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post #1 of 25
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I am so frustrated I'm nearly in tears. I need some advice as I haven't been able to figure out a way to make this work.

At our house, the kids are asked to help out here and there with everyday tasks such as clearing the table or feeding the cats, but we don't have any scheduled 'chores' or tasks that they always do as their own tasks...except laundry. We felt we'd been teaching them along the way in having them do developmentally-appropriate tasks related to taking care of their things like tidying up their belongings and helping with putting away their clothes as they were able. Now, they are 5 and 8 and perfectly capable of putting away their laundry without assistance. We have made it their 'job' to put away their own laundry. But this never works . Due to its nature and our lifestyle, laundry is finished ad hoc and so there isn't a scheduled time and date that laundry needs to be put away. I cannot do their laundry consistently on a certain day--I just can't. Whenever there is laundry to be put away it becomes a fight. It takes literally hours. They kids fight about it, so we ask one to go upstairs first and do hers, then the next goes up after. We've tried 'helping' by having the laundry neatly folded and even sorted into pants/shirts/socks so the task is less overwhelming. We've tried allowing them to do it in spurts...10 minutes now, 10 minutes this afternoon, 10 minutes this evening. This just means 3 times a day of arguing and fits rather than one. We've tried being creative, making it a game...but it always turns into one of those 'brilliant ideas' that backfires.
I have tried thinking through the issue of whose need this is and what the natural consequences would be if they did not put the laundry away. What it comes down to is that our home would become more chaotic, the kids would react to the chaos of digging through clothes and living in mess all the time, and it would deeply impact our family's day-to-day functioning negatively. I cannot allow them to leave their clothes in baskets. I also cannot take responsibility for putting their clothes away, for a number of reasons. First, I spend so much time collecting, sorting, washing, drying, folding and putting away for the three others in the household (myself, dp and ds) that I really truly do not have the time! Second, I believe the kids should learn to manage this task, and that it is an important part of growing and being part of a family. I believe this struggle would exist no matter what the task--I don't think it's laundry-specific. My point is that it's the one thing they are asked and expected to do as part of the family, and I do not feel comfortable with just relieving them of any ongoing responsibility altogether. I believe this task is important, and that if I just did it myself I would feel angry, resentful and that my children were disrespectful. I honestly worry that they will grow up without a sense of responsibility and that having meaningful work to do in our home gives them a sense of purpose, belonging and pride that I hope they can have. So, it's not just laundry obviously.
I just don't know what I can do to have them participate in this without it becoming a fight all the time! As I move the laundry through I have flashes of what's to come, and I feel anxious about it every day. It's out of control and I don't know what to do anymore.
I welcome your ideas, please, especially from moms of 3 or more who can understand the unique dynamics of trying to meet the needs of many while staying sane.
Right now it's at the point where we are saying it must be done, and that until it is done the children cannot do other activities, such as going out or going swimming as a family as we'd scheduled. I don't like this as it does seem punitive and the activites are very valuable such as relaxed family time together, time outdoors and what have you. But, the laundry needs to be put away and I don't know what else to do?
post #2 of 25


I have 3 kids (9, 7, and 5), and the only way this works out for us is for me to make sure I do at least one load of laundry a day (that includes some of every kid's clothes), fold it and sort it and lay it out on my bed, and set a time every afternoon that it must be put away. I find I wash, dry and fold it whenever (sometimes the kids help moving it from washer to dryer, from dryer to basket and upstairs), and then leave it folded in the basket until morning. As soon as I get up and dressed, I make my bed and sort all the clean laundry onto it. The kids put it away usually around 5 pm or so (that's how our typical routine goes, due to school, and we've kept it the same in the summer). eta Because we do this every day, it takes very little time and is not an overwhelming task. I do find that if there's just *a lot* of laundry to put away it does get overwhelming for them and they do resist.

I have found that the only way to consistently have chores done here, with 3 kids, is to make it routine. We even had checklists during the school year that they followed. And a huge part of making it work, so that I am not weeping over laundry, is to put myself on a schedule too. It's hard, but that is the only way things get done without everyone fighting and procrastinating and feeling frustrated. It does take a few weeks to get the routine going smoothly. I found it helps to get the kids involved in planning the routine. A family meeting where you can problem-solve and begin to create a schedule might help.

My kids love having a written schedule that they can check off with a wipe-off marker. They're in charge this way, I just ask "what's next on your schedule?" There are a lot of creative ideas out there for scheduling chores-at one point we had flower pots, one for each kid and a larger one. The larger one was full of "flowers" that each had a chore printed on it. Each day the kids would pick a few chores that they would be responsible for, plus there were some that had to be done by each child every day. It was fun, but in the end wasn't quite right for us. But something creative like that might work for you. Somehow, the schedule things takes a lot of the power struggle out of things like laundry for us. We've agreed on it ahead of time, the kids know it's expected, it's predictable.

post #3 of 25
I only have two, but I'm from a family of 6 kids...and my grandfather lived with us, so a total of 9 people.

Sure, it's important that kids learn to put their own laundry away. Shoot, it's important that they be able to do the laundry....But 8 and 5 are young to do that kind of task on their own.

Would you consider giving up the battle, taking their laundry stacks to their room and having putting the laundry away together be part of the nighttime routine.

As in, let's get out your pajamas, pick out tomorrow's clothes and put away the clean ones while we're at it?

Even when the folks in my family reached an age where they did laundry, we did everybody's laundry out of the hampers. Pitching in just happens when there are lots of people...doing it *together.*
post #4 of 25
I just wanted to add that personally, I've found that at times when we've gotten into a real struggle over some chore it helps to let that one thing go (do it myself) and find other things the kids can do to help out. I've found that even at ages as young as 5, there are plenty of ways they can help. Sometimes it works out much better to switch up the chores for awhile. It has worked for me to always make it clear that I need and expect help, but that I'm flexible about the ways in which the kids help.

My kids used to empty the dishwasher every morning while breakfast was cooking. At some point that turned into a big, stressful power struggle with all kinds of moaning and complaining and refusal. So we just said, okay well you can make your lunches for school yourself instead (which either dh or I had been doing while the other cooked and set table), the youngest can set the table for breakfast, and we will take care of the dishwasher. That worked out rather nicely.

I find it's not that I need them to do specific things, really, I just need the help. We all need to pitch in somehow. And the kids are capable of so much.
post #5 of 25
ITA with Magella's second post. My child isn't old enough to do chores independently (he just helps us do stuff), but I've learned that when I have an ongoing frustration with my partner failing to do a chore, the best way to manage it is to say, "I am tired of being angry about this. I will do it myself. But I need you to take on one of my responsibilities, to free up the time for me to do this." Then I have a short list of options for him to choose from, or he can suggest something else.
post #6 of 25
If it wasn't just their own laundry they were responsible for, but just did part of the big "laundry putting away task" and put away some of your, dh's, etc. laundry with you - might that work? Sometimes it's more of a drudging task if its all your stuff.
post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the ideas. I really do not think it is a developmentally inappropriate task for an 8-year-old or a 5-year-old. They are capable of performing the tasks and have done so many times. I'm not asking them to fold, or to sort or to do anything but move clothing from a basket to a closet, and they are very capable of using hangers.
I like the idea of trading chores for something else, but I cannot think of anything else they could do to trade the time. They cannot reach the cupboards to put away dishes. We load the dishwasher as we eat so it's not its own task at any particular time of day. They can't lift the vacuum to go anywhere in our very vertical house, nevermind push it around. They can't wring the cloth to dust. Laundry was the no-brainer task they could do.
I think we're going to have to implement it as a routine, as suggested. The same time, and a little bit every day instead of having it pile up for a few days. It's also not possible for us to all do it together. The dynamics of our family are such that we cannot have two adults doing laundry together with the kids. Our youngest is very busy and would more than undo our work. This is where the point about having three kids comes in. I cannot put clothes away at the same time as the older kids if my two-year-old's other parent is not here (or the two-year-old is not here). This rules out doing it with the older kids at any time other than when my partner is home, which is dinner time and then a short rest before bedtime routines. The kids also cannot reach our closets or tall chests of drawers to put away anyone's clothing but their own.
post #8 of 25
How about giving them each their own laundry basket? Their stuff gets folded and put away in there, and you can have set times during the day to check baskets and put stuff away?
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by Magella View Post
do at least one load of laundry a day
I think that's the secret. My 6 yr old can collect & sort his own laundry and I've been teaching him how to work the washer/dryer. It helps a little. He won't try to fold clothes yet. Says it's too hard. He doesn't put his clothes away neatly and as a consequence cannot find anything in his drawers .. it upsets me but I just keep reminding him how to do it "the right way." My point is maybe there are other parts of doing the laundry your kids can help with (and might even enjoy more) so you can provide more supervision during the putting away of it.
post #10 of 25
My kids are younger (5 & 3), and help with putting away their clothes. I do not have a laundry routine other than never stopping. Some days I put their stuff away cause it is easier than waiting for an appropriate moment to ask them, but I also make sure they get chances to do it each week too.

I make it easy by using very low clothes rods (maybe 3 ft off the round) in their closets for shirts and dressers and using (Ikea) bins instead of drawers for everything else - they helped pick which items go in which bins. I also leave it for them in an organized basket.

When my 3 year old does not want to help, we make it fun by playing a game re who each item of clothing belongs to... "Xs or Ys?" "Xs!!!" (so far the game still works even if the whole basket is her stuff)

When my 5 year old does not want to help with this or any other task (like getting dressed) I stay with him we break it into pieces together. Example. "First step is the socks, I'll count to 10 while you see if you can put all the socks away." He usually beats me so then I give him until 8 to put the underwear away and then until 14 to hang one shirt up... basically just randomly change it up a lot and let him succeed for a while then eventually challenge him... it takes the power struggle out a bit and will hopefully get him used to doing these tasks so he can eventually do them himself. This has been a recent breakthrough for us that requires effort on my part, but makes life much easier.

I also offer to set an alarm for a few minutes if they do not want to do something the same moment I ask. They are usually more eager to help when they have had a few minutes warning that the task is coming.
post #11 of 25
By the time I was 7 it was my job to fold and put away EVERYONE's laundry at our house. By 10 I was also washing it all. There were 4 of us. 8 and 5 is not to young to put away folded laundry. To solve the amount you're having to do and give them a lesson in taking care of their things, give them three outfits. one to wear, one to wash and a spare. if they take care of those w/o fussing for a week, they get one of their outfits back.

I've had to do this with toys my tow oldest just won't put away. They have had ALL of their lego taken away as well as blocks, k'nex and the like. It helps that we're moving this weekend and everything is packed up right now. It will make it easier to dole out the toys as they show me they take care of each toy.

My DH usually is laundry Man at my house (he should have tights and cape!). It takes up all Sunday to do it all (about 10 loads if I wasn't able to keep up with towels and kids' stuff during the week) and the boys, age 6 and 7, do have to help put it away. I hand them each stack of each item and they do it and come back. Running up and down the hall burns off a little energy that way.

Because of our move this weekend, we're a bit time crunched. So I decided to have the laundry done. I took it all to the laundromat, that was running a special ($20 for 25lbs), and went back later to pick it up. It all came folded up so nicely and much better than we bother with. It was almost as good as sex!

I doubt we will do this on a regular basis but I can see where the occasional trip when we're swamped with other tasks to accomplish this would be a great time saver. The kids still had to put their things away, but it sure was nice not having the day measured by the buzz of the washer.
post #12 of 25
I only have one, but laundry was my job from the time I was 8 or nine growing up. I use the same system my mom used - everyone has a hamper, one in each bathroom for towels. When the laundry hampers are full, the person whose clothes are in the hamper brings them to the laundry room or they wear dirty clothes to school. Whoever notices the towels are full brings them to the laundry room. We LOVE those tall plastic hampers with wheels. LOVE LOVE LOVE. I washed and folded (or hung - now I have a tension rod in the laundry room so I can hang it there, and then my husband puts his own away. My daughter can not reach her own hanging bars yet but she does put away her folded things. She's three) and put the clothes back in their laundry basket/hamper things and if you want clean clothes, you take your hamper back to your room.

I'm not a stickler about socks in the "sock drawer" or anything like that, they just have to be put away or there's no place for the dirties to go. The plastic ones with the handles are great because there's never any excuse not to take everything in one trip.

We have a pretty clear system with pretty clear consequences (although obviously, with the three year old I just remind her - time to go get your laundry, and she walks her down to the laundry room while I carry a load of towels or something) and I think that helps. Like I said, I have only one but it's the system that worked when we were growing up.

When oh when will architects learn that the laundry room needs to be WITH THE BEDROOMS and not clear on the other side of the house or on another floor? I'd far rather carry a handfull of tea towels to my bedroom laundry area than drag every other speck of dirty clothes down to the laundry room and back again. It makes no sense.
post #13 of 25
I was also doing the whole family's laundry (washing, schlepping, folding, sorting) by myself by 8. Totally not developmentally inappropriate.

Do they have closets or drawers? If so, you might want to consider releasing the task to them. Like, your clothes have to be out of sight, but I don't care where they are in your closet (whether they're hung up neatly or crammed on the floor) or in your drawers (sorted or just jumbled). Don't try to get them to do it a certain way - if this is THEIR chore, then they get to do it THEIR way, no matter how many times they come down with two different socks on because they couldn't find the matches or with wrinkled shirts. HOWEVER, complaints about how they can't find anything, don't have any clothes, etc should be fielded with "hmm... you might want to try sorting your clothes next time, so they're easier to find - do you want me to help you organize things now?" in a really offhanded tone. Not snarky, just matter-of-fact.

If their clothes were on exposed shelves in a shared room, then absolutely. Things must be organized. But if they have closets and drawers that they can close, I would say stop fighting about the logistics for a while and just let them "organize" (or not organize) the way they want. You're getting what you want - their clothes are out of sight - and they're getting what they want at the time - minimal effort.

If they never learn to hate the clutter, then hey. At least you know they're not superficial.
post #14 of 25
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Originally Posted by NiteNicole View Post

When oh when will architects learn that the laundry room needs to be WITH THE BEDROOMS and not clear on the other side of the house or on another floor? I'd far rather carry a handfull of tea towels to my bedroom laundry area than drag every other speck of dirty clothes down to the laundry room and back again. It makes no sense.
Thanks for all the great tips!! It's been really helpful.


We are moving in two months into a house with the laundry room on the second floor :. It's what made us choose a new construction home, and was our only requirement of said home! It will make such a big difference for me. Right now it's so hard to do laundry because it's across the house, down one flight of stairs, across the house, down another flight of stairs, across the house through the basement door and back across the house again. With a toddler, it's just such slow going. It will take so much less time with the laundry room *right there*!:
post #15 of 25
I had this "battle" with my younger son once. I stayed calm and told him that I would be happy to do it for him, but that I charged $1 for the service each time. He did it himself, and he never argued about it again.
post #16 of 25
We don't focus on the laundry being put away, but once a week all drawers, closets, and under the beds have to be organized (we just say by Saturday, but we have cards to know when it's done). It tends to cut down on the shoving things here and there. I'll put laundry on the bed, The Kid is responsible for putting it away.
post #17 of 25
At 5 and 8, I completely agree that they are capable of putting away their own laundry. My 3 and 5 year olds put away their own laundry too, including hanging it up. (We also have closet rods at their level). They also put away lots of everyone else's laundry, but I don't demand it.

I can think of several things here...

1. It's too overwhelming. How much laundry do you do a day? When I do many loads at once the sheer volume of clothes to put away intimidates them, so I do one or two loads a day and keep it simple. The kids are not allowed, as another poster said, to put things "wherever" so long as they are out of sight. That only leads to more chaos in the morning looking for things.

2. Sometimes, when they just aren't in the mood, I make it a game. "Nurse A, please take these clothes to the sick patient in the left room." "Mr C, we've got a new shipment of meat in. Please put these "sausages" (socks) in the "freezer bin" (drawer)." "Ms A and Mr C, the store will be opening in 10 minutes. We need to hang these shirts on the racks before the store opens!"

3. The natural consequence to me for not putting away laundry is not GETTING laundry, therefore no clothes to wear. I would have them pick out two outfits (one if you do laundry every night) and then I'd put away the rest until they are ready to help. At 5 and 8, they will quickly become self conscious with having only one or two outfits. IMHO, I'd make it ONE outfit because then they wouldn't have to put away a single thing. Wash it at bedtime and they can come pull it out of the dryer themselves in the morning. Seems harsh, perhaps, but not doing laundry = not having clothes to wear. And you don't have to make it a battle or a fight. Just tell them what will be happening. When they are ready to help, they can ask for their clothes back.

4. I wouldn't switch up the task for another one. My mother only allowed this for us once we mastered the first task. Otherwise you are teaching them that they don't need to make an effort because if they put up enough of a fuss, Mom will step in and take over and give them something "more fun" to do. And as we all know, a new job for a kid is fun for a time, and then quickly becomes tedious. Kids build character when they stay committed and work through the tedious stuff too...not just dropping it and moving on to something more exciting.

5. I also like mamaduck's idea of charging them for you to do the task. But with my kids, they still don't know the value of money so it would be pointless. They'd be too excited to pay me because it would mean they could play with their money!

I hope it works out for you. I'm glad you're getting a new home with a better laundry arrangement! The first sounds awful.
post #18 of 25
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post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for such thoughtful and helpful replies and advice. I should have come to you sooner .
I have some new ideas to try when I thought there was nothing more I could do . I'll be sure to update in a little while.
post #20 of 25
I have three children and laundry was taking up too much of my time. So this is what we started doing to reduce the amount I was washing each week:

Each child has 7 pairs of underwear and 7 pairs of socks

Each child has 5 shirts

Each child has 3 pairs of shorts and 2 pairs of pants

Each child has one sweatshirt/sweater

Each child has two pairs of PJs

Each child has one swimsuit

Each child has one "church" type outfit for special events

My older DD has one leotard for tumbling

Each person has one bath towel that needs to last all week.

My infant has 7 bodysuits and will transition to the system at one year.

Each child wears the clothing until it is clearly dirty - if the clothes still look okay, they are put back - NOT thrown into the hamper (this does not apply to panties and socks, clearly.) Americans have an obsession with being clean that is extremely wasteful - they think that if you wear a shirt for a few hours it must be washed before you can wear it again. Most of the rest of the world wears clothing until it appears dirty or smells unclean.

What I found was that when I knew my kids didn't have a huge reserve of clothing to wear, I was doing laundry more often. The loads, thus, were smaller and more manageable. There is nothing worse than letting laundry pile up for a week or more, then having to do multiple loads and then having to put away four or five basket fulls of laundry.

Since we don't have a dryer, this is especially important because it is reduced the amount of clothing I have out on the line at any one time.

Here in America, everyone thinks that their kids need to have a huge wardrobe with tons of outfits, plus a fresh bath towel every day. In my house, clothing serves only as a way to keep your body warm and conform to the norms of society, and towels can be hung-up and reused many days in a row.
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