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Too many choices = uncooperative?

post #1 of 6
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My DH and I are trying our best. We're sleep-deprived with the baby and now charting new territory with our 3 year old. Our DS has always been great at communicating his wants/needs. When he started showing preferences (maybe 2ish) I began to give him a choice between things that were options (red shirt or yellow, sandals or sneakers, peach or apple, etc.). Now that DS is 3 he's become accustomed to choosing many things. I thought that this would give him a sense of independence and control. Now, though, he will demand a choice when there isn't one or refuse to cooperate to the point of a tantrum or other outburst like spitting or hitting (ugh!). My DH thinks that we may have given him too much opportunity for choice and now he thinks he deserves it at every turn. It seems to make sense, but I'm not convinced that this wouldn't have happened if we didn't offer him choices.

Now his daycare provider (3 days a week) is telling me that he is starting to refuse to eat lunch with everyone else (asking to eat when everyone is finished), won't sit in a circle at music time, and won't clean up with everyone else. She told me she tries to give him choices when appropriate, but she wants him to understand that there are certain things that "we all must do in a group"

I almost think it is a phase and would rather not really rock the boat too much, but maybe it isn't and if it's not would I end up raising a spoiled, indulgent, selfish child??????

I'm new to gentle discipline as a theory, however, i would guess that I have been parenting like that already. I still have tons to learn.

My question, I guess, is do I continue to give him choices and how do I deal with things that are non-negotiable. Also, how do I offer his daycare provider ways to handle the behavior.
post #2 of 6
My guess is that it has little to do with choices and everything to do with having a new sibling.

Setting aside some one-on-one time might help him, and time and compassion will help most of all. Its really hard to go from an only to having a sibling. Also, seems like the worst of the acting-out to new sibling behavior occurs when the baby is 6 to 12 months... about that time, they realize the baby is here to stay.
post #3 of 6
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I guess I hadn't really thought of it being a new sibling thing since she is not so new anymore. I kind of thought we were through with the adjustment phase. But, it does make sense. DS has had quite a bit of one-on-one time with his dad, but not much with me. Even if it isn't the cause of his behavior, it is a good reminder to make that a priority.
post #4 of 6
DS does some of the stuff your DCP is describing, but for him, it's much more about the fact that he's a TERRIBLE transitioner. It can take 30 minutes in the morning to acclimate him to the idea of getting dressed. So, like with your lunch example, in my DS's case, it would be that he's needed the rest of everyone *else's* lunch time to get used to the idea that it's time to eat, and it gets better and worse in phases.

In a "bad" phase, I have to start introducing ideas WAY EARLIER than I need to implement them.

Just a thought. . .
post #5 of 6
I gave DD1 choices all the time - just like you - she never went through the "terrible 2's" but boy was 3 a whole new challenge. She flexed her independence and seemed to be constently trying to figure out her place in our world. I ended up creating a chart - and it revolved around her being respectful (which encompasses almost everything). At the beginning of the week, we would come up with rewards together - not material items! - things like an extra 30 mins at the park, library day, 15 extra mins of stories before bed - then we would decide a value to place on those things - say 5 stickers for the extra time at the park - when she displayed signs of being respectful ie good listening ears, being a helper etc, she earned stickers and could place them where she would like - the flip side is that when she was disrespectful - she had to pull off a sticker - this really worked well for her - but we had to be consistent - I think that's a staple in parenting. What to do when it's a non-negotionable - respect - I know I say it a lot - but it's so important!

Being respectful means listening to you at all times and doing as they are asked. Be kind but clear...be sympathic but consistent. I think that's where I nailed down the behavior I was seeking...I would tell DD1 to please listen to what I am saying...please help me pick up ...blagh blagh blagh...then I stopped one day and realized that's what I was sounding like to her...to many words...to much...so I thought about what I really wanted...respect...and boy does that cover everything.

DD1 turns 9 this weekend and she is a great kid...independent, thoughtful, smart...and though she gets a little sassy now and again - I still reign her back in with "Being Respectful".

Try the chart - it will also help you plan special time between the two of you and I think as for school - your efforts at home will impact his behavior at school. And always always find time to talk about his day...I love family dinners...we do "Highs and Lows" at the table..."What is your high of the day Char...the best part of your day?" "What was your low?" Boy do you learn a lot and the kids have a chance to express themselves and tell you how it happened from their perspective. Even our 1.5yo gets into it - though you can only make out every 5 words or so...she keeps going and going and going LOL...

I hope these help and good luck!
post #6 of 6
I found that with both my kids "false" choices quit working about age 3. That's when my kids became sensitive to the fakeness of the 'red cup or the blue cup' kind of choice. I don't think they're unusual. So, as soon as they realized that there was another option other than "the firetruck pajamas or the train pajamas", that technique quit working. When you ask which pajamas and they say "None! I don't want to go to bed!" it's time to switch strategies.

I have said more times than I can count, "That's nice, but it's not a choice right now."

So, I quit giving those kinds of choices as much. They might get one choice, but then really, it was one intended to keep us moving along. "It's time to go to bed. Please pick out your pajamas." "I don't want to go to bed." "It's bedtime, do you want to pick your pajamas or should I do it?" "I don't want to go to bed." "It's hard to go to bed. Do you want to pick out your pjs?" "I don't want to go to bed!" "OK, it looks like I'm picking them out tonight."

You can also give him more 'real' choices. Put his snack foods or his dishes where he can reach them. When he wants a cup, say "Ok, go choose a cup." My kids both started choosing their clothes at that age. (Just make sure the clothes they have access to are weather appropriate!) You can ask him (if you don't care): Do you want tacos or chili for supper tonight? Those are more the kinds of choices that adults make on a daily basis.

Your giving your son choices early on did not create this. It's totally developmentally appropriate. He's THREE. He will learn to follow rules some day, really. Three year olds are quite contrary.

For eating at daycare, I'd ask the daycare provider how noisy it is at the group table. My ds has a hard time eating when he's overstimulated. Otherwise, I'd just let her deal with it, as long as you're confident she'll deal with it in a good way.
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