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caught between care providers and feeling uncomfortable.

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So, I started care with hospital-based midwives who I really like and respect, but we switched to a HB midwife because of the hospital's no-waterbirth policy, the overzealous peds. teams who too often take babies away from their mamas and too often prescribe prophylactic antibiotics, and the unrestful mama-baby unit. Plus, I felt like the end of my first pregnancy with them was more managed than I wanted, I narrowly avoided a pit. induction, felt like I had to bust a move to get labor going instead of just letting things happen, and I really want to have a more mellow, low-stress, spontaneous start to labor and birth if it's possible. Is that too much to ask?

I felt like I should let the hospital midwives know my new plans. I am about 25 weeks along now. They have been generally supportive but have already recommended that I come in for an AFI check at 41 weeks because of my "advanced maternal age" - I am 35, or just barely 36 if baby comes after 39 weeks - and they have offered shadow care as an option. I had borderline low amniotic fluid with the first pregnancy at my 41 weeks postdate check, which precipitated this pressure for baby to evacuate the premises sooner rather than later. As far as I know, I am NOT high risk - no GD, no high blood pressure, not overweight, not under a lot of stress, singleton pregnancy, non-smoker, etc.. The ONLY 'risk factor' I have is that I am 35 years old.

So GAAH! I was trying to be an honest, above-board patient with them, let them know what's going on, but I just DO. NOT. WANT. to repeat the way my last labor went down. Not that it was bad - I had a lovely, unmedicated hospital birth and the midwife was wonderful and hands-off, but now I feel like I am sort of caught in their net. I am "on the radar" and if I DO obey and go in for a 41 week check and the AFI should be <8, my HB midwife will be remiss if she doesn't transfer care, and if I DON'T go in, I am being irresponsible as 'geriatric mothers' are more likely to have problems with placental insufficiency, and if anything were to happen that could have been prevented by an earlier delivery in a medicalized setting...

I don't want to offend them, I don't want to jeopardize my working relationship with them (either in terms of working at that hospital as a doula or if I had to transfer for maternal exhaustion during the birth), but I also don't want the end of my pregnancy meddled with by the medical establishment - it's what I am trying to get away from...

Sage advice, anyone? Aside from drink about a gallon of water in the few hours preceding the AFI check if I do go in for it...

I know they are just concerned and trying to do best-practice medicine, but I just don't feel like my body is my own, like this is a "you really need to do this for the health of your baby", rather than an offer of "if you want to do this, it is available." It makes me feel like I don't REALLY have a choice, and like it's not something that they offer with the "talk with your HB midwife about whether it's something you want to do."
post #2 of 7
Tell the hospital, "Thanks, I'll consider all my options with my HBMW, I appreciate you being supportive." And then don't call them again. Do some work with your HBMWs on fear release and positive visualization for the next 14 weeks. Take care of your body with plenty of fluids and salt and rest and nutrition. Let your HBMW decide if she wants you to do an AFI or whatever for her comfort.

If you switched to an OB in another hospital, but still wanted to stay connected with the first hospital in case of an emergency, would you let hospital #1 bully you into tests? No, you would trust your new OB. It's the same thing. You have a new care provider. SHE is who will decide if you want to get x or y test done. your "backup" is there to do what YOU want.
post #3 of 7
I agree about not contacting the hospital MWs, just go with the one you want and don't worry about 'pleasing' anyone but yourself.
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It's sorta tricky though because I see them when I attend births as a doula, and the last time I was there, one of them patted my arm and said, "Haven't seen you around in awhile..." She totally knew I hadn't made a July appt. This IS the hospital where I would transfer if it became necessary, so I don't want to have things untidy if that became necessary. AND I live in a state where direct-entry midwives aren't legally recognized care providers, so I don't wish to get my HB midwife in any kind of legal trouble. AND there was a very bad outcome with another homebirther in our area recently that has gotten the hospital-based midwives a bit more on the alert for trouble than they would be otherwise (at least this is my supposition based on some comments they have made recently)...

Y'all are totally right about not pleasing anybody except myself, but I also don't want to burn any bridges...
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Y'all are totally right about not pleasing anybody except myself, but I also don't want to burn any bridges...
I know the feeling. When I fired my OB (by not making any more appt's) I felt that way a little bit, but then I realized that in a true emergency I'd get the luck of the draw when I went to the hospital anyways. What are the odds of that happening? Well my MW has only like a 5% transfer rate, so the odds are much better for everything turning out ok.
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Y'all are totally right about not pleasing anybody except myself, but I also don't want to burn any bridges...
You're not burning bridges by not going in for a test that your PRIMARY pre-natal care provider does not recommend. Your original post made it sound like they are mostly supportive and willing to provide back-up care. That means that they do what your HBMW wants you to do that is outside of her scope. So you're all set.

Write up a transfer birth plan and make an appointment to go over it with them. Perhaps have your HBMW with you at that appointment in case of any misunderstandings. And ask your HBMW what her experience and recommendations are. She's your primary care provider, now, so you don't need to worry about these other people.
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update

I am such a neurotic stresser. I emailed my HBMW and she said it's not a big deal, that she had a client she just sent in for an NST with one of the OBs at the hospital and that it was a 'wonderful experience' for this lady. She also said, Yeah, I'd recommend a NST/BPP if you go postdates, probably more like 41.5 or 42 weeks than right at 41 (which would be Thanksgiving Day anyway), and she pointed out that it's a nice thing for me and her that the hospital-based midwives are obviously willing to accomodate these requests.

I just don't want my HBMW to get in trouble, and I don't want to be on a strict timeclock for when I have to deliver this baby. She isn't a legally recognized care provider in this state, but I should also recognize that she's been practicing over 10 years and is obviously able to take care of herself.
Ultimately, all of them just want to make sure that healthy mother, healthy baby is the outcome of all pregnancies, and really, I should be counting my blessings that the hospital-based midwives are being supportive because it gives me the best of both worlds, right?
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