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post #241 of 304
Well, if it were decriminalized and sold in a way similar to what is done in The Netherlands, the government would not have control over the production. It would be licensed growers who are passionate about their product, and sold to the specific places that are allowed to sell it. Has anyone ever been to The Netherlands and experienced a country where it is decriminalized? It's definitely not what most people would think. There aren't people out stumbling around stoned or anything. It's quite nice, really.
post #242 of 304
Check this out. From the British Journal of Psychiatry...

"The Dutch experience, together with those of a few other countries with more modest policy changes, provides a moderately good empirical case that removal of criminal prohibitions on cannabis possession (decriminalization) will not increase the prevalence of marijuana or any other illicit drug; the argument for decriminalization is thus strong."

Very interesting article on the topic of decriminalization. How anyone could read this and think marijuana use/possession should be a criminal offense?
post #243 of 304
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Originally Posted by Doodlebugsmom View Post
the government would not have control over the production. It would be licensed growers who are passionate about their product, and sold to the specific places that are allowed to sell it. .
That sounds pretty good.
post #244 of 304
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Originally Posted by onelilguysmommy View Post
That sounds pretty good.
Not to mention, in The Netherlands, the MJ is sold in coffee shops. No one under the age of 18 is even allowed to enter these places.
post #245 of 304
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Originally Posted by swd12422 View Post
Not odd, I'm with you, too. Those who don't think it's a big deal don't know anyone for whom it's a VERY big problem, physically and mentally.
Actually, I do know a couple people for whom it is a problem and I *still* don't see it as a big deal, and still don't think it should be illegal. I see MANY people addicted to many things, I don't think they should all be illegal just because some people have problems with them. Some people have very unhealthy eating habits and can go through a few bags of potato chips and a six-pack of soda in a day...should chips and soda be illegal because some people can't control themselves? SO's best friend was VERY addicted to WoW, to the point of not being able to get or hold onto a job...should video games be illegal? It's not the addictions that are the problem, it's the addictive personalities.

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Do you think the umber of MJ users would go up if it were legalized or do you think it would stay about the same?
I think everyone who does smoke now would be more likely to come out and admit it, once the fear was gone. I also think that some adults who did it as kids and college students, but stay away now because of the legality issue, might occasionally start smoking again as well. For the people who don't like it or don't want to try, they won't, regardless of whether it's legal or not.

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Originally Posted by aniT View Post
There is no way these people didn't know it was laced.. unless they were newbies to begin with. .
Yeah, I think most smokers, unless they are totally new to it, would know if they were on a cocaine trip.
post #246 of 304
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Originally Posted by swd12422 View Post
A couple of my close friends ended up having chemical imbalances (one was suicidal at one point), and if she had started doing drugs she likely would have gone off the deep end. She was such a goody-goody that she drew the line at "legal" and for her, it saved her life.
Why do you think she'd have gone off the deep end? I was suicidal from the time I turned 13 (maybe a little earlier) until almost the end of 10th grade (right around my 16th birthday), when my pot smoking shifted from a once in a while thing to daily. My grades sucked, and I hated school...but I also survived. I highly doubt I would have without the pot. You really can't say that avoiding pot saved her life, when you have no idea what she'd have felt like or behaved like on pot.
post #247 of 304
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Originally Posted by AverysMomma View Post
I'm a pretty peaceful lady...but I'm not quite sure what I'd do to a guy who told me he'd been selling me pot that was laced with cocaine...seriously.
No kidding. I had a lot of friends who did coke, and I avoided it like the plague. Finding out someone had been slipping it to me without my knowledge would have set me off in a major way. That said...I honestly can't imagine not realizing there was coke (or something) in my pot. While I've never done coke, I've certainly been around it enough to know the effects are nothing like the effects of pot.
post #248 of 304
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Originally Posted by ananas View Post
Actually, I do know a couple people for whom it is a problem and I *still* don't see it as a big deal, and still don't think it should be illegal. I see MANY people addicted to many things, I don't think they should all be illegal just because some people have problems with them. Some people have very unhealthy eating habits and can go through a few bags of potato chips and a six-pack of soda in a day...should chips and soda be illegal because some people can't control themselves? SO's best friend was VERY addicted to WoW, to the point of not being able to get or hold onto a job...should video games be illegal? It's not the addictions that are the problem, it's the addictive personalities.
I know someone who had a heart attack shortly after highschool from too much fast food. I don't think things should be illegal just because some people have no self control - and for those who have no self control, it being illegal wont stop them.
post #249 of 304
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post
No kidding. I had a lot of friends who did coke, and I avoided it like the plague. Finding out someone had been slipping it to me without my knowledge would have set me off in a major way. That said...I honestly can't imagine not realizing there was coke (or something) in my pot. While I've never done coke, I've certainly been around it enough to know the effects are nothing like the effects of pot.
I have never known anyone to lace pot with anything at all. To basically give away something they could make more money on...nope, they'd never do it.

I've done coke in the past, and I know it is NOTHING like pot. I'd know if any pot I've smoke had coke in it, and I'd be shocked to get it for free!

I wonder what anyone who laces pot with coke (or anything else) is thinking! That just does not make sense to me at all.
post #250 of 304
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Originally Posted by Purple Sage View Post
I have never known anyone to lace pot with anything at all. To basically give away something they could make more money on...nope, they'd never do it.

I've done coke in the past, and I know it is NOTHING like pot. I'd know if any pot I've smoke had coke in it, and I'd be shocked to get it for free!

I wonder what anyone who laces pot with coke (or anything else) is thinking! That just does not make sense to me at all.
I agree. sounds like something from the movies or something but not something that would actually happen. unless the dealer is a moron... and if so they probably wont stay dealing for very long
post #251 of 304
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Originally Posted by Purple Sage View Post
I have never known anyone to lace pot with anything at all. To basically give away something they could make more money on...nope, they'd never do it.
A dealer probably wouldn't, but it does happen. My sister share a joint with a friend and it was laced with angel dust. The friend probably was the one who did it, and just forgot to mention it to my sister.
post #252 of 304
Yeah, your sisters friend 'forgot to mention it'. *Nobody* sells pot laced with crap without informing you beforehand. Why not? Cause' whatever your lacing it with inevitably costs *MORE* than the pot, and thus would raise the price of it hugely. Of course, some people will happily pay more for premium weed - I used to - but that doesn't mean tis getting laced with anything. Just means its good weed so you don't have to smoke as much to get high.

But yeah, no dealer is going to "slip" you weed with coke or heroine or angel dust or anything else mixed in and not tell/charge you for it. It just does *NOT* happen.
post #253 of 304
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Originally Posted by eepster View Post
A dealer probably wouldn't, but it does happen. My sister share a joint with a friend and it was laced with angel dust. The friend probably was the one who did it, and just forgot to mention it to my sister.

See, that's just weird to me. PCP is something that people will pay more money for - so why would someone lace pot with it and then "forget" to tell them? It doesn't make sense to me.

I think I've just been in the "scene" too long... :
post #254 of 304

peter tosh said....

legalize it! medicinal herbs should not be illegal
post #255 of 304
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Originally Posted by Purple Sage View Post
See, that's just weird to me. PCP is something that people will pay more money for - so why would someone lace pot with it and then "forget" to tell them? It doesn't make sense to me.
The possible reasons are:
  • Since the person was using it herself and sharing it with my sister, she wanted the PCP and it simply hadn't occured to her that my sister wasn't going to enjoy it as well.
  • She thought see unsuspecting people on PCP was funny (I've known a person who gave acid to ducks b/c he thought it was funny.)
  • She got confussed and grabbed the wrong bag.
post #256 of 304
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Originally Posted by chirp View Post
limab...i think what shes saying is that they would all turn into meth dealers.

the dealers i know now would not turn to meth or anything else hard. they would ask for more hours at their crappy job that doesn't pay them enough.
You're lucky then, every pot dealer I've ran across has meth & coke as their side line money maker. If they had no revenue from pot you bet they'd crank up the powder sales & step on it with lord knows what to make more $.
post #257 of 304
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Originally Posted by KarlaC View Post
You're lucky then, every pot dealer I've ran across has meth & coke as their side line money maker. If they had no revenue from pot you bet they'd crank up the powder sales & step on it with lord knows what to make more $.
See the point there is that those dealers are all ready involved in selling other drugs.

The people that MJ smokers like DH and I deal with, aren't in it for the money. They are just providing a safe, reliable person for their friends to get pot from.
post #258 of 304
ok, here's my btdt bit:
My weed dealer friends literally obsess over creating the most loved weed (of COURSE no additives! thats insulting!)... meaning hydroponic, love-fed, correctly light-fed, etc plants. I have three close friends who grow the most furry christmas tree looking well garnished buds... truly admirable specimens. And OH the fragrance! absolute divinity embodied. This is NOT the skunk-weed stench of which I think some of you are referring. That is gross, I agree. One of them(friends) doesn't even smoke... just gets off completely on creating the highest thc bearing plant. He's a love, a true botanical genius.

Not sure who some of you are hanging with, but, my lord! Seems like some of your "friends" may not be such cool people to know if they're spiking people out who just want to smoke a bud! Thats SO absolutely uncool!! Just sayin'. I would really take another look at that friendship if it were me. They aren't good people if they're lying to customers to make a sale.
post #259 of 304
It's not only about the mind altering female but, the hardy and industrious male, hemp.

Hemp was once a cash crop for our newly born country, every farmer gew it, it was law. Clothes, sails, paper (the Constitution anyone?!) oil, food, fuel, it is the wonder plant. Less land to grow in, less water to grow with, needs no pesticides, higher yeilds = more crops = more product = more jobs = better economy= Who says you have to smoke it? Hemp is such an awsome plant.

Just read- number527- you are lucky to know such people! It took me a while to find someone like that and I am soooooo glad I did. Unfortunately, because MJ is so criminalized the regular drug dealers (those who supply other drugs as well) are the only ones around to supply MJ. But there are the few and far between honest MJ dealers. If it were decrminialized or legalized we would see a major shift in the economy. As others have stated, you'd be mighty shocked at all the people that partake!! And honestly, I don't think it would be a bad thing to be able to smoke freely in our country, we may get to know our neighbors a little better, right?!
post #260 of 304
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Originally Posted by Jojo F. View Post
It's not only about the mind altering female but, the hardy and industrious male, hemp.

Hemp was once a cash crop for our newly born country, every farmer gew it, it was law. Clothes, sails, paper (the Constitution anyone?!) oil, food, fuel, it is the wonder plant. Less land to grow in, less water to grow with, needs no pesticides, higher yeilds = more crops = more product = more jobs = better economy= Who says you have to smoke it? Hemp is such an awsome plant.
well, hemp industrial ideas died with the exposure of the existing timber industry, b'c timber already existed and could be reaped without wait and without growing expenses... if I remember correctly

Yeah, its all big money in the end. sux!! I wish more people would give a S%%iT
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