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post #1 of 36
Thread Starter 
hi, i'm hoping to get some insight on filing an exemption with chicago public schools. we are new to this, and our doctor says cps doesn't grant them easily at all. dd is 3, unvaxxed, never been to daycare.. so we have zero experience. anyone have words of wisdom for me??

tia, warmly, molly
mom to hazel mae 7-12-06 and violet bea 3-18-09
post #2 of 36
Not sure what your dr. is talking about- CPS has NOTHING to do with it.

I don't know off the top of my head if Illinois has a philo or not, but I know they have a religious and I haven't heard of it being difficult at all. And it's not like they okay or don't okay it- you just do it.

-Angela
post #3 of 36
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Originally Posted by alegna View Post
Not sure what your dr. is talking about- CPS has NOTHING to do with it.

-Angela
CPS = Chicago Public Schools so they do have to do with her situation.
post #4 of 36
Yeah, they technically CAN deny a religious excemption.
That's why say as little as possible...vax is against your religion, period, do not elaborate!! If they think your belifs are not "sincere" they will deny. It happens.
post #5 of 36
That makes more sense....

-Angela
post #6 of 36
IL has religious exemptions. Submit a letter to the school. Shouldn't be a problem. Your doc is trying to scare you.
post #7 of 36
here is the laws for IL: http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/sta.../illinois.aspx

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Parents or legal guardians who object to health examinations or any part thereof, or to immunizations, on religious grounds shall not be required to submit their children or wards to the examinations or immunizations to which they so object if such parents or legal guardians present to the appropriate local school authority a signed statement of objection, detailing the grounds for the objection
post #8 of 36
Be sure to google Department of Public Health Illinois, vaccinations, religious exemption. The Illinois Dept. of Public Health issued a memo to schools telling them how to evaluate the sufficiency of claims of religious exemption from vaccines. The law has recently changed, I think, because among other things, you have to detail every single vaccine you object to. I followed the statute and this memo and sailed through school registration without anyone batting an eye or saying one word other than, "okay."
post #9 of 36
I already have a religious exemption for preschool. Does this mean I must write a new one for K detailing my objections to each and every vaccine?

Has the law actually changed, or is it only the Dept. of Public Health memo on exemptions that's new?

Are they pushing schools to deny the religious exemptions? Or to examine them more closely?
post #10 of 36
They cannot legally ask you about your religious views. ALL YOU SAY is "the practice of vaccination is agains my religious beliefs." DO NOT ELABORATE. No matter what they say, you don't have to and, if you do, you give them reason to decline it. Say it over and over and over if need be.
post #11 of 36
Illinois law says only that a parent need "parents or legal guardians present to the appropriate local school authority a signed statement of objection, detailing the grounds for the objection".

Sample Religious Exemption Letter(change the state law reference):


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To whom it may concern;



(We / I) {First and Last name(s)}, as the {(parent (s) / guardian(s)} of ______________________(name of newborn child) are exercising (our/my) rights under the US Constitution, PUBLIC HEALTH LAW, ARTICLE 21. CONTROL OF ACUTE COMMUNICABLE DISEASES,TITLE VI. POLIOMYELITIS AND OTHER DISEASES, NY CLS Pub Health § 2164 (2002), to receive Religious Exemption from Vaccination, ALL injections, prophylaxis, & testing due to our genuine and sincere religious beliefs which are contrary to the practices herein required.

The U.S. Supreme Court held in Frazee V. Illinois Dept. of Security, 489 U.S. 829, that a religious belief is subject to protection even though no religious group espouses such beliefs or the fact that the religious group to which the individual professes to belong may not advocate or require such belief. This ruling is also reflected in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as amended Nov. 1, 1980; Part 1605.1-Guidelines on Discrimination Because of Religion.



Sincerely,

Your signature.
Date


Section 695.30 Exceptions

a) The provisions of this Act shall not apply if:

1) The parent or guardian of the child objects thereto on the grounds that the administration of immunizing agents conflicts with his or her religious tenets or practices, or

2) A physician licensed to practice medicine in all its branches states in writing that the physical condition of the child is such that the administration of one or more of the required immunizing agents is medically contraindicated.

b) If a religious objection is made, a written and signed statement from the parent or legal guardian detailing such objections must be presented to the child care facility or local school authority. The religious objection statement shall be considered valid if:

1) The parent or guardian of a child entering a child care facility objects to the immunization(s) on the grounds that they conflict with the tenets and practices of a recognized church or religious organization of which the parent is an adherent or member; or

2) The objection by the parent or guardian of a child entering school (including programs under the kindergarten level) sets forth the specific religious belief which conflicts with the immunization(s). The religious objection may be personal and need not be directed by the tenets of an established religious organization.

c) It is not the intent of this Part that any child whose parents comply with the intent of this Act should be excluded from a child care facility or school. A child or student shall be considered to be in compliance with the law if there is evidence of the intent to comply. Such evidence may be a signed statement from the physician that he has begun, or will begin, the necessary immunization procedures, or the parent's or guardian's written consent for the child's participation in a school or other community immunization program.
post #12 of 36
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Originally Posted by rmzbm View Post
They cannot legally ask you about your religious views. ALL YOU SAY is "the practice of vaccination is agains my religious beliefs." DO NOT ELABORATE. No matter what they say, you don't have to and, if you do, you give them reason to decline it. Say it over and over and over if need be.
Wish this were true, but Illinois DOES require a person to "elaborate", unfortunately.

http://www.isbe.state.il.us/spec-ed/...exemptions.pdf

I am currently trying to figure out how to do this myself without having to outline a false Christian belief. I'm currently studying Buddhist texts since it's the religion that most closely matches my philosophical beliefs.
post #13 of 36
Thread Starter 
hi, OP here. thanks for the replies and information. oh, how i wish illinois had a philosophical exemption. i'm very leery of claiming religious grounds since that's not accurate. i don't want to lie, i don't want to make it harder for those who are sincere, i don't want to get called on it and be exposed for a liar.. i'm so angry that i'm not truly allowed to make medical decisions for my children without becoming outcasts. i don't want to homeschool. i want regular old public school. i want my children to be included in this fundamental part of childhood and society. sorry, venting. anyway, i have some time before dd1 goes to preschool next fall, so i have some thinking to do. thanks again for the insights- molly (and hazel and violet)
post #14 of 36
Just saw this thread. We're in Chicago too. Here's a link that'll help you:

http://www.vaccineawareness.org/Illi...Exemptions.htm

They've got links on that page for how to write a religious exemption letter in IL, samples of personal religious beliefs, and the kicker: Illinois Dept of Public Health memos on what is and is not acceptable on a religious exemption form.

The less specific you get, the better. You'll be just fine.

Jen
post #15 of 36
Mayer Eisenstein, MD, MPH - homefirst practice t/o Chicago area. He advocates for home births, most of his pedi patients are NOT vaccinated, he's written a few books on vaccines, exemptions (with examples on how to do it specific to Illinois) and he has webinars on the topic ALL the time. Get on his email mailing list and also check out his website: http://www.homefirst.com/ He also has a facebook page.

I have his vax book - short, sweet, to the point and great to give to those relaatives who want proof from an "MD" re: the risks/dangers of vaccines.

Best...

K
post #16 of 36
Yes, Mayer Eisenstein has been a wonderful advocate for natural birth and non-vaxing for 30 years. He is also a lawyer. And he is in Illinois.
post #17 of 36
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Originally Posted by suga'lamb View Post
i'm very leery of claiming religious grounds since that's not accurate. i don't want to lie,

It's not a lie! I belong to the Church of Fyrestorm and we sincerely believe that the practice of administering immunizing agents is against the laws of the Church of Fyrestorm since our bodies were created in perfection.

The end!
post #18 of 36
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Originally Posted by Fyrestorm View Post
It's not a lie! I belong to the Church of Fyrestorm and we sincerely believe that the practice of administering immunizing agents is against the laws of the Church of Fyrestorm since our bodies were created in perfection.

The end!
What she said. Our family's belief is that our health is our religion, and that's no more nor less sincere than any organized religion I know of.

And amen, Sister Fyrestorm, lol!
post #19 of 36
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Originally Posted by suga'lamb View Post
i'm very leery of claiming religious grounds since that's not accurate. i don't want to lie, i don't want to make it harder for those who are sincere, i don't want to get called on it and be exposed for a liar..
The way I look at it is this... it doesn't matter what is specifically written in any bible. The fact is, once I did my research, I believe that vaccines will harm my child. There is no god that I am aware of that wants parents harming their children. And my god is no exception to that rule.
post #20 of 36

confused by IL vacc exemption law

Can anyone clarify exactly what is needed in an IL religious exemption letter?

Please, please give examples. The Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition website is out of date. It does not include the latest memo to school districts from the state health department.

I read the new memo from the state health department, and it says

"A religious objection must
set forth the specific religious belief which forbids the specific
examination, immunization or other medical intervention."


Does this mean I must detail my religious objection to MMR, Hib, Polio, Varicella, DTaP and Hep B individually?

I object to injecting impure substances into my child's perfect and pure body, created by God. Must I state the specific substance (monkey kidney cells and chicken egg cells and mercury and formaldehyde and aluminum, for starters) and then give my religious objection to it for each vaccine?

If I must do this, the letter is going to be pretty long, am I correct?

Where do I find out what substances exactly are in each vaccine??

Also, I object to TB tests, which inject toxins into my child's body. Must I include this in a vaccine letter? Or do I have to write a separate letter for TB?

Thanks very much for help, any and all of you. I have two weeks to pull this together, and my anxiety level rises each day. The schools in our district are getting more strict, as is the state. I think the Swine Flu scare is making them all crazy!!
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