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post #21 of 28
I meet a lot of people who don't have a clue. And I meet a lot of people who DO have a clue, but they don't have enough courage to buck the system.

So, yes, I talk a lot. I try to always phrase things in a way that makes it about me and my choices and not about them and theirs. Just a light comment or two to start the ball.

But, dh and I have been SO embarrassed before by starting with just a comment or two, and then, before we know it, we have COMPLETELY dominated the conversation with nothing but "why you shouldn't vax."

I guess I feel strongly about it...
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by emma1325 View Post
When someone tells me their concerns about vaccines, I always mention my own experience briefly (that my daughter experienced a scary neurological reaction lasting for weeks after her 2nd set of shots, prompting us to research and then stop vaccinating) so that other parents are exposed to someone who did make the choice to stop.

I think it sometimes it takes someone putting a "bug in your ear" for you to really think about an issue like vaccinating. Sure, there's not many parents who feel completely forced to vax; they all for the most part know they have a choice. But do they understand that the choice to not vaccinate is a valid one? That is why I speak up, briefly and politely. I think it's important to let others know that there are sane, responsible people out there who choose not to vaccinate (or do selective/delayed vaccines.)

After hearing everyones "bug in the ear" a million times I want the bug crushed personally... I come from the "enough already" side of things.

As I have been pestered about it so much I've personally gotten sick of it. I leave talks about theses types of issues, for when I am asked. I suppose I just kind of put myself in their shoes. I'm tired of hearing it, I don't want to hear it, and I want to be left alone to make my own chice, so I do the same for them. If they ask I'll tell them we are selective vaxers and leave it alone. If they want details I give them the information and don't push MY ideas and beliefs on them.

As we can see here, everyone interprates the information out there differently. I actually get really angry when people try to change my mind, and I don't feel right doing that to them.

I suppose in the end you could say it depends how you look at it.
post #23 of 28
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post #24 of 28
I wish someone had told me sooner that you could make your own schedule or not vaccinate at all. Ds1 was fully vax'd through the first nine months because "that's what you do." He was fine, but after I realized you didn't "have to" I decided to wait and come up with our own schedule, which led to not vax'ing because I'm still not comfortable with it.
post #25 of 28
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Originally Posted by KimberlyD0 View Post
After hearing everyones "bug in the ear" a million times I want the bug crushed personally... I come from the "enough already" side of things.

As I have been pestered about it so much I've personally gotten sick of it. I leave talks about theses types of issues, for when I am asked. I suppose I just kind of put myself in their shoes. I'm tired of hearing it, I don't want to hear it, and I want to be left alone to make my own chice, so I do the same for them.

Not everyone is sick of hearing it...in fact, some have no idea that there are parents who selectively vaccinate or don't vaccinate. I would hope that if you and I were in a conversation about vaccines, and I mentioned my story (like I said, briefly and politely) that you would in turn briefly and politely inform me that you didn't want to hear it. And that would be the end of it.

I speak up for the parents who have no idea, about any of it. And for the ones who know a little, but need the idea reinforced in a friendly non-confrontational manner. And I've gotten many thanks over the years for speaking up. It's such an important issue, and to always be silent for fear that you'll step on someone's toes is not helpful to the cause.

Quick example for you Kim. A few months ago I was getting my hair done. My hairstylist and friend was bragging about her children and showing me pictures. She then went on to say that her youngest, who is two, has not been healthy at all. She has had 3 seizure episodes, which led to an MRI and many other tests (inconclusive) and eventually the prescribing of a VERY strong medicine for epilepsy. Even though, said her neurologist, she does not have epilepsy. They simply didn't know why she keeps having seizures. She also has been very sick all the time with fever, frequent infections, and allergies. My friend expressed concern over her daughter's health and the risks of the epilepsy medicine.

I asked her if the seizures happened soon after having vaccines. She blinked a few times, as though this was the first time she'd ever been asked this, and said, "Well...yes." I told her of my daughter's experiences. She is now checking into the possibility of the vaccines causing the seizures.

I don't know what will come of this story, but this mother now knows that 1) vaccines can cause seizures (she'd never been told this by her pediatrician or pediatric neurologist) and that 2) other parents are concerned enough about vaccine risks to consider not vaccinating. Hopefully my friend will sit down and begin researching vaccine risks, because I greatly suspect her child is reacting to vaccines just by listening to her story. People won't research this issue if they don't know there's an issue to research.
post #26 of 28
In circumstances where someone is griping about their kids vaxes, I don't always speak up. However, I've made a point of using my own story as an example of the choice I've made...and if anyone is interested, as some have been, they will ask questions. Less invasive that way.

Our family doctor's office has a sign I really, really like, placed by a nurse who attended a seminar with Mary Tocco. It says, "Have you researched vaccinations?" Doesn't imply an opinion one way or the other, but it does give the ownership of such a procedure back to the parent: it's YOUR job to do the research on these vaccinations, YOU decide.
post #27 of 28
For me, it depends. I have found it so frustrating to open myself up and then to be made to feel like a crazy person. I have decided that I would only throw out a tidbit, and if they want to know more I will gladly share, but if they disregard it...they don't want to know. And I have found, most people just don't even care, they want the easy, traveled road, and don't care to forge up a path that is hard to climb....
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by KimberlyD0 http://www.mothering.com/discussions...s/viewpost.gif
As I have been pestered about it so much I've personally gotten sick of it. I leave talks about theses types of issues, for when I am asked. I suppose I just kind of put myself in their shoes. I'm tired of hearing it, I don't want to hear it, and I want to be left alone to make my own chice, so I do the same for them.

The point that most of us are trying to make is that few parents realize that they have a choice; these parents can't make a choice they don't know exists.

We've put ourselves "in their shoes" too, as WE were once the parents that did not know there was a choice.

So, if you want them to have the same opportunity you had, tell them they have a choice.
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