post
but if you can't get soap and water how do you get razors? i mean i understand the reasons i just don't understand how razors would be more accessible then soap and water.
But you don't have to have a Gillet to shave, ykwim? It has been done even in ancient Egypt so I am sure there are several things you can sharpen and use.

The rest is pretty TMI, folks!
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Originally Posted by ~Purity♥Lake~ View Post
Seriously, I have to ask... what clumps? I'm at a loss and the visuals I keep getting... I just don't know what clumps of what could possibly get stuck in pubic hair. I thought, maybe she means toilet paper fuzzies, but I don't wipe my pubic hair because I don't get urine up there when I go pee. Then I thought, maybe clumps is in reference to heavy menstruation, but my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how those 'clumps 'would move upwards and get caught up in pubic hair. ??? I'm just confused, I guess with the clump reference.
Discharge. Ok so I am not who you are asking but I understand what she is saying as I have experienced it. When mine goes unkempt ***TMI TMI TMI*** it gets matted up especially when pregnant or on my period. I trim, though, not shave. It still gets matted but not as badly.

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I've never had anyone tell me my pubic hair got in the way or oral activities. And again, I can't imagine how it could.
Then you must not have a lot Seriously for some of us it's a lion's mane. Hence why I trim.

I just reread your post and this stuck out to me...
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but my pubic hair is nowhere near my vaginal opening, so I still can't see how those 'clumps 'would move upwards and get caught up in pubic hair. ???
You are one lucky gal! Again I don't think you have a lot naturally because mine is all up in my business when I don't trim. It even causes me discomfort and the itchies and all that because there is so much it gets into every nook and cranny.
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