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post #1 of 21
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Do any of you get any of the mainstream parenting magazines? A lot of times they come for free, for no explicable reason. . (They can probably afford it, since they seem to consist of about 75% advertising). I get Parenting, and I don't know why I torture myself by reading it.

My biggest beef is that its articles often pose highly controversial statements as facts...yet they assume no accountability for it.

It all started with an issue that featured an article on vaccinations that promised to "put parents' fears to rest." The author's only source was Paul Offit, a patent-holder on the Rotavirus vax, and the message was that they're safe, so please stop questioning them. The odd thing was that for an article that promised to "put fears to rest," it sure relied on a lot of fear-mongering about all of the horrible things that could happen to an unvaccinated child.

Well, I was eager to read the letters to the editor in the following issue. Surely this article would garner some feedback for critics, right? Conveniently, however, the editors decided to permanently nix the letters-to-ed feature right after this article was printed.

Since then, I've read some other absurdities that readers can no longer call them out on:

* "Study after study" shows that sleep sharing is dangerous. Really? Was it by innocent accident that the omitted the research from the University of Notre Dame sleep lab? Do they think that parents can't read between the lines and tell that these "studies" don't control for dangerous confounders like alcohol use and water beds?

* Another issue twice made mockery of natural child birthers. In the following issue, the editor mentioned getting mail from upset readers about it (again, they no longer print actual letters), but stated that they just didn't want to make women "feel bad" about having an epidural. Never mind that we natural birthers continue to be stigmatized with remarks like, "You don't have to be a martyr."

*The most recent issue somebody wrote in about her son's botched circumcision. She wondered if he should be re-circumcised! The pediatric "expert" responded with the cop-out "talk-to-your-doctor" line.

You may disagree with me on some of these issues, but the biggest deal is how they're presented. I think it's pitiful how such publications talk down to their readers, who are assumed to be incapable of weighing contradictory evidence and making their own decisions. It must explain why I read and love Mothering whose articles not only provide citations, but also address you like you're a grown, thinking human being.

I'm curious what all you've read in some of these publications. (???) I can only hope that even the most "mainstream" of parents can think critically about what they are reading.
post #2 of 21
I had one of these magazines given to me by my IL's I think when I was in the hospital. I think I started to read one article about breastfeeding, and it indicated that supplementing would HELP the breastfeeding relationship and I trashed it.

I only read Mothering now. I can't stomach any of the other magazines, because I'm enraged at the way the information is worded, and how blatantly manipulated a lot of it is. They have this amazing means to educate the world, and instead, fearmongering, and deciet often fills the pages. And don't even get me started on the ads in those other magazines.


Mothering for the win
post #3 of 21
I've heard about Parenting, but I've never read it. The only mainstream parenting magazine I've read is Today's Parent, which is Canadian. It's actually fairly balanced. My biggest beef with it was its over-emphasis on school. Honestly, it sometimes seemed like our only job as parents was to prepare our children for school...drove me nuts. It wasn't as wacky as what you describe, though.

The vax stuff drives me particularly nuts. I just got the "information" package on immunizations in my province. It makes me want to gag. It's a total propaganda piece, with virtually no actual information. (Bald statements such as "vaccines are very safe" contain no information...it's an opinion, and there's nothing to back it up.) I'm not a non-vaxing parent, but it makes me mad that hard information is so hard to get.
post #4 of 21
Hm...I'm trying to think how I can say this without getting in trouble.

I think that all parenting magazines have positions they're trying to "sell," and that all parenting magazines occasionally have hot-button issues on which the editors will gloss over, omit, or distort the other side's opinion.
post #5 of 21
I was actually just going to make a post about this. I read a few pages of American Baby this morning. In it, there was a snippet that said something to the effect of, "Can't decide whether or not to circumcise? You should know that circumcision greatly reduces the risk of infections and STDs."

Really?!

Yea, so do hygiene and condoms, but who cares, right?
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by IntrovertExtrovert View Post
Hm...I'm trying to think how I can say this without getting in trouble.

I think that all parenting magazines have positions they're trying to "sell," and that all parenting magazines occasionally have hot-button issues on which the editors will gloss over, omit, or distort the other side's opinion.
Yes. Even, occasionally, a certain liberal magazine... I've noticed in certain other, uh, noted publications, occasionally lack or downplay of legitimate research that might be contrary or unpleasant but should be presented fairly and some, uh, over-emphasis of "research" that does not come from unbiased sources. And not in Parenting.

NO publication (that I know of) is completely unbiased and we often will read (and find most agreeable, comforting, and "like") things that reinforce our already existing perspective.

Really, either don't read it or join some true advocacy.

I smell one of those cute little locks on this thread .
post #7 of 21
I get Parenting, Babytalk and American Baby. My daughter loves to chew them, pat the pictures of babies, etc. I've got lots of beef with these rags-
Issue of parenting, a tally of how many diapers, sleepless nights, and baths during the first year. One of the tallies, was number of bottles mixed, it was in the thousands. It didn't say, number of nursing sessions. My daughter never had a bottle.
There are very few pictures of non-white babies in these magazines. Even fewer of non-white parents.
post #8 of 21
I read some of these, but take it all with a grain of salt. I figure it's fine to read more than one perspective, and then I go and do what feels right to me. I do like Mothering better, I find that I tend to agree with them more, but it's not the only viewpoint out there. Anyway, I need SOMETHING to do during all the time dd spends nursing!
post #9 of 21
Meh, most printed material (books, magazines, websites) have an "angle" they want to sell. I've read Today's Parent but was annoyed for the same reason I'm annoyed at all magazines regardless of genre - all flash no substance. It had cute ideas for birthday parties and hallowe'en but that's all I really get from them.
post #10 of 21
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I was actually just going to make a post about this. I read a few pages of American Baby this morning. In it, there was a snippet that said something to the effect of, "Can't decide whether or not to circumcise? You should know that circumcision greatly reduces the risk of infections and STDs."

Really?!

Yea, so do hygiene and condoms, but who cares, right?
Oh that artcle made my head turn all the way around in a circle I was so mad!

I whole-heartedly agree with OP, I feel like these magazines are written in such a way that marginalizes and trivializes a mother's natural instincts and her ability to sense if something is or is not harmful for her child. It's all short paragraphs and tied up in neat little phrases like "the experts agree" and "research has shown" without naming said experts or research. It's an insult to me, an intuitive parent and (by the way in case I'd forgotten) a decently well-educated woman! Show me the study, I can handle it! I'm a big girl! If the words are too big I know how to use a dictionary.

The thing I always think of when I read ANY statistic, is what my STAT teacher told me. He was an adjuct professor, underpaid and had little loyalty to the educational establishment. He was a retired military statestician and he said
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You can make a statistic say whatever you want it to.
post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
Whoa there! Where has anybody here claimed that there is such a thing as an unbiased magazine??

But it's hardly fair to tout a highly controversial bias as though it's a fact and then provide no citations whatsoever, all the while silencing the voice of dissenters by not allowing them to write in or not publishing their letters. Publications like this don't trust readers to evaluate sources and handle alternative viewpoints. That's paternalism at its finest.
post #12 of 21
OK... So then what DO you read if "all magazines are biased" ? I contend that just as these mags quote stats and oppinions "we" don't like, other magazines might do the same with things we DO like. So... Why not rail against The Compleat Mother? Or... another natural parenting magazine?

And ALL magazines pick which letters they publish. Most will pick a few that are not complimentary (and occasionally when presented with serious complaints will follow it with a rebuttal), but the majority are. Why, I know a magazine that calls these their "Love Letters" section .

Hey don't get me wrong. Those mags get my juices flowing too. But unless you are reading a peer reviewed academic journal, there is going to be spin, choices made by the author, and a boat load of oppinion. It is not just "mainstream parenting magazines" as the title of this thread says. In fact, some of the most biased and insulated mags are the ones that diverge the most from the mainstream as they are so frequently unchallenged because their readers are the most passionately devoted.
post #13 of 21
I learned early on to never read parenting magazines of any sort. I get all my info from here on MDC--at least you get lots of perspectives! I have a dear friend who believes that Parenting is THE parenting Bible handed down from above. I cannot imagine why except that it feeds into her natural addiction of calling her pediatrician every week and freaking out for no reason whatsoever. I have recommended that she check out the MDC boards but it's like talking to a puppet that smiles and nods but I know she isn't listening to my arguments. To be honest, she was genuinely surprised when I told her that most magazines have an agenda to press and they exist to get money from advertizers. And I mean really shocked.
post #14 of 21
Just thinking about this gets me steamed. I have no idea why there is a Parenting mag subscription being sent to me but every single issue just ticks me off! Every page is saturated with pushing some mainstream, junk food diet, consumable, disposable, plastic agenda. I don't want to get my baby out of my bed or put my vaccination fears to rest or know what all the freakin toys I need to get are. I should just throw them straight into the recycling. Every issue states this is my last issue and they keep coming.
post #15 of 21
Complaining about Mothering being biased towards NFL issues is like complaining that Walt Disney World doesn't have any Warner Brother's characters represented.

It says "A Natural Family Living Magazine," on the cover.
post #16 of 21
I agree that all parenting magazines are biased.

I'm biased, too

So I chose a magazine that fits with my personal bias!

I don't think there's anything wrong with that, you can't have a completely unbiased magazine or it would be written by robots (plus, no one would read it because it would make EVERYONE mad at some point.)

There is a place in the world for everyone and I'm just thankful there is a magazine that I can look forward to reading that won't make me angry page after page I would hate to open up a certain bi-monthly publication I've ordered and see a story on "The Convenience of Bottle Feeding vs. the Convenience of Breast" even if it was fair and balanced.

When I watch the news I tend to switch between CNN and Fox News. Both are biased but I like to read all the bias-es and then make my decision.

That being said, because of personal experience and my beliefs about parenting, I could never, EVER subscribe to Paranoia magazine.
post #17 of 21
I too inexplicably began receivin Parenting magazine about 6 months ago, and I'm certain I know the reason why. It's clear by looking through the magazine that they make almost all of their profits not through subscription revenue, but through advertisers. And advertisers want more "consumers" reading the Mag, this is why it's being distributed far and wide in such a way. Not only are there more ads than any other content, but even the articles and editorial section are just platforms to promote marketers wares. the worst is the pharmaceutical industry pushing it's views all over the magazine, from ads to "stop worrying about vaccinations and give them to your kids" articles. They are anti-cosleeping as well. They push gimicky toys and the media consumer culture throughout the magazine. It's a BUY BUY BUY message. It's disgusting, and actually i think i'm going to call them and tell them to stop sending it to me because it now goes in the trash can the minute it arrives.
post #18 of 21
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Yes. Even, occasionally, a certain liberal magazine... I've noticed in certain other, uh, noted publications, occasionally lack or downplay of legitimate research that might be contrary or unpleasant but should be presented fairly and some, uh, over-emphasis of "research" that does not come from unbiased sources. And not in Parenting.

NO publication (that I know of) is completely unbiased and we often will read (and find most agreeable, comforting, and "like") things that reinforce our already existing perspective.

Really, either don't read it or join some true advocacy.

I smell one of those cute little locks on this thread .
Um, sorry, but I don't know any liberal magazines or natural family living magazines that send out millions of unwanted copies in order to push an agenda set by their advertisers. Yes, magazines are biased, and we CHOOSE which ones to buy. But Parenting, and some of the other "mainstream parenting" magazines are in a class by themselves, because they are trying to manipulate unsuspecting parents, and are doing so at the behest of their advertisers. Nothing else explains why they are blanketing the country with their trash "for free"
post #19 of 21
regarding bias.. I think its kind of a good thing. I've found that the best way to get the whole picture of an issue is to look at biased sources.. on BOTH sides! Side A knows what side B's best arguments are, and will attempt to rebut them, and vice versa. Read both sides with an open mind and you'll be way better informed than if you only read "unbiased" sources. I mean seriously, when's the last time you read an "unbiased" article about something like bf vs ff, or circ vs intact, and not been left annoyed by how.. well, incomplete it is!
post #20 of 21
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Whoa there! Where has anybody here claimed that there is such a thing as an unbiased magazine??

But it's hardly fair to tout a highly controversial bias as though it's a fact and then provide no citations whatsoever, all the while silencing the voice of dissenters by not allowing them to write in or not publishing their letters. Publications like this don't trust readers to evaluate sources and handle alternative viewpoints. That's paternalism at its finest.
I didn't get the impression anyone was complaining about bias per se, but where the bias was leaning.

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OK... So then what DO you read if "all magazines are biased" ? I contend that just as these mags quote stats and oppinions "we" don't like, other magazines might do the same with things we DO like. So... Why not rail against The Compleat Mother? Or... another natural parenting magazine?

And ALL magazines pick which letters they publish. Most will pick a few that are not complimentary (and occasionally when presented with serious complaints will follow it with a rebuttal), but the majority are. Why, I know a magazine that calls these their "Love Letters" section .

Hey don't get me wrong. Those mags get my juices flowing too. But unless you are reading a peer reviewed academic journal, there is going to be spin, choices made by the author, and a boat load of oppinion. It is not just "mainstream parenting magazines" as the title of this thread says. In fact, some of the most biased and insulated mags are the ones that diverge the most from the mainstream as they are so frequently unchallenged because their readers are the most passionately devoted.
One of the reasons I like MDC is their magazine IS biased. Biased MY WAY. Why, I think in the UA they even say something like
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we're not here to play the "whatever is convenient to you" game. We think you should parent this way. You can talk about it, but please, don't be advocating all that non-NFL smudge. We will totally open up a can of you-know-what on your you-know-where if you even think about it.
and I appreciate that kind of unrepentant bias towards my side (you know, the right side? or is that the left side? ).

Also, I've read so-called academic journals that were far from unbiased. EVERYONE has a bias. Some sources just hid it better than others.

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regarding bias.. I think its kind of a good thing. I've found that the best way to get the whole picture of an issue is to look at biased sources.. on BOTH sides! Side A knows what side B's best arguments are, and will attempt to rebut them, and vice versa. Read both sides with an open mind and you'll be way better informed than if you only read "unbiased" sources. I mean seriously, when's the last time you read an "unbiased" article about something like bf vs ff, or circ vs intact, and not been left annoyed by how.. well, incomplete it is!
An interesting perspective. I read the free mags so that I have a better idea of what the ladies at the mainstream parenting groups I go to are reading. Then I have a jumping off point if someone says "So I was reading the new American Baby..."
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