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post #321 of 372
I checked to see what crowberries look like since I've never seen them and we have green stuff that looks just like that but I didn't see berries (or they were really immature yet... can't remember). Any idea when they usually are ready to pick?

Any ideas what a little orange berry would be? I believe it was pretty low to the ground (not on a bush in other words).
post #322 of 372
Are crowberries mainly a "filler" berry? I've read that they are tasteless and usually added in with blueberries for pies and jams, etc. I need to find a good Alaska berry book!
post #323 of 372
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I checked to see what crowberries look like since I've never seen them and we have green stuff that looks just like that but I didn't see berries (or they were really immature yet... can't remember). Any idea when they usually are ready to pick?

Any ideas what a little orange berry would be? I believe it was pretty low to the ground (not on a bush in other words).
I found crowberries on Saturday that were ripe and ready. They were with the cranberries for the most part. Also blueberries are ready but when we got to our patch, the bears had already been through.

I know which ones you are talking about.
the orange ones....

They are not in my edible book. I'm not sure what they are exactly but I never see any animals eating them

But if you see these, dont eat them!
http://www.douglloydphotography.com/...eberry~601.jpg
post #324 of 372
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Are crowberries mainly a "filler" berry? I've read that they are tasteless and usually added in with blueberries for pies and jams, etc. I need to find a good Alaska berry book!
I tried them and they taste like Pomegranate. My DD loves them raw. We did not get many berries this weekend so her "taste test" only included a small 6 year old handful.

I found some AWESOME books at the Loussac this week.

"Alaska Wild Plants" is a cute pocket sized book with COLOR photos! And I found 3 more with recipes and stuff. One is Native.
post #325 of 372
Can we talk a minute about swine flu? I wasn't concerned about it at all last year, mainly because of the timing.. I really feel that if swine flu had made it to Alaska a little earlier in the year, we might have been hit pretty hard with it (closed up houses, and all that..) plus with kids in school, germs spread like crazy, but since we didn't start seeing it here until we started having tourists, I knew that school would soon be out, and the probability of easy spread would diminish that way (kid to kid)..

But since we are ttc again... and I teach.. I am a bit more concerned about this Fall.. any thoughts?

I found these articles on swine flu and pregnancy if anyone is interested..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...93703#32193703

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...93703#32191719

With my kids I selective and delay vax, I got the regular flu vaccine last year with no side effects, and I will probably do that again this year (hoping I can get it before I am pregnant, though, but not sure if that is possible?)

Not sure at all about how I feel about the swine flu vaccine.. generally I think it is getting super rushed through..
post #326 of 372
I had read that the previous swine flu vaccine killed a lot of people and injured significantly numbers. I'm pretty paranoid about vaccines to begin with, and then when they were given immunity against law suits to administer the same recipe vaccine that they used last time, I swore against it.

In all honesty, until I can find something that tells me it's safe... we won't even consider it.

From what I gathered, the numbers in Alaska were still pretty small. Has there been a new outbreak?
post #327 of 372
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From what I gathered, the numbers in Alaska were still pretty small. Has there been a new outbreak?
I read that generally in warm weather, flu doesn't survive, so we wouldn't see another upsurge until Fall... but I think it is likely.

Ironically, though adn was reporting the first Alaskan fatality from swine flu, although they said at this point they aren't sure if she contracted it out of state or here..
post #328 of 372
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I read that generally in warm weather, flu doesn't survive, so we wouldn't see another upsurge until Fall... but I think it is likely.

Ironically, though adn was reporting the first Alaskan fatality from swine flu, although they said at this point they aren't sure if she contracted it out of state or here..
I had read that she died out of state and had multiple underlying medical issues.

I think with swine flu, as any other flu, the key to staying healthy is to wash hands a lot and just keep good housekeeping practices when you are surrounded by children.
post #329 of 372
I get info on swine flu for my job. (I do emergency preparedness planning, including pandemic preparedness.) The swine flu is apparently hitting pretty hard in the southern hemisphere, where it is flu season. I think it was public health in New Zealand that reported that this flu seems particularly contagious. The WHO and CDC are estimating very high transmission & infection rates. Normally, 15% infected is considered a severe flu season. Estimates for this year have been made in the 30%-40% range. If you get the flu now (before October) it is pretty much assumed to be swine flu, since normal flu isn't usually around this time of year. Swine flu is expected to hit hard as soon as school starts just due to all of the opportunities for infection. (Hint: Teach your kids to religously wash their hands - the right way, not get it wet way; always use a tissue and cough into their shoulder - not their hands.)

It should be noted that a huge concern about pandemics/epidemics is economic concerns, even if their is a very low fatality rate. These numbers are off the top of my head but here's an example: If say Anchorage gets hit hard during a short period - say a month - and 25% of people here get sick then. You could have 5-10% of the work force home sick. Add another 5% home carrying for sick kids. Also some are going to stay home with healthy kids, because their childcare provider is sick. Workers without sick leave are going to go to work sick, making more people sick who either stay home or go to work making even more sick. Some workers without sick leave will lose their jobs if/when they don't come in. Families with sick members aren't going to go out to eat, out to the movies, etc - reducing the $ spent at small businesses. Workers staying home without pay spend less too. Families without health insurance are going to fill emergency rooms with folks in respiratory distress increasing medical costs. Families paying unexpected doctors & prescription bills spend less money. Schools and police & fire departments are going to have increased personnel costs due to paying overtime to cover for sick employees or paying substitute teachers. It all just snowballs. (When I was working on some issues regarding Chicken Pox & it's vaccine - economics was a big issue. Its recommended that a child stay isolated/ home from school for 10 days. I have sick leave, but just 1 week. One sick kid could really hurt us financially. Let alone effects to the general economy.)

I'll get the regular flu vaccine - so will my DS, DH and my parents before they come up for #2's birth. I'll have to wait to see about the swine flu vax.
post #330 of 372

New to Fairbanks/North Pole

Hi I have been searching Mothering.com for a moms groups or play group or something in Fairbanks or North Pole as we have just moved her and my 2 year old is tired of adult company! I saw your posts and thought someone might know of a good moms group? Not military (I found those online adn dont qualify)! Anyhow any help would be appreciated! I am also 35.5 weeks preggo so we are also looking for a good daycare/babysitter so we can go to childbirth classes (my first was breech and we are having a VBAC unfortunately at the hospital (I had a midwife in Montana)). Anyhow any help would be appreciated! Jamie
post #331 of 372
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I had read that she died out of state and had multiple underlying medical issues.

I think with swine flu, as any other flu, the key to staying healthy is to wash hands a lot and just keep good housekeeping practices when you are surrounded by children.
She did die out of state. I read that also. But I don't think they are sure yet if she contracted the disease here or there.

And I work in a high school.. the "staying healthy" thing for me, is always going to be challenging.

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Swine flu is expected to hit hard as soon as school starts just due to all of the opportunities for infection.
And that is what scares me most... I feel like I will be in a pit of tigers when it comes to this.. location, location, location, right?

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It should be noted that a huge concern about pandemics/epidemics is economic concerns, even if their is a very low fatality rate. These numbers are off the top of my head but here's an example: If say Anchorage gets hit hard during a short period - say a month - and 25% of people here get sick then. You could have 5-10% of the work force home sick. Add another 5% home carrying for sick kids. Also some are going to stay home with healthy kids, because their childcare provider is sick. Workers without sick leave are going to go to work sick, making more people sick who either stay home or go to work making even more sick. Some workers without sick leave will lose their jobs if/when they don't come in. Families with sick members aren't going to go out to eat, out to the movies, etc - reducing the $ spent at small businesses. Workers staying home without pay spend less too. Families without health insurance are going to fill emergency rooms with folks in respiratory distress increasing medical costs. Families paying unexpected doctors & prescription bills spend less money. Schools and police & fire departments are going to have increased personnel costs due to paying overtime to cover for sick employees or paying substitute teachers. It all just snowballs. (When I was working on some issues regarding Chicken Pox & it's vaccine - economics was a big issue. Its recommended that a child stay isolated/ home from school for 10 days. I have sick leave, but just 1 week. One sick kid could really hurt us financially. Let alone effects to the general economy.)

I'll get the regular flu vaccine - so will my DS, DH and my parents before they come up for #2's birth. I'll have to wait to see about the swine flu vax.
that is freaky.. just what we need more economic challenge.
post #332 of 372
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Hi I have been searching Mothering.com for a moms groups or play group or something in Fairbanks or North Pole as we have just moved her and my 2 year old is tired of adult company! I saw your posts and thought someone might know of a good moms group? Not military (I found those online adn dont qualify)! Anyhow any help would be appreciated! I am also 35.5 weeks preggo so we are also looking for a good daycare/babysitter so we can go to childbirth classes (my first was breech and we are having a VBAC unfortunately at the hospital (I had a midwife in Montana)). Anyhow any help would be appreciated! Jamie
We must be due at almost the exact same time! I'm brand new to Fairbanks as well, and we don't qualify for the military groups either. The church we've been going to has a moms group, and they all seem really great. PM me if you want the info and I'll get it for you on Sunday.

I'm sorry you're going to the hospital if you don't want to be. Have you checked out the birth center? The midwives there have been awesome for me so far, and they get rave reviews from everyone I can find that has used them.

Welcome!
post #333 of 372
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We must be due at almost the exact same time! I'm brand new to Fairbanks as well, and we don't qualify for the military groups either. The church we've been going to has a moms group, and they all seem really great. PM me if you want the info and I'll get it for you on Sunday.

I'm sorry you're going to the hospital if you don't want to be. Have you checked out the birth center? The midwives there have been awesome for me so far, and they get rave reviews from everyone I can find that has used them.
Welcome!
Birth Center is a no-go since she is a VBAC.
I was going to VBAC at FMH but he came too fast and was my UBAC baby!

Welcome to Alaska!

Have you tried MOPS? i think they should have some in the fairbanks/NP area.
post #334 of 372
I don't do the flu vax ever (we're delayed/selective otherwise). I just think it's too much of a crapshoot (pardon the expression) in terms of whether it'll be the right strain to be of any use or not...so we don't do it. DH is a school teacher and if he wanted to get it for himself I'd be supportive, but thus far he's never felt the need

Everything I've heard about the swine flu vax is that it's been very rushed and not well tested, and that even in the US they are not letting kids have it yet cuz they're not sure...um, if they're not willing to approve it for kids, why should I feel ok about having it for me? So I intend to stay far away.

One thing I DID hear is that the highest fatality levels of swine flu are pregnant women in their 2nd and 3rd trimesters. I don't know why, I just know it was on the news...they said that pregnant women are about 1% of the population in Australia, but 60% of the swine flu fatalities. In the USA the percents are not that striking, but it was still a somewhat disproportionate number (like 1% pregnant and 6% fatalities or something?) Now I have to wonder if that's the full story--for example maybe the pg women are more at risk for getting sick in the first place because their immune systems are lowered because of the baby...but regardless, the numbers are interesting. The advice they gave on the news was that if you are pregnant, and you feel any symptoms (particularly respitory) that you should get into your doctor immediately.
Anyway, now I've passed on that bit of news, do with it what you will. I probably would talk to my provider if I felt sick like that, but I have to ask--what would they do? Would they want to give me the vax? I wont' take it...and what else are they going to do? I'd probably be better off to stay home with my homemade chicken broth and echinacia and garlic.
post #335 of 372
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In the USA the percents are not that striking, but it was still a somewhat disproportionate number (like 1% pregnant and 6% fatalities or something?) Now I have to wonder if that's the full story--for example maybe the pg women are more at risk for getting sick in the first place because their immune systems are lowered because of the baby...but regardless, the numbers are interesting. The advice they gave on the news was that if you are pregnant, and you feel any symptoms (particularly respitory) that you should get into your doctor immediately.
Anyway, now I've passed on that bit of news, do with it what you will. I probably would talk to my provider if I felt sick like that, but I have to ask--what would they do?
Well, the msn articles I linked earlier, they were saying that as the baby gets bigger, the lung capacity in the mother is diminished (the baby is growing so lungs are getting pushed up I guess).. and so then that affects the mothers ability to breathe easily..

If I got swine flu while pregnant, I would try to get on a ventilator or something I guess.. there has to be a way to improve the ability to breathe with that temporarily, right?
post #336 of 372
I've asked this on another thread, but haven't gotten any response, so I'll ask it here too

Does anybody know of a playgroup in the valley? For homeschool kids, or kids not quite in school yet? My daughter is 5 (6 in October) and will be homeschooling and is DESPERATE for some social interaction. All of her friends attend public school, so they are never available during the school year and the poor girl is begging for play dates.

I've asked at IDEA and they don't have anything formally set up, so I'm trying to find stuff on my own.
post #337 of 372
Sorry, I'm in Anchorage and almost never get out to the valley.

Could you put up some home made signs in the thrift stores?

I met a mom at a thrift store in Wasilla back in January, so I'm thinking that might be place you can reach other moms.
post #338 of 372
Hi AlpenglowMommy!

there are a lot of moms in fairbanks who have 3-0 ish aged babies who are looking for a play group. I keep saying i'm going to start one.... i will i promise I'm waiting until it gets cooler and the summer crazyness goes away! I will keep everyone updated....

Also there is a play group in Ester park on fridays at 12 sometimes lots of people.... sometimes not : Totally an awsome park though!
post #339 of 372
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I've asked this on another thread, but haven't gotten any response, so I'll ask it here too

Does anybody know of a playgroup in the valley? For homeschool kids, or kids not quite in school yet? My daughter is 5 (6 in October) and will be homeschooling and is DESPERATE for some social interaction. All of her friends attend public school, so they are never available during the school year and the poor girl is begging for play dates.

I've asked at IDEA and they don't have anything formally set up, so I'm trying to find stuff on my own.
I'm here in Palmer and will have the same issue! We just moved so we don't really have any friends here yet We've been pretty busy since we moved so haven't really worked on the social stuff, but as the summer winds down and school starts we will be looking for playgroups. I have a 5 yo boy and a 3 yo boy, but they have both played well with girls, especially the 3 yo.
post #340 of 372
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I'm here in Palmer and will have the same issue! We just moved so we don't really have any friends here yet We've been pretty busy since we moved so haven't really worked on the social stuff, but as the summer winds down and school starts we will be looking for playgroups. I have a 5 yo boy and a 3 yo boy, but they have both played well with girls, especially the 3 yo.
My daughter LOVES playing with boys. She's such a tomboy, that she relates really well with them. Keep me in mind if you would like to get together!
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