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5 yo DD's bedtime resistance/constant middle-of-the night visits

post #1 of 7
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Over the past two months, our DD5 has been testing the limits of bedtime and sleep.

She is a highly spirited, intellligent little girl, essentially an only child (she has a 17 y.o. half brother who, as he has gotten older, stays over less and less). I am a SAHM and my husband has his office at home. In other words, she nearly always has us both nearby.

She was and has been an attached child, and we smoothly transitioned her to her own room (in a crib) around age 20 months. Likewise, shortly after turning 3 she transitioned smoothly to her "big girl bed" and at the same time I weaned her from her brief bedtime nursing session, the only one remaining, again easily.

It seems that no matter if she is well rested or over-tired bedtime is a 90 minute to two-hour affair. At a certain point last year she was falling asleep on her own, or with one of us in a chair (in her room) or in her doorway or just outside.

Then something happened -- I think it was my husband having to work late at his computer to meet critical dealines and my needing to keep her distracted from him so he could get this done -- and, merely to accomplish bedtime (without the drama she relishes), I got back into her bed, doing 20-minute massages or 12 stories or whatever it took to get her to sleep. At first it was me, now, more often than not, she is clamoring for Daddy. This goes against all the "commonly accepted 'wisdom'" but she is the type of child who loves to test limits, so the less "no" or "not now" at bedtime, the better, or we'll be up till midnight.

My Dh is now lamenting our "failure" at "teaching" her to self-soothe, while I remind him that she is surely such an independent, confident and strong willed (in the best sense) child because of being attached. But she used to fall asleep more quickly and now we seem to have no time to ourselves.

Also, while it used to be maybe once every two weeks that she burst into our room and dove into her bed, it is now nearly every night, anywhere between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. . While I have no problem with her in the bed, my husband cannot fall back asleep because she constantly rolls into him. And so, we both have to walk her back to her bed (she will not "listen" to me when she is clamoring for Daddy) and then I stay with her until she is back asleep or sometimes I just end up sleeping the rest of the night there.

What kind of gentle and effective approach can we take? Rewards through praise seem to mean nothing to her (though we are always giving it to her).

I would love to have some feedback from anyone who has gone through this experience with a spirited child at this age. Thanks so much!
post #2 of 7
I would find a way for her to have a sleep space in your room. My dd is almost 5 and moved to her own room for a bit and then came back.

-Angela
post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the suggestion. I only wish that we had the space! Between our bed, bedroom furtniture and DH's office set-up along one wall of what would be a generously sized room, we just don't have the space. Friends of ours put in a loveseat, others have used a sleeping bag for just that purpose, but if she went to lie down next to DH's side of the bed (where she wants to be) he'd be afraid of stepping on her. Maybe we could manage a sleeping bag a little further away from the bed, where the only risk is bumping into an armoire (but I guess the whole idea is not to let them be so comfortable). I'll have to discuss that with DH.
post #4 of 7
We have a small bedroom and ds sleeps on the floor RIGHT next to our bed when he wakes at night. It's easier than you think to step over him. I only step on him occasionally! It's not convenient, but really, it's much better than the previous plan, which involved my having to go in his room and stay there until he fell back asleep. One day, after waking up on the hard floor yet again, I said "That's it! The person with the YOUNG bones gets to sleep on the floor if he needs to be close. I'm staying in bed."

Other thoughts for the bedtime routine: What worked well for our kids was to transition from staying with them to checking on them frequently. So, we went from staying on the floor while they fell asleep, to staying for 5-10 minutes and then setting the timer for 5 minutes, then 10, then 15, etc. Right now, we do stories, bedtime, and I check maybe once. I didn't mind staying until they were asleep when they were little, but as they got older, our presence was more of a hindrance than a help. But note that ds was 7 before this happened. And he still comes into our room at night. He needs to. Dd is 5 and is actually a much more independent sleeper.
post #5 of 7
I also have a little space for my DD (4 1/2) in our room--we moved our dressers and other furniture to the second bedroom to make room for her (kind of like having a sleeping room and an office/clothing room). I remember visiting some cousins and watching them have to get up 3 times to go to another room and comfort one kid or the other--it just made more sense to us to have DD in our room and let everyone get a full night sleep. I didn't sleep well with her in our bed once she got older, but she has a twin size that is on the floor next to our bed. We sleep extremely well like that and no one has to get out of bed.
post #6 of 7
Someone gave me this idea, and I think it would totally work if you wake up when your child gets in bed with you. Make it uncomfortable for her. Kind of roll onto her, squish her, lay your legs across her and so on, until she in uncomfortable. You don't really have to say anything to her, pretend like you're asleep, and she will decide on her own to go back to her own bed. It might take a few nights, but it works. So I've heard. My problem is that I don't wake up. So just about every morning I wake up with one or two kids in my bed.
post #7 of 7
If you want to go the uncomfortable route, I recently started telling DS when he woke me in the middle of the night that I would stay in his room with him, but that I get the bed. He has a tumbling mat on his floor so I told him he could sleep on that with a blanket for warmth. He's decided he prefers to stay in his warm bed and let me return to my room every time so far. (Note: I have not done this when he was sick.) And it seems to have discouraged the middle of the night calls as well.

As far as keeping him content in his bed until he goes to sleep, I recently added a book on cd to his bedtime routine. Now, he never gets out of bed anyway, but we were having a lot of trouble with him calling me back to his room and generally fussing. For some reason the book on cd seems to really prevent all that. When it's over or when he's done listening (sometimes before the book is over) he asks me to turn the cd player off and then he goes to sleep without any fuss. Dunno why, but it's been working for about a month now.

Catherine
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