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post #41 of 130
I would say that it's normal, but I believe that they should have asked for pemission first. There are times when a parent would not want their child's picture taken (safety things and such). More than likely, the picture is going to be used for scrap book of sorts for your child to bring home after camp is done, so the teacher didn't think anything was wrong with it.
post #42 of 130
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Originally Posted by Jessie123 View Post
Normal or not, they can NOT take pics of your child with out your permission. I am aphotographer by trade, and it is illegal to take a photograph of a person under 18 (for ANY reason) without the written consent of the parent. You have every right to be bothered, so be sure to talk to them.
This must vary from place to place or we'd never see any celebrity's children.
post #43 of 130
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This must vary from place to place or we'd never see any celebrity's children.
Right? I mean, they use those photos to make money ~ selling magazines and websites and by extension, the products advertised within those publications as well.

I, personally, have no knowledge of the legality of any of this, though.
post #44 of 130
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This must vary from place to place or we'd never see any celebrity's children.
I agree. I think you can't use them for advertising, but i think you can publish them.
post #45 of 130
I believe that legally anyone can take a photo of anyone IN PUBLIC and do with it what they want. If you're in public, you're fair game.

But in a private setting, like within the classroom, if they are going to use the picture in any kind of public way, they need consent. However, if it's just for classroom projects or something I don't think they need consent.
post #46 of 130
you can take pictures of anyone, anytime, anywhere, unless you are tresspassing and then the issue is tresspassing not photographing. You just are suppose to make money off of pictures w/o consent, although, as mentioned earlier, that is a gray area if your are famous!

but if you are nude in your house and have your shades open and I am on the street adn see you, I am legally allowed to take your picture fyi!
post #47 of 130
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you can take pictures of anyone, anytime, anywhere, unless you are tresspassing and then the issue is tresspassing not photographing. You just are suppose to make money off of pictures w/o consent, although, as mentioned earlier, that is a gray area if your are famous!

but if you are nude in your house and have your shades open and I am on the street adn see you, I am legally allowed to take your picture fyi!
depends on the people involved and what exactly is going on... stalking is illegal. there are some laws that protect people's rights to privacy and to not have to live in fear. it's not just a free-for-all. there is a REASON most daycares and preschools have consent forms; parents have valid concerns regarding the use of their children's images. I was always respected when I requested no photos to be taken of DD, even for school-only use.
post #48 of 130
Sounds fairly normal. After the school year I got a picture book from the year for each of my elementary aged kids.
post #49 of 130
I thought of another reason why they may take the kids' pictures - to do a "who's who" board on the wall. So staff as well as other kids can learn the names of the kids in camp.
post #50 of 130
I would double check all paperwork from enrollment. Any enrollment papers we have ever signed included photo consent.
post #51 of 130
It's pretty normal, relax.
post #52 of 130
It wouldn't bother me at all.
post #53 of 130
As a former teacher, I've had first-hand experience with a parent who refused to allow her child to be photographed. She made no allowances.Not even for class projects that were to be sent home as gifts for the parents. No pics. Period. She even refused to allow an aerial group photograph of our entire student body to be used in the yearbook because her son was in it. He was one little face in a sea of over 600 more children. No names were being used. We had to have the entire student body congregate again to have the picture retaken without her child in it. In whole-school activities such as field day and walk-a-thons, someone had to carefully proof all of the photos before putting them in the yearbook to make sure her child wasn't in the background of any of them. She was so paranoid about it, we often wondered if she had actually stolen the child and was worried that his real parents or the police would see his pic and take him back.

I completely understand and respect any parent's wishes that their child's photo not be used on the internet or for advertising purposes, but to be uncomfortable with your child being photographed at all (and not for religious reasons) is just beyond me.
post #54 of 130
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She was so paranoid about it, we often wondered if she had actually stolen the child and was worried that his real parents or the police would see his pic and take him back.
More likely running from an abusive ex.
post #55 of 130
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More likely running from an abusive ex.
That was my guess also. When I worked at a summer camp, we were not allowed to take photos of any of the children in fostercare, since a number of them were taken from abusive situations.
post #56 of 130
My ds' summer camp had some sort of blurb in their privacy policy.
post #57 of 130
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post #58 of 130
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Originally Posted by LionTigerBear View Post
More likely running from an abusive ex.
That was my first thought as well. Been there.

When I was a reporter, our newspaper's rule was that we depended on the school or other organization to have permission from parents to use children's pictures and names. They would let us know if a certain child was not permitted to be in a photo. For public situations, we had to verify with a parent or guardian.

Taking photos of people under 18 is not illegal, at least not in anywhere I've worked in journalism. Taking photos of large-scale events would be impossible if that were the law.
post #59 of 130
Legally they can't use anything without consent.

I would look over your copy of the forms and see if maybe you signed something by accident though (I really think its important to have a copy of those forms in hand before appraoching the teacher) and if there was nothing there and they try to use the pictures for anything you can say, forms in hand, I did not consent to this and it is not legal for you to use these photos without my permission.

If there is no mention of it on the forms, than I think that is really foolish, and to be honest I don't know if that's the kind of people I'd want caring for my kids if they can't even cover something as basic as a photo waiver when they know they are going to be taking pictures. Thats just me though. In the end, the photo issue in itself is not a big deal, for me.
post #60 of 130
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Originally Posted by SilverWillow View Post
depends on the people involved and what exactly is going on... stalking is illegal. there are some laws that protect people's rights to privacy and to not have to live in fear. it's not just a free-for-all. there is a REASON most daycares and preschools have consent forms; parents have valid concerns regarding the use of their children's images. I was always respected when I requested no photos to be taken of DD, even for school-only use.

Actually, in a stalking situation, it is usually the case of a restraining order being broken. If you are close enough to your victim to take their picture, you are most likely close enough to be violating a restraining order. Again, the picture taking isn't the illegal part.

As far as consent forms in schools, this is only for commercial purposes. They can take pictures of your kid all they want for non-commercial purposes. Opt-out forms are to keep the customer(parents) happy in situations where they don't want their kids photographed at all, but are not legally required. If it's a public school, the state probably has regulations about it, but that is the same as a mall owner having rules about photographing on their property. Most photographers/organizations have people sign release forms at the beginning just to make it easy if later they decide that the awesome picture of your kid would look great on an ad.

For photographing on private property, that is at the discretion of the owner. The school could have a policy to photograph everyone that comes in every day if they wanted. The customer(parent) could choose to not agree with this and find a different camp/school/daycare/etc. to send their kid to.

I deal with this every day. Most of my work is street photography and you would be surprised by how many business get twitchy and send out security people to bug me if I happen to be shooting near their building.

There is so much mis-information about photographer's rights out there. If you have any doubt, just look at a tabloid. 99% of those pictures are taken within the law. If someone desired so, your, or your kid's, picture could be taken in that exact same situation and you would have no legal recourse.
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