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post #61 of 130
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Originally Posted by SilverWillow View Post
One time the organization running a workshop DD (then age 4) attended allowed a local paper to come take pictures of all the kids without my knowledge or consent. They published a close-up shot of her along with her first and last name as well as the location of the building the workshop was being held, on the FRONT PAGE of our local paper. That's how I found out she was photographed. I was furious.

People make stupid decisions about the images they take of our children sometimes. That's why I always opt out of that sort of thing, and that's why I don't really like the idea of the people who spend time with DD thinking of her as one of "their" kids they can take pictures of for whatever they want. Those cameras probably go home with the teachers or assistants, and who knows who else has access to them in their households? It annoys me. Yes, cameras are everywhere nowadays, but schools have total unsupervised access to kids. It's not in "public" where being filmed is always a possibility that I can take into consideration.

Also, images of my daughter are special to me, as well as being images of HER. I don't like the idea of people using her image as a moneymaking tool, especially without her consent. School yearbook or specific class project destined for parents only are okay with me if they're okay with her, but I'd like a choice in the matter, thanks.
My kids have been photographed several times at library and other public events and made it into the paper. It is very exciting for them to see themselves in the paper, they feel FAMOUS, it is an exhilarating feeling! All of our family and friends have been excited to see them in the paper as well.
post #62 of 130
When I taught elementary school I took pictures of my students all the time. Sometimes the pics were for a project for/by them.... sometimes they were for MY personal use. As in- I loved my students and worked hard for them and with them everyday. We were a family of sorts after spending 7 hours a day together for 9 months. And sometimes I put a ton of effort into a project / activity and I wanted a record of my hard work. It's 10 years later and i still look back at those pictures occasionally and play "Remember when..."
post #63 of 130
When I was a teacher I took photos all the time. Every single day, in fact. I used them in all sorts of ways. Books, displays, activities, cards. It enriches the kids' experience, and I did it even though it cost me a fortune back then for processing films and printing pictures.

My ds's preschool have photos all the time too. It's a co-op, and most parents have cameras there at some point. I love it. We have files for each child, and if someone has a good pic of a child, they print it out and put it in there for the family. We then use the pics for end of year memory books.

I can't imagine being upset that my kid was photographed. Sure, I'd not want them photographed and put up in some dubious manner on the internet, but if its by a teacher who I presumably trust as I've entrusted my child to him/her, I don't understand the concern.

I might ask what the photos are for, but that's about as far as I'd worry.
post #64 of 130
This is very common practice in schools in the U.S.
post #65 of 130
I haven't read all of the posts but when I taught I took lots of pictures of my students. Many times, it was for projects that the students were going to make for their parents. I also liked to create a scrapbook for each school year to remember the students.
post #66 of 130
i can't think of a single class or activity my kids have been in that didn't involve pictures.
post #67 of 130
I think it's great that some people and their kids enjoy being in the paper. Of course my kid enjoyed it, but this group used an image of my child's face to promote their business. They made MONEY off her whether she minded or not; they didn't care to ask her or me for permission. Frankly, I don't understand the resistance here to *some* parents having an issue with stuff like this. it bothers me. so what? To me this is an issue of my kid's rights to some sort of control over the use of her image. The content of advertising images in the U.S often promote social norms I (or DD) disagrees with-- white privilege, male privilege, gender stereotypes, heterosexism, the list goes on. It's part of my parenting philosophy to respect her physical self, and I guess photographic representations of her, in MY humble, personal, and rightful opinion as her parent, fall under the same idea. maybe that's not how most people think, but most people think people who EBF, cosleep, CD, homebirth etc are crazy too. *shrug*
post #68 of 130
I am a highschool teacher in a large highschool.

There is a huge list of 200+ students at our school whose parents do not want photo's of their children taken, full stop. You are not alone.

Whenever I take photos of students I have to check the list before printing or publishing them. This is for a whole set of legal, safety and privacy reasons. Just because most people are ignorant of the legalities of taking pictures of children in classrooms doesn't mean that laws don't exist. They do.

I would speak to the teacher and just request that no photos are taken of your child. It doesn't matter why you don't want the photo's taken, or really even what the photos are for, you have the right to say No thankyou.
post #69 of 130
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Originally Posted by Belia View Post
When I taught elementary school I took pictures of my students all the time. Sometimes the pics were for a project for/by them.... sometimes they were for MY personal use. As in- I loved my students and worked hard for them and with them everyday. We were a family of sorts after spending 7 hours a day together for 9 months. And sometimes I put a ton of effort into a project / activity and I wanted a record of my hard work. It's 10 years later and i still look back at those pictures occasionally and play "Remember when..."
DD's kindy teacher took individual pics of the kids with the school's camera, which stayed AT the school, for the purpose of making personalized holiday projects for the kids' families. That was ok with me. I would be very uncomfortable with any teacher of DD's, male or female, though, specifically taking a photo of just her, for his/her own personal use at home. I wouldn't see any need for it. Why wouldn't those special memories be attached to whatever the memory is of: that trip to the apple orchard or the school's fall festival or whatever? I wouldn't want DD's teacher just taking a pic of her face for no other reason than she fact that he or she wanted one to keep at home. I wouldn't allow it.
post #70 of 130
Every teacher dd has had for the last 3 years has done. I never thought a thing about it actually. I get some cute snap shots sent home at the end of the year out of it She is in public school by the way. I fully expect the same will happen for ds.
post #71 of 130
I'm pretty sure it's normal but if you don't feel comfortable then you should tell them. You should not be required to allow them to share photos of your children.
post #72 of 130
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Originally Posted by Jessie123 View Post
Normal or not, they can NOT take pics of your child with out your permission. I am aphotographer by trade, and it is illegal to take a photograph of a person under 18 (for ANY reason) without the written consent of the parent. You have every right to be bothered, so be sure to talk to them.
nak

not a photog but I was thinking this as well. perhaps yours had a form missing, or it was an oversight in the main form.

i would have been pissed as we also opt out of photo stuff. at our local ymca i was taking pix of my daughter & her dad and actually had to delete them because some other kids got in and no waiver had been signed (ooops! I should have asked).

i also had to sign a waiver for my daughter's pre-school.

i agree that you should mention it, no need to make a big deal, and if your daughter goes next year perhaps note on the main waiver your photo prefs (ok it w/you ahead of time, do not use for ads).
post #73 of 130
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Originally Posted by SilverWillow View Post
I think it's great that some people and their kids enjoy being in the paper. Of course my kid enjoyed it, but this group used an image of my child's face to promote their business. They made MONEY off her whether she minded or not; they didn't care to ask her or me for permission. Frankly, I don't understand the resistance here to *some* parents having an issue with stuff like this. it bothers me. so what? To me this is an issue of my kid's rights to some sort of control over the use of her image. The content of advertising images in the U.S often promote social norms I (or DD) disagrees with-- white privilege, male privilege, gender stereotypes, heterosexism, the list goes on. It's part of my parenting philosophy to respect her physical self, and I guess photographic representations of her, in MY humble, personal, and rightful opinion as her parent, fall under the same idea. maybe that's not how most people think, but most people think people who EBF, cosleep, CD, homebirth etc are crazy too. *shrug*
Of course you have every right to feel this way, but you need to inform the school if you expect them to follow your wishes. It is very normal for schools to do this.

Our family are vegetarian, so when I sent DS to school, I informed the school and wrote it on his forms. If I hadn't informed them that DS was vegetarian, and they fed him the hot dogs instead of the tofu dogs, then that would have been my fault. Since I did inform them, they asked me to get him tofu dogs for that day.
post #74 of 130
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Originally Posted by eepster View Post
Of course you have every right to feel this way, but you need to inform the school if you expect them to follow your wishes. It is very normal for schools to do this.

Our family are vegetarian, so when I sent DS to school, I informed the school and wrote it on his forms. If I hadn't informed them that DS was vegetarian, and they fed him the hot dogs instead of the tofu dogs, then that would have been my fault. Since I did inform them, they asked me to get him tofu dogs for that day.
it may be common to *take* pictures, but to use them for advertising purposes without written permission is most definitely not. and technically many schools DO require permission even for the taking of the photos. seriously, using your kids in an ad without asking you, normal? that's illegal.
post #75 of 130
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Originally Posted by SilverWillow View Post
it may be common to *take* pictures, but to use them for advertising purposes without written permission is most definitely not.
I read your previous post and I personally would not consider printing a picture of my child on the front page of the local newspaper as advertising.
post #76 of 130
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
IME pictures are normal in the classroom. It's likely that somewhere you already signed a waiver in fact.

-Angela
I agree. In DD's daycare, there was a form giving consent to have their pics taken. We get little ornaments at Christmas time, Mother's/Father's Day cards, etc and they all have her pics on them. Her cubby has a pic of her on it, etc. They love taking pics and sending them home and I really enjoy it.
post #77 of 130
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Originally Posted by Shaina View Post
sounds pretty normal i know in my classroom we take photos all the time but ask the parents before using them in a newsletter or on the website usually the pictures are just for the school and to email to the parents
That's pretty standard around here. The preschool that my kids have gone to does take pictures of the kids, but it's usually for art projects or for posting in the classroom. The pictures that are not used in art projects that go home are given to us at the end of the term.

In the public school district, the teachers do take photos of the students, but they're generally for classroom or yearbook use only... and the candids used in the yearbooks are never labeled with the student's name. On very rare occasions, teachers will ask to use photos of students involved in a classroom activity, or a sample of their work, for other purposes, but they always ask first.

The school district has a separate consent form for posting pictures or school work on the website, in newsletters, or for promotional materials used for fundraising (for the affiliated education foundation).

edited to add... I do allow the school to use my children's work, but do not consent to their images being used for fundraising.
post #78 of 130
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
IME pictures are normal in the classroom. It's likely that somewhere you already signed a waiver in fact.

-Angela
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When dd was three, she attended The Goddard School. At the bottom of one of their enrollment forms was a small blurb about photography with two boxes to check: one giving permission for them to take photos for classroom use only and the other giving permission for them to take and use photos for advertising for the school. I chose the former, but remember talking to parents who checked the latter hoping to see their child's face on a school brochure.
post #79 of 130
I seriously do not get why people get so worked up about this. Sorry. I always figure--my REAL, LIVE child is in public all the time. She is not going around veiled like Michael Jackson's kids. If someone wants to fixate on her, they can fixate on the time they saw her at the grocery store.

I don't understand the attachment to one's child's image. Anybody could be taking pictures of them anytime you are out of the house. What are you going to do, tackle anyone you see with a camera at any event?

At DD's preschool one or two of the parents refused to give permission and now they can only take pictures of the kids' hands, feet, back of their heads, etc. I just think this is odd.

All this said, I would not want her picture used in advertising without my permission, but that's really different, IMO.

ETA: At the school she will attend next year we were required to sign a form stating that the school can take pictures. There was no way to opt out.
post #80 of 130
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If someone wants to fixate on her, they can fixate on the time they saw her at the grocery store.
That's the way I think too. With the exception of unique situations (hiding from an abusive ex, witness protection, etc) I opt for pictures being taking of children at school - I think it's done to provide parents with a glimpse of what their children are doing when they're not there. I wish I could be a fly on the wall watching them anyways, so I'm grateful that the teachers take the time to capture some of what they are doing.

If I didn't trust the teachers at DC's school, for any reason, my children simply wouldn't be in that program.
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