Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince Movie-- Here there be SPOILERS! - Page 3

[nummies]

I loved it. Really, and I haven't said that about a HP movie in quite some time.

I don't think Harry let Snape kill him. Harry (as much as he hated to admit it) trusted Snape because he trusted Dumbledore. When Snape told him to be quiet (by putting his finger up to his lips). I imagine that Harry thought Snape was going to save DD. After Snape was up there, Harry was looking straight at DD. Snape's curse happened so quickly with not much buildup. I actually liked how they did that scene.

I actually liked the wand tribute thing to DD. I thought it was really cool to see and there just wasn't enough time for a funeral. I mean, really, the funeral (even in the book) didn't do anything to move the plot forward.

I do wish the kiss would have been a little bit more than just a peck because of all the buildup.

Sadly, I just don't think that there will be a wedding in the next movie. With the Burrow burning down and the lack of story between Bill and Fleur they are setting up something else.

And I agree that I was waiting for the Battle of Hogwarts. But I also think that it would get really redundant because of the huge battle at the end of the 7th book.

Overall, I really liked it!!!

[EviesMom]

I liked it overall (and yes, I bought a ticket, printed it out, took a taxi to the theater all in the 25 minutes or so between when DH got home and started teasing me for reading this thread without seeing the film and the showtime). I missed most of the previews, and there were lots o' drunk college students, but it was fun!)

From the book: I loved the Slughorn as chair thing, the love potion, and Luna everytime she was onscreen.

Not from the book, didn't mind: I didn't mind the Burrow burning (I think it's to get away without doing the Bill/Fleur/Wedding and to give Harry no safe place to go "home" to next year. I didn't mind the wand lighting for Dumbledore, although teenagers started laughing and saying "are you all going to sing?" as they did it. I loooved the Draco birds and vanishing cabinet.

Not from the book/bugged me: I love Jim Broadbent, but he wasn't smooth enough for Slughorn IMO. Slughorn is supposed to be overpampered and overcautious, but he's also supposed to actually be really really good at potions, at facilitating connections between people, at putting together a good show, at public appearances and getting things from people. In the book, he doesn't steal from herbology, he asks politely for "academic purposes" and then sells the leaves on the black market instead. He doesn't bungle, ask Hagrid if he can take venom from Aragog and disfigure his body. He pretends to study his eyes, surreptitiously takes venom, and comforts Hagrid by speaking beautifully about him. In the movie, he's just a klutz about it I was shocked Hagrid didn't chase him off angrily. In this movie (and others) Bellatrix is basically just a reckless, overgrown brat throwing a temper tantrum. She's an idiot, and not all that frightening because of it IMO. She should be less "tantrumy demented" and more "passionately evil."

[jeanine123]

Originally Posted by nummies

And I agree that I was waiting for the Battle of Hogwarts. But I also think that it would get really redundant because of the huge battle at the end of the 7th book.

Overall, I really liked it!!!

I was thinking about this some more last night. The Battle of Hogwarts at the end of Book 7 is so very different than the one in Book 6 IMO that I don't really see how it could be that redundant. Especially since there will be a movie in between this one and very last movie. At least I'm assuming that they're not going to put any of the final battle in the next movie and will be saving it all for the very last one. Though who knows with how much they've changed things around.

[jeanine123]

Originally Posted by EviesMom

Not from the book, didn't mind: I didn't mind the Burrow burning (I think it's to get away without doing the Bill/Fleur/Wedding and to give Harry no safe place to go "home" to next year.

But then how are they going to show Harry leaving Privet Dr. one last time and everyone being met by the Death Eaters and having to fight their way out? That was pretty powerful to me, to show just how fragile Harry's safety is after he turns 17 (because remember, in the book the protections that are on Privet Dr. still work, even with Dumbledore dead. They don't disappear until Harry turns 17 so for a few weeks or so he does have a safe home to go to) and how easily it could be endangered. I also think that opening scene in the book really did a good job of driving home to Harry just how much his friends will do to protect him, especially with Mad Eye being killed and Fred's ear being blown off. Also, if Fred's ear isn't blown off then what will they do to demonstrate that even though Snape appeared to turn to the Death Eaters he was still trying to protect Harry? The escape and the fall out from that really helped to set up a conundrum for Harry in that his desire to protect his friends and loved ones met head long with their desire to protect him. I think it all comes around to one of the over arcing themes through the entire series in that Harry's ability to love, no matter what, is what separated him from Voldemort.

[joensally]

DS (almost 7) really wants to go, but has only seen HP movies at home. About how far in is the first possible/probable cover your eyes? I'm on the fence about taking him, but DH's and DD's craze about seeing it is like a riptide...

[Autumn Breeze]

This is gonna take a while, lots of multi quoting....

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Anyone back yet? I really liked it, although there were several WTF? moments.

I LOVED it, yes, lots of WTF moments though.

Originally Posted by Graceoc

1. The Burrow buring - totally didn't make sense. Looked good...but I was totally WTF.

2. No mention of Bill and Flure(sp?) when the wedding is a big point in the next book?

3. Lupin and Tonks are a happy, together couple? What about the sad Tonks?

4. No Marvolo memories? Or mention of him at all?

5. WhereTH was the Hogwarts battle!!??!!

I also thought the end was not in line with Harry's character. In the book the reason he dosen't intervene is because he is frozen under the invisiblity cloak. I really don't think he would have just stood there and watched otherwise...he isn't that good at following orders now is he. I also didn't like the other Death Eaters being there...that wasn't in line with the feeling of the end of the book.

And hiding the book, he hid it there and then remembers the key Horcrux for the end of the next book *because* it was where he had hidden the book??

Yeah, to pretty much all of that.

Originally Posted by Intuition

Also, I felt there was way more chemistry between Harry and Hermione than there was for Harry and Ginny. The kiss was a let-down too, particularly after the book being all blazing and fabulous.

Overall, I really enjoyed it. I was upset about the lack of battling in Hogwarts, and them leaving out where Snape was yelling that he was not a coward. I think Alan Rickman and Helena Bonham-Carter were absolutely bloody brilliant. Michael Gambon seems to have finally understood how to portray Dumbledore, too.

Harry+Hermione - meh, I could see that she was completely smitten with Ron, and that Harry was with Ginny. I think perhaps the 'chemistry' was one understanding how the other was feeling.

I hated not having the Battle, I was REALLY looking forward to that scene, considering the majority of it took place near the Astronomy Tower and up in the halls. When Battle 2 mostly takes place in the entrance hall and the great hall, they really could have done both.

I adore Alan Rickman, but I thought Helena wasn't as good as she was in OotP. Still loved her, and she did play Crazy Aunt Bella REALLY well.

Sadly Micheal Gambon "gets" the soft spoken Dumbledore right at the end. Makes me think he finally read the books. I really enjoyed him in this one. (then again, I liked him a little better than the first one because I could hear him and didn't have to turn the tv up just to know what he said)

Originally Posted by Intuition

IAnd I wanted to add that I was really impressed by Tom Felton in this one. He acted beautifully.

I liked the portrayal of how we saw Malfoy working on the vanishing cabinet, with the birds. Normally I am very huffy when they change things, but I really liked that.

I was honesty rather disappointed with Tom's acting this go round, I really had difficulty believing him. I know that Draco was supposed to be 'disconnected' and 'off in his own world' but it seemed that Tom wasn't connected to Draco.

Originally Posted by tinyactsofcharity

but before this one was released I decided to just start taking the movies as movies and books as books and not compare. Two separate entities.

On that note, a story: my father took me to see Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone the very moment it was released (I was a crazed fan even then, in middle school) and I was the biggest geek in the room. I was decked out in first-year wardrobe as described in the book and brought my book with me. I skimmed along in the book during the movie, scrawling in a notebook the plot discrepencies all the while! My dad loves to tell people that story

I tried to do that as well, and was glad I hadn't gotten round to re-reading! and how cute were you! I was all dressed up last night, only one in the theater!

Originally Posted by Jster

t the clear moments were left out, like when Harry tells Ginny at the end that he can't be in a relationship with her. That was pretty important, I thought. Also, because the horcruxes were not tallied off, I have a feeling they're going to skimp on those in the next movie, not going for all of them or changing them or something. I think it was better in the book where Dumbledore did more to coach/brainstorm with Harry. In the book, their relationship really developed and in the movie they spent more time together but it was still teacher directing pupil.

Since there are still 2 more films I think we'll see all the horcruxes, even if they truncate their stories a bit, we'll see the final 5 in the next 2 films. And yeah, it would have been nice to see more of the student/teacher with Harry and Dumbledore.

Originally Posted by nummies

I don't think Harry let Snape kill him. Harry (as much as he hated to admit it) trusted Snape because he trusted Dumbledore. When Snape told him to be quiet (by putting his finger up to his lips). I imagine that Harry thought Snape was going to save DD. After Snape was up there, Harry was looking straight at DD. Snape's curse happened so quickly with not much buildup. I actually liked how they did that scene.

I think they did it this way because when Draco performed Petrificul Totalus on Harry in the train car he was basically just a still shot in the frames, and not as good as Neville in the 1st one. So, having him frozen like that would have visually looked awful IMO. But my husband (a non-reader) liked how they used that part to show that Snape might not really be that awful. If he were TRULY a Death Eater, he would have taken Harry right then and there to the Dark Lord, it was perfect timing. Then again, Snape has always had ample oppertunity to do just that. So, whatever, it was the "shh" bit that sealed it for dh.

Originally Posted by nummies

I actually liked the wand tribute thing to DD. I thought it was really cool to see and there just wasn't enough time for a funeral. I mean, really, the funeral (even in the book) didn't do anything to move the plot forward.

agreed on the wands and funeral, it made the Dark Mark vanish, which was easier to sit through than a funeral. And Fawkes' song and flying off were almost as good as it should have been. It brought more tears to my eyes, so, good enough, right?

Originally Posted by nummies

I do wish the kiss would have been a little bit more than just a peck because of all the buildup.

SERIOUSLY!!!

Originally Posted by nummies

Sadly, I just don't think that there will be a wedding in the next movie. With the Burrow burning down and the lack of story between Bill and Fleur they are setting up something else.

: that's what I thought too, which SUCKS, and I really hate that they burned the Burrow, that was uncalled for!

Originally Posted by nummies

And I agree that I was waiting for the Battle of Hogwarts. But I also think that it would get really redundant because of the huge battle at the end of the 7th book.

but the battles were so spectacularly different that I don't think they would have been redundant! They are in different parts of the castle, and there are a lot more ppl in Battle 2, and well, people die!



I thought it was pretty much fan-bloody-tastic and I'm really glad I went, I had a ton of fun dressing up! And I GET TO GO AGAIN!! Yay!!!

[Autumn Breeze]

Originally Posted by joensally

DS (almost 7) really wants to go, but has only seen HP movies at home. About how far in is the first possible/probable cover your eyes? I'm on the fence about taking him, but DH's and DD's craze about seeing it is like a riptide...

I wouldn't take my 7 yr old. I haven't let my 7 yr old see Order of the Phoenix yet, and he's seen the first 4. He cried hard when Cedric died even after we read the book.

[annettemarie]

Originally Posted by tinybutterfly

Instead, this time I rewatched the movies.

Less stress for me.

I'll re-read the book now.

That's what I'm doing, too!

Originally Posted by sinsaratea

My friend and I are theorizing that the Burrow blaze, plus no buildup of the Fleur/Bill thing= no wedding scene in next film. Which, yes, sounds like blasphemy but with the changes we saw today...who knows?

Originally Posted by nummies

Sadly, I just don't think that there will be a wedding in the next movie. With the Burrow burning down and the lack of story between Bill and Fleur they are setting up something else.

Well, this is purely speculations, but in pictures of the filming, they're in London in formal clothes, which is where they Apparate after the wedding.

Also, from an interview with Heyman at Snitch Sneaker:

SS: Since Deathly Hallows is the first time we see Bill Weasley, how will he be introduced?
Heyman: Well, we know it's his wedding. So, he's introduced at his wedding and we express it's Bill and Fleur's wedding so you know it's Bill Weasley and it's at the Weasley house. So you know pretty much who he is when you see him and Fleur. It's pretty clear in the end.

Originally Posted by EviesMom

I'm rereading the book right now (haven't seen the movie yet, but didn't mind spoilers!). In the book (p 238), Harry reads it in bed and it says "that sort of behavior, as Ron rightly said, was indecent in anybody except Hermione, who was simply weird that way."

Right, but I swear in the movie Ron says "It's like sleeping with Hermione" and she looks at him funny. It could just be wishful thinking from a die-hard Ron/Hermione shipper though.

Originally Posted by Intuition

We saw it at midnight last night, surrounded by 3498722 teenaged girls talking about Twilight. I had to leave DH in line at ten while I dropped our kids off at my sister's house, and when I got back at eleven, he was in a circle of young girls, and looked up and said, "I made friends!"

That's cute!

My biggest WTF moment was the shoelace part. I was very confused.

OMgosh, right? Obviously, Harry's got a thing for mommy-figures.

Also, I felt there was way more chemistry between Harry and Hermione than there was for Harry and Ginny.

Even my exquisitely clueless 10-year-old noticed this. He asked why, at the end, it's always Hermione and Harry.

Michael Gambon seems to have finally understood how to portray Dumbledore, too.

Yes! I thought I would be happy when he died, but surprisingly, I was not.

Originally Posted by Intuition

I also really liked Cormac. Talk about eye-candy!

But the finger licking! Ew.

I liked the portrayal of how we saw Malfoy working on the vanishing cabinet, with the birds.

There was definitely a bird theme to this movie.

Originally Posted by Viola

Bellatrix and her omnipresent pyromania annoyed me.

Originally Posted by tinyactsofcharity

On that note, a story: my father took me to see Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone the very moment it was released (I was a crazed fan even then, in middle school) and I was the biggest geek in the room. I was decked out in first-year wardrobe as described in the book and brought my book with me. I skimmed along in the book during the movie, scrawling in a notebook the plot discrepencies all the while! My dad loves to tell people that story

Now I feel old. When I saw the first movie, I took my six-month-old daughter along and was 28!

[annettemarie]

Also, according to this site, they start shooting the wedding in August. I'll keep digging around!

[annettemarie]

And here are some explanations about the battle scene and funeral being left out:

Explaining his reason for the battle omission to Snitch Seeker, the filmmaker spelled out, "The reason why we left out the Battle at Hogwarts is because we have a battle at Hogwarts in the Seventh film and we are avoiding repetition." He then added on Dumbledore's funeral scene, "Dumbledore's funeral was something that I really loved and is a fantastic part of the book and part of me would have loved it in the film. But we decided that while we loved it that what we came up with was the right ending for the film that we had made."

[annettemarie]

What does Ginny say in the RoR after the kiss?

This says she said "You can keep me in your bed if you want" but that's not right, is it? I thought she said something like "You can keep this locked up in here too if you want" as in "You don't have to tell anyone".

[tinybutterfly]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

That's what I'm doing, too!





Yes! I thought I would be happy when he died, but surprisingly, I was not.

Then I am in good company!

Oh, and I thought I was the only one thinking I'd be relieved when this Dumbledore bit the dust because no more watching Angry Dumbledore...but then he finally GETS IT RIGHT!

What is an RoR?

[annettemarie]

RoR = Room of Requirement

Sorry.

Another thing-- the beginning was weird. Harry is picking up waitresses now?!?!

[kirstenb]

MUST NOT READ THIS THREAD...

Just posting to say I am jealous of everyone who has seen it! I won't be going until next month- I will be going home to visit and am going with my best friend and fellow HP fanatic. Which will be lots of fun, but I am getting antsy waiting!

[annettemarie]

Yeah, definitely don't read this thread-- but we look forward to hearing from you next month!

[Graceoc]

Since there are still 2 more films I think we'll see all the horcruxes, even if they truncate their stories a bit, we'll see the final 5 in the next 2 films. And yeah, it would have been nice to see more of the student/teacher with Harry and Dumbledore.

I just don't know how they will do that since the memories that he and Dumbledore go through are the key....

Like how will he know that he is looking for something from each of the founders? Or that V collected such things?

I don't necessarly think that the Burrow is gone..KWIM? So it could very well be in the next book. They are wizards after all.

Slughorn is supposed to be overpampered and overcautious, but he's also supposed to actually be really really good at potions, at facilitating connections between people, at putting together a good show, at public appearances and getting things from people. In the book, he doesn't steal from herbology, he asks politely for "academic purposes" and then sells the leaves on the black market instead. He doesn't bungle, ask Hagrid if he can take venom from Aragog and disfigure his body. He pretends to study his eyes, surreptitiously takes venom, and comforts Hagrid by speaking beautifully about him. In the movie, he's just a klutz about it I was shocked Hagrid didn't chase him off angrily

I TOTALLY agree with this as well.

I really didn't feel the Ginny love that I thought could have been there more. WHile I thought Lavander was really funny, I would have liked a bit more Ginny/Harry.

I did like seeing what Draco was up to...

[Autumn Breeze]

Originally Posted by Graceoc

I just don't know how they will do that since the memories that he and Dumbledore go through are the key....

Like how will he know that he is looking for something from each of the founders? Or that V collected such things?

Well, I kinda figured that since Dumbledore said that the entire cabinet was filled with memories about Voldemort that perhaps Harry would go memory diving and just go crazy? LOL A girl can dream, right?

[sinsaratea]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

Also, according to this site, they start shooting the wedding in August. I'll keep digging around!

Good to know. Haven't been poking around the news sites for a super long time, so i was just going on how they seemed to be setting it up. But yay!

[MaerynPearl]

Originally Posted by annettemarie

What does Ginny say in the RoR after the kiss?

This says she said "You can keep me in your bed if you want" but that's not right, is it? I thought she said something like "You can keep this locked up in here too if you want" as in "You don't have to tell anyone".

it certainly wasn't "You can keep me in your bed if you want" but I do believe it wasn't "You can have this locked up in here too if you want" but very very close to it. I remember the first thing I thought after hearing that was that she wanted much more than a kiss though.

[DaughterOfKali]

Ds really wants to see it (he's not quite 7 yet). He's watched all the other movies and was completely fine with them (no scared, etc).

Is this one seriously scary (more so than the others)?
Is there anything else that would not be appropriate for a 7 yr old?