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post #81 of 304

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I think it should be treated the same as alcohol. You cant smoke and drive.You gotta be 21 to buy, that kinda stuff.
post #82 of 304
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Originally Posted by MamaLaurie View Post
I think it should be treated the same as alcohol. You cant smoke and drive.You gotta be 21 to buy, that kinda stuff.
19 in most of Canada, 18 in Alberta.
post #83 of 304
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Originally Posted by AverysMomma View Post
I know a few politicians who speak out about it from the heart...and who aren't ashamed to say that they think it's time to start re-evaluating our true goals in keeping it illegal, especially for medicinal purposes
Yeah, and it's to compete with those politicians that the few politicians I've seen speak out against MJ get all "Oh noes t3h evil drug!!!!!111!!bbq111" about it. It's soooo obvious that they're overdoing things because they want their opposition to look bad.

"He wants to legalize the devil's weed! Next he will eat your children!!" is sort of the implied effect.
post #84 of 304
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
19 in most of Canada, 18 in Alberta.
Quite sensible people, Canadians.
post #85 of 304
I hate the "gate way drug" argument.

I love the line in halfbaked when they are like

Maryjane: Marijuana is a gateway drug. It leads to other things.

Thurgood: Yeah, mostly junk food!

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I will admit I smoked a LOT of pot in college. I also did other stuff. LSD, shrooms, opium, salvia, DXM, something called DPT (or was it DTP?), ecstasy, ketamine... Did I try these other things because I smoke pot? Not exactly. I did these other things because I was young and it was available and young people like to try crazy stuff like that. I never branched into harder stuff like heroin or meth or cocaine. (I was offered cocaine once but didn't try it)

Most of these other things in my experience are self limiting. People don't really develop acid habits. Ecstasy, shrooms... they burn you out big time. I don't seek out ANY of them as a "responsible" adult. I have zero desire to ever use them again.

I also drank in college. Some people smoked cigarettes. Both of these are drugs and no one calls them gateway drugs. There's just something about pot that is supposed to make it lead to worse things. But I think it's crap.

All my pot head friends in college, most are now just boring adults enjoying a drink now and then... some still smoke now and then... 2 have rolled a few times since then... but we're just boring people, more or less responsible, more than making ends meet, doing just fine.
post #86 of 304
The only real reason I can think of for not legalizing pot is that it provides television, movies, books, and music with a fairly innocuous substance for the characters to misbehave with and need to hide for plot purposes.

And then we'd miss out on great lines like from Doll House:
Carrots! Medicinal carrots! Personal use medicinal carrots that were here when I moved in! I'm holding it for a friend!
post #87 of 304
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
I hate the "gate way drug" argument.

I love the line in halfbaked when they are like

Maryjane: Marijuana is a gateway drug. It leads to other things.

Thurgood: Yeah, mostly junk food!

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Amen!

Now... Where did I put those cheese doodles.
post #88 of 304
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
All my pot head friends in college, most are now just boring adults enjoying a drink now and then... some still smoke now and then... 2 have rolled a few times since then... but we're just boring people, more or less responsible, more than making ends meet, doing just fine.
sounds like thee story of my life! minus the rolling, i can't take any decongestants without tripping!

i agree mj being illegal is hogwash. as soon as it legal i'm growing it myself.
post #89 of 304
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Originally Posted by Mal85 View Post
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Also, if it's legal, it can be regulated. There would be an age limit, much like cigarettes and alcohol. There would be laws about not smoking and driving. You would know what you were getting was pure (or at least have a package to tell you what's been added to it). There would be no fear of it being laced with anything, etc.
Like how tobacco products are pure tobacco?

Y'know that's another argument against legalization, right there. As soon as it's an industry there's a chance that all the tar and formaldehyde and junk that they put in cigarettes would go into to commercially available pot.

ETA: I'm joking! And getting in a dig at the tobacco industry as well.
post #90 of 304
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Like how tobacco products are pure tobacco?

Y'know that's another argument against legalization, right there. As soon as it's an industry there's a chance that all the tar and formaldehyde and junk that they put in cigarettes would go into to commercially available pot.
Legal tobacco products are more pure then illegal tobacco products.

Some hard core dealers lace their pot with other drugs to hook the customer. Keep them coming back. I'm pretty sure that commericial pot companies won't be allowed to lace their product with crack.
post #91 of 304
I was an acting major in college and worked very closely with the same group of people for four years. During that time, several of the guys became heavy pot smokers and I watched their motivation, energy and general lack of concern for their work decline steadily from Freshman to Senior year. I've known people so addicted that they would without question rather sit home and smoke and do nothing else, night after night, over any other option. I am not a fan of pot. This is MY personal experience with it and I'm not going to debate whether the above actually happened or not.

That said: Sure, legalize it. Even given the above, I don't think MJ is worse than tobacco or alcohol, and both of those are legal; seems hypocritical to allow those to items to be legal and not MJ. At least if MJ was legal we could tax it and give the money to schools, or something. Given the literal non-existant state of the California budget, I think all avenues for income should be explored. This seems like a given to me.
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Originally Posted by AverysMomma View Post
People give too much athourity to the government..."But Marijuana Cigarettes are BAD!" some would cry out..."They have to keep it illegal, for the greater good!" well...to those of you who, despite ongoing and emerging research to the contrary, would believe this, I as ask you this:

Is it for the "greater good" that .....
And in the same lines:
Was it for the "greater good" that slavery remained legal for so long? That women didn't get the vote until the '20s?
post #93 of 304
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
I also drank in college. Some people smoked cigarettes. Both of these are drugs and no one calls them gateway drugs. There's just something about pot that is supposed to make it lead to worse things.
I think the only "gateway" aspect to pot is the fact that it's illegal. If you want to get it, you have to deal with someone and that someone is frequently (not always, by any means) also a source for other illegal drugs. I've definitely seen people become exposed to other drugs through their acquisition of pot...but that doesn't mean they've all done those other drugs, and it certainly doesn't mean that the actual drug is a gateway.
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
Legal tobacco products are more pure then illegal tobacco products.

Some hard core dealers lace their pot with other drugs to hook the customer. Keep them coming back. I'm pretty sure that commercial pot companies won't be allowed to lace their product with crack.
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Originally Posted by Storm Bride View Post
If you want to get it, you have to deal with someone and that someone is frequently (not always, by any means) also a source for other illegal drugs.
it cracks me up when people say this, where the heck are you getting your pot? I know several 'drug dealers' and only one is actually a drug dealer, and I don't associate with him because he's a UAV.

If they do ever have commercial pot it will probably be horrible, like beasters (sorry Canada, all the pot that makes it down here is icky) My 'pot ethics' won't allow me to buy anything that has been bricked. Its probably Mexican, and probably has blood 'on' it.

Buy local.... even your pot.
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Course all the pot that makes it down there is yucky.

You honestly thing we'd send out best stuff south? Everyone knows that we send our crap pot south and keep the best for ourselves.
post #96 of 304
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Originally Posted by MusicianDad View Post
I have never heard of a hard core drug dealer who sells only pot. The only people I know who sell only pot, sell it to friends who they know smoke it. They do that because they are the one who actually grows it. These people wouldn't really be affected if pot were legalized because they have other jobs and don't rely on drugs to make money. The ones that do, already sell meth and 101 other drugs.
You make a VERY good point. QFT.

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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
"He wants to legalize the devil's weed! Next he will eat your children!!" is sort of the implied effect.
post #97 of 304
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Originally Posted by kriket View Post
it cracks me up when people say this, where the heck are you getting your pot? I know several 'drug dealers' and only one is actually a drug dealer, and I don't associate with him because he's a UAV.
What does this mean?? This is the second time I have seen UAV used in a context where "user agreement violation" doesn't make sense.

Is this just some new way to say jackass that I don't know about? Like he violates the agreement of being a member of the human race?
post #98 of 304
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Originally Posted by RunnerDuck View Post
What does this mean?? This is the second time I have seen UAV used in a context where "user agreement violation" doesn't make sense.

Is this just some new way to say jackass that I don't know about? Like he violates the agreement of being a member of the human race?
Saying someone is a UAV means they are wanting to call them something else but can't because it would be a UAV.
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Originally Posted by kriket View Post
it cracks me up when people say this, where the heck are you getting your pot? I know several 'drug dealers' and only one is actually a drug dealer, and I don't associate with him because he's a UAV.
I don't get "my" pot, anywhere....I haven't smoked it regularly in over 20 years, and not at all in...15?

I was referring solely to the "gateway drug" argument. IME, this argument tends to be more about young people than older pot smokers...and young people, by and large, aren't going looking for a local, ethical source. They're buying from whoever has it. The dealer most of my friends used in high school sold pot, acid and amphetamines. Another one I knew later sold pot, acid, amphetamines and cocaine. These are the people the average young user trips over when they're first looking to score, and that, imo, is the only validity the "gateway drug" theory has ever had.
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Originally Posted by sapphire_chan View Post
Yeah, and it's to compete with those politicians that the few politicians I've seen speak out against MJ get all "Oh noes t3h evil drug!!!!!111!!bbq111" about it. It's soooo obvious that they're overdoing things because they want their opposition to look bad.

"He wants to legalize the devil's weed! Next he will eat your children!!" is sort of the implied effect.


Juuuuust about wet my pants on that one, HILARIOUS...
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