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post #21 of 233
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Originally Posted by annettemarie View Post
Which is still WTFifying, but at least they thought it through.
post #22 of 233
Good movie - but I will have to see it again without having read the book so close...there was alot of change (which I do understand)

1. The Burrow buring - totally didn't make sense. Looked good...but I was totally WTF.

2. No mention of Bill and Flure(sp?) when the wedding is a big point in the next book?

3. Lupin and Tonks are a happy, together couple? What about the sad Tonks?

4. No Marvolo memories? Or mention of him at all?

5. WhereTH was the Hogwarts battle!!??!!

I also thought the end was not in line with Harry's character. In the book the reason he dosen't intervene is because he is frozen under the invisiblity cloak. I really don't think he would have just stood there and watched otherwise...he isn't that good at following orders now is he. I also didn't like the other Death Eaters being there...that wasn't in line with the feeling of the end of the book.

And hiding the book, he hid it there and then remembers the key Horcrux for the end of the next book *because* it was where he had hidden the book??

I also didn't like the more private Harry and Ginny....


BUT like I said, I can apprecaite the movie as a movie and the book as a book. I will watch it again and try not to think about the book LOL!
post #23 of 233
Not going til Friday and can't wait! I think I may be ruined though after watching Harry Potter The Musical.
post #24 of 233
the burrow burning was to make the point that they could get to harry very easily (as Hermione explained just after the cut scene back to school)


My problem? The fact that some people brought children younger than my youngest to a midnight movie (my youngest is 4)

One mother I passed on the way out was holding the hand of her bawling little girl that I could only guess was around 3 years old and telling her not to be a baby!
post #25 of 233
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Originally Posted by Graceoc View Post
Good movie - but I will have to see it again without having read the book so close...there was alot of change (which I do understand)

1. The Burrow buring - totally didn't make sense. Looked good...but I was totally WTF.

2. No mention of Bill and Flure(sp?) when the wedding is a big point in the next book?

3. Lupin and Tonks are a happy, together couple? What about the sad Tonks?

4. No Marvolo memories? Or mention of him at all?

5. WhereTH was the Hogwarts battle!!??!!

I also thought the end was not in line with Harry's character. In the book the reason he dosen't intervene is because he is frozen under the invisiblity cloak. I really don't think he would have just stood there and watched otherwise...he isn't that good at following orders now is he. I also didn't like the other Death Eaters being there...that wasn't in line with the feeling of the end of the book.

And hiding the book, he hid it there and then remembers the key Horcrux for the end of the next book *because* it was where he had hidden the book??

I also didn't like the more private Harry and Ginny....


BUT like I said, I can apprecaite the movie as a movie and the book as a book. I will watch it again and try not to think about the book LOL!

Ah! I went at midnight, it was madness. Fun though! I agree with the non-frozen harry. It was way more dramatic in the book that he was only able to move after Dumbledore died. And the no Bill/Fleur thing was annoying, especially since Greyback was not explained at all either.
post #26 of 233
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I still don't think The Burrow made sense. There were lots of ways to show Death Eaters could get Harry (you know, like them showing up at Hogwarts and bumping off Dumbledore).

Non-frozen Harry annoyed me too. I forgot that oart!

And I agree about no explanation of Remus/Tonks, Bill/Fleur, Greyback. I was thinking that if you didn't read the book, a lot of things wouldn't make sense, and if you did, a lot of things would piss you off.
post #27 of 233
I saw it at midnight! It was absolute madness-playing on all 21 screens in the theatre. They also had a 3:30am showing and the place was packed for that too!

I loved the movie but was more disappointed, mainly for the same reasons as other posters have mentioned. They did not do a good job of explaining the Horcruxes at all and they left out the Battle!

The acting was a bit off in this one. I was bored.

I hope they do a much better job on the next 2 movies. The last book is so rich in detail, I will be so sad/mad if they mess it up.


Overall, I think I have to say: Movie FAIL.
post #28 of 233
I cannot express my level of frustration that the relationships between Fleur/Bill and Tonks/Lupin were left out. I agree with the PP who said the wedding is so huge in the 7th book, and it is! Unless they completely move that entire story line to the 7th movie, I can't see how they are going to make it work. (And as an aside, I was annoyed that Tonks only had a bit part. SHE was supposed to discover Harry on the HW Express. But I guess that all goes back to me missing out on her relationship w/Lupin.)

I was also disappointed that there was no skirmish at Hogwarts at the end. Greyback wasn't elaborated on at all. I always thought the scene between Fleur and Mrs. Weasley in the hospital ward after the attack on Bill was so moving, I was sad they didn't include it.
post #29 of 233
Well, I really enjoyed it, BUT I haven't read the book in a very long time! So, even though I knew "stuff" was missing and messed up, since I couldn't remember exactly WHAT had been tampered with, I enjoyed the whole movie experience more than when I go in and have re-read the book to get ready.

Instead, this time I rewatched the movies.

Less stress for me.

I'll re-read the book now.
post #30 of 233
My friend and I are theorizing that the Burrow blaze, plus no buildup of the Fleur/Bill thing= no wedding scene in next film. Which, yes, sounds like blasphemy but with the changes we saw today...who knows?

Amazing cinematography though. And i thought Snape was done in the perfect way, with all his subtle "stuff" in there.
post #31 of 233
I enjoyed it. A Lot! I read the book in 2005, while in heavy grief, so I do not even remember the parts tht were left out (until you all mention them & then I remember!) I thought it was great!!! I did not want it to end. & I must say, I really enjoyed Snape in this movie. Sigh, how long until the next one???
post #32 of 233
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OK, and I have a question. When they were talking about the Potions textbook and Ron accused Harry of taking it to bed with him, did he (Ron) say something like "It's like sleeping with Hermione"? Or did I imagine that?
I'm rereading the book right now (haven't seen the movie yet, but didn't mind spoilers!). In the book (p 238), Harry reads it in bed and it says "that sort of behavior, as Ron rightly said, was indecent in anybody except Hermione, who was simply weird that way."

DH just got home from a night out and is teasing me that there's still tix for the show starting in about 20 min. Hmmmm.... How fast a cab can I get?
post #33 of 233
We saw it at midnight last night, surrounded by 3498722 teenaged girls talking about Twilight. I had to leave DH in line at ten while I dropped our kids off at my sister's house, and when I got back at eleven, he was in a circle of young girls, and looked up and said, "I made friends!"


Annette, that "All hands on deck" quote was my favourite, as well. LOVED that part. My biggest WTF moment was the shoelace part. I was very confused. Also, I felt there was way more chemistry between Harry and Hermione than there was for Harry and Ginny. The kiss was a let-down too, particularly after the book being all blazing and fabulous.

Overall, I really enjoyed it. I was upset about the lack of battling in Hogwarts, and them leaving out where Snape was yelling that he was not a coward. I think Alan Rickman and Helena Bonham-Carter were absolutely bloody brilliant. Michael Gambon seems to have finally understood how to portray Dumbledore, too.
post #34 of 233
I also really liked Cormac. Talk about eye-candy! Blaise was also really beautiful. And I wanted to add that I was really impressed by Tom Felton in this one. He acted beautifully.

I liked the portrayal of how we saw Malfoy working on the vanishing cabinet, with the birds. Normally I am very huffy when they change things, but I really liked that.
post #35 of 233
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My big thing was no funeral. Just that little Wizarding Grateful Dead concert-type thing at the end.
Yeah, I wondered about that too. I was actually wondering if I was confused, and the funeral would be at the beginning of the next movie. I have such a bad mind for remembering the plots of books that I wouldn't know what was left out--I forgot who the Half Blood Prince was, and for a minute I had to think to remember if Dumbledore died in the cave or somewhere else. I think for the most part with the stuff they put in, they really worked it. I mean there was a lot of the teen romance stuff, they acted as if they had all the time in the world to do those scenes, it felt to me. I've never been into Ron & Hermione as a couple, nor Harry & Ginny, so none of that really moved me.

Bellatrix and her omnipresent pyromania annoyed me. I would have liked to see them wearing robes or whatever wizards wear more often, instead of jeans and sweaters. But maybe they wore muggle clothes all the time in the books, I don't know. I loved Snape and the look on his face as he killed Dumbledore--fantastic.
post #36 of 233
I went to a midnight show! I thought it was visually stunning. I really liked it and I've never liked the movies before (though I've always done the midnight movies anyway) but before this one was released I decided to just start taking the movies as movies and books as books and not compare. Two separate entities.

On that note, a story: my father took me to see Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone the very moment it was released (I was a crazed fan even then, in middle school) and I was the biggest geek in the room. I was decked out in first-year wardrobe as described in the book and brought my book with me. I skimmed along in the book during the movie, scrawling in a notebook the plot discrepencies all the while! My dad loves to tell people that story
post #37 of 233
I remember seeing the first movie with my husband and baby daughter, and she cried so he had to take her home. I felt bad, because he had read the book and I hadn't, and I offered to leave instead, but he said it was fine, he'd come back later. So tonight I took my daughter with me, but then we couldn't even sit together, the theater was so crowded.
post #38 of 233
I saw it and LOVED it. Reading the comments, I am *so* glad I didn't re-read the book again recently. I like to be able to enjoy the movie for what it is. They're always going to have to leave stuff out and make changes - those books are so darn long they won't fit in a regular movie. I will say, the movie was 2.5 hours and I didn't feel it at all. I should have been tired (midnight showing, been up since 8am) but I was so engrossed in the story.

I thought the scene with Dumbledore in the cave was positively epic in terms of visuals. A slightly morbid thought occurred to me later: when that actor passes away one day, that scene will show up in all the montages paying tribute to him. It has to. It was just gorgeous. And who didn't want to stand on their chair and cheer when Dumbledore kicks ass again??
post #39 of 233
I was very disappointed!

I think there was entirely too much time spent on the teenage love stories, when that could have been done more succinctly, and yet the clear moments were left out, like when Harry tells Ginny at the end that he can't be in a relationship with her. That was pretty important, I thought. Also, because the horcruxes were not tallied off, I have a feeling they're going to skimp on those in the next movie, not going for all of them or changing them or something. I think it was better in the book where Dumbledore did more to coach/brainstorm with Harry. In the book, their relationship really developed and in the movie they spent more time together but it was still teacher directing pupil.

Overall, I almost wish I hadn't seen it. Or that I could just forget the amazing book. I do agree it was the funniest HP movie yet, but the book hadn't been a comedy, that's for sure, so it felt a little weird laughing so much and I was in dread about the impending battle, waiting, and it didn't happen. NADA. Also, I agree that it just wasn't in Harry's character to allow Dumbledore to be killed.

Oh well! My kid was also disappointed there was no battle in the end. And she didn't think the inferni (sp? those bodies in the lake) were accurate.
post #40 of 233
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Michael Gambon seems to have finally understood how to portray Dumbledore, too.
This.
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